Darj Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 I got a couple of questions related with DM rule #4: When a player loses its DM (except special cases like Stardust Dragon), it instantly loses the duel, or because of those special cases the DM mechanic instead "checks" the location of the DM at each End Phase, and if it is not in the DM Zone or field then the player loses the duel? If the latter is correct, then it means that before the turn the player lost its DM ends, it can resort to cards such as, for instance, "The Transmigration Prophecy" to return its DM from the graveyrad to the DM Zone and save itself from losing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjad Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Quick question: Why is Fortune Tune banned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Quick question: Why is Fortune Tune banned? I assume abilities transferring to a wall monster is bad? IDK. If you ban this, Zenmaines should be banned IMO. =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Another question, if you perform an Xyz Summon with your Deck Master so that that Xyz monster becomes your deck master, are you allowed to summon another copy of said xyz monster since only the first one is your deck master? or are you not allowed to summon a second copy? This also applies to fusions and synchroes etc. etc. Just trying to clear up some air here, as it would determine how I would build my deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 I got a couple of questions related with DM rule #4: When a player loses its DM (except special cases like Stardust Dragon), it instantly loses the duel, or because of those special cases the DM mechanic instead "checks" the location of the DM at each End Phase, and if it is not in the DM Zone or field then the player loses the duel? If the latter is correct, then it means that before the turn the player lost its DM ends, it can resort to cards such as, for instance, "The Transmigration Prophecy" to return its DM from the graveyrad to the DM Zone and save itself from losing? Only monsters that allow themselves to return to the field from anywhere can safely touch that place and not lose. Any other case is game over. It is also not limited to the End Phase. If the card can return to the field during the next standby phase, it is allowed. Quick question: Why is Fortune Tune banned? The custom banlist came from a different tournament where Fortune was... decidedly more dangerous than normal. I'll take it out, really. Another question, if you perform an Xyz Summon with your Deck Master so that that Xyz monster becomes your deck master, are you allowed to summon another copy of said xyz monster since only the first one is your deck master? or are you not allowed to summon a second copy? This also applies to fusions and synchroes etc. etc. Just trying to clear up some air here, as it would determine how I would build my deck. Common sense dictates that summoning a second copy of the Xyz/Synchro/Fusion is fine. Why wouldn't it be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Trying to make an effective deck is going to be difficult, hopefully I can work something out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Trying to make an effective deck is going to be difficult, hopefully I can work something out. You did see we changed your DM's ability, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Thanks for the heads-up, it didn't notify me, that would have been awkward if i had built it without knowing you changed it. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 After much debate, I will enter in this. DN: kanokarob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjad Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Only monsters that allow themselves to return to the field from anywhere can safely touch that place and not lose. Any other case is game over. It is also not limited to the End Phase. If the card can return to the field during the next standby phase, it is allowed. The custom banlist came from a different tournament where Fortune was... decidedly more dangerous than normal. I'll take it out, really. Common sense dictates that summoning a second copy of the Xyz/Synchro/Fusion is fine. Why wouldn't it be? In regards to this: Say my Deck Master is Wind-Up Soldier, and I banish it with the effect of Wind-Up Rabbit, would I lose? Furthermore, if my opponent takes control of Wind-Up Soldier, and banishes it using their own Wind-Up Rabbit, would I lose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 In regards to this: Say my Deck Master is Wind-Up Soldier, and I banish it with the effect of Wind-Up Rabbit, would I lose? Furthermore, if my opponent takes control of Wind-Up Soldier, and banishes it using their own Wind-Up Rabbit, would I lose? No to the first, I'd assume based on the fact this is an adaption of what I did in the past. In that case yes, if it's sticking to the basis. I'd wait for their final judgment, but act on what I said in testing and all until proven otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateIRS Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 What happens if you take control of your opponent's Deck Master, bring out your own Deck Master, and use them to summon something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyalist Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 I'll join. DN name is Chrisl123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 What happens if you take control of your opponent's Deck Master, bring out your own Deck Master, and use them to summon something? 5. You do not lose if your opponent gains control of your Deck Master, unless it is used as an Xyz material, returned to the Deck, destroyed, sent to the Graveyard, or banished in any way while under their control. It's on the front page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Can I use Xyz encore on an Xyz monster summoned using a Deck Master? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted January 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 The Xyz monster is now the DM, so the previous DM being used as the material is then treated as the original card and NOT as the DM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 The Xyz monster is now the DM, so the previous DM being used as the material is then treated as the original card and NOT as the DM Wouldn't that mean that Xyz Encore is auto-win if the DM is used as an Xyz material? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Wouldn't that mean that Xyz Encore is auto-win if the DM is used as an Xyz material? No, if I'm reading the rules correctly, you can't activate Xyz Encore and target their Xyz Deck Master because then they would control 2+ Deck Master monsters at the end of it. Of course, I'm assuming that the two summoned Monsters would become Deck Masters due to being forced summoned by the card that removed the Deck Master, so this could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted January 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 In the case of Xyz Encore, the Xyz DM would return to the Deck Master Zone instead of the Extra Deck; then the remaining effect of Encore will resolve as normal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Also, do we have a set time that the tournament will begin, or are we still waiting on participants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Also, do we have a set time that the tournament will begin, or are we still waiting on participants? The latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 For any of you who wishes to test your Deck Master decks, you can play me on DN as BlindMonkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I think I'll have to withdraw. My interest in this has subsided pretty quickly due to real life issues. Sorry guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Okay, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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