Blake Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set. Must first be Special Summoned (from your hand) by banishing 1 "Bujin" monster from your Graveyard, except "Bujin Hirume". After this card has been Special Summoned this way, if this card you control is destroyed by your opponent's card (either by battle or by card effect) and sent to the Graveyard: You can discard 1 card, then your opponent discards 1 card. You can only control 1 "Bujin Hirume". So, post-PRIO, Bujin are actually astoundingly powerful. Why? You have a searchable 2K you can drop for no cost that does literally everything the deck wants it to and then some. She singlehandedly allows you to spit out Xyz in the deck like you couldn't before, giving it a lot of power and speed it needed. If Arasuda, etc. improved the deck, Hirume alone improves it almsot as much as they did all on her own by being just what the doctor ordered. Why they made this for Bujin of all things, I do not know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Bujin Waifu. Second best BW Bujin, and an amazing card overall. Then again, I don't think this is enough to turn Bujin into the best deck of any format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 That pose just says "Bitch, I'm fabulous." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 It doesn't solve the deck's most crippling problem though - their reliance on Yamato. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 [quote name="幻魔の王" post="6337350" timestamp="1389999799"]It doesn't solve the deck's most crippling problem though - their reliance on Yamato.[/quote] It kinda does: you can spit out Susanowo at basically any time, and he then searches your Yamato, problem solved. Set a lance and you're good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 It doesn't solve the deck's most crippling problem though - their reliance on Yamato. I win over half my Devpro games without actually ever using Yamato. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 It doesn't solve the deck's most crippling problem though - their reliance on Yamato.Really? Because after this comes out, the best Beast-Warrior is Susan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 I win over half my Devpro games without actually ever using Yamato. Over half the people on DevPro are terrible, that alone cannot be taken as proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Over half the people on DevPro are terrible, that alone cannot be taken as proof.Yet you cannot deny that this adds an element of speed to Bujin that they did not have. It makes the Extra Deck bosses become incredibly accessible threats at any point that isn't turn 1 and let's face it, setting up for Susan for little to no investment is going to make your opponent seriously hurt.Also Amaterasu does now exist so yet more reasons as to why Yamato is not as heavily relied upon as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 [quote name="幻魔の王" post="6337364" timestamp="1390001938"] Over half the people on DevPro are terrible, that alone cannot be taken as proof.[/quote] >.> Unless you're implying that the slow-grind Yamato.dek is better than Bujin turbo (which it's not), then your statement means very little. And by making this point, you're undermining your own initial argument. So why bother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Bm96ftTvL0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 >.>Unless you're implying that the slow-grind Yamato.dek is better than Bujin turbo (which it's not), then your statement means very little. And by making this point, you're undermining your own initial argument. So why bother? Because I don't like Bujin on any level and hate Konami's sick obssession with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Because I don't like Bujin on any level and hate Konami's sick obssession with them. This. This on soooo many levels. Konami already got rid of anti-player interaction, so why are they reintroducing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 This. This on soooo many levels. Konami already got rid of anti-player interaction, so why are they reintroducing it? How is this anti-player interaction? It's responses to actions. Not like Exodia that just solitaires or Soul Drain that's just "You can't even do that". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 How is this anti-player interaction? It's responses to actions. Not like Exodia that just solitaires or Soul Drain that's just "You can't even do that". I think the words he was looking for was "mind games" cause that's what Bujins is. Mind Games every turn, and thinking about your moves. The problem is that they have so much lockdown that it doesn't make playing against them very fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 I think the words he was looking for was "mind games" cause that's what Bujins is. Mind Games every turn, and thinking about your moves. The problem is that they have so much lockdown that it doesn't make playing against them very fun This. Thing is, its pointless to even try, because you /know/ it'll just be negated, or just fizzle. or in the case of Crane, killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 I like Bujins for not taking five-minute turns. This card changes that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 This. Thing is, its pointless to even try, because you /know/ it'll just be negated, or just fizzle. or in the case of Crane, killed. the funny part is, if you play a solitare deck with it's own win condition that doesn't require battle, the deck doesn't do much agaisnt it. so, anyone want to do some burn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Bujins don't even lock the opponent. People are just butthurt that Bujins have a good playstyle. Well, I know how I will reconfigure my Bujin Deck now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 *Looks at the above post* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHGaKdVStXM *Composes self* Ah heh heh, no. Bujin DO NOT have a good playstyle. The deck is quite literally stall without blatantly explaining it is. And now with Hirume just SSing herself at the cost of making Bujincarnation live, they just get to wreck face with their unfair medley of support cards that frankly shouldn't exist... well, to be fair, I would be fine if only Crane didn't exist, as it by all accounts hurt your opponent the most by making Yamato unkillable for every copy you possess, and since you're allowed three, well, good luck on that one champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Tbh, I liked the concept at first... then Konami kept deciding to make it more and more powerful until it was tier 1, then they keep pushing it further into cementing it's position, at least until they decide to come out with the next moneycard series and only then nerf the Bujin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Bujins don't even lock the opponent. People are just butthurt that Bujins have a good playstyle. Well, I know how I will reconfigure my Bujin Deck now. I'm pretty sure Kaiser and Emptiness lock the opponent. They aren't Bujins, if you want to get technical, but still. They USED to have good play style. Then they announced about 2-3 guys that the deck really doesn't need. It really is becoming a Stall.dek of sorts. And I fully intend to play it. But Yamato doubled in price right as I went to buy it. Slightly OT, but could you guys seen Yamato getting hit to one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Ummm... From my admittedly limited understanding of the deck, once Hirume is a thing, the deck stops being outright stall and becomes Swing with Sussano until dead, it literally only needs a couple of turns to win thanks to the speed she gives. Since as Koko said, Sussano is live from turn two onwards? Plus I don't think the deck even wants to, or has room to main Vanity or Kaiser anymore. Basically Hirume and Arasuda revolutionized the deck from sit on Yamato and grind, to make Sussano and play the game faster and harder. It's also tonnes better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Ummm... From my admittedly limited understanding of the deck, once Hirume is a thing, the deck stops being outright stall and becomes Swing with Sussano until dead, it literally only needs a couple of turns to win thanks to the speed she gives. Since as Koko said, Sussano is live from turn two onwards? Plus I don't think the deck even wants to, or has room to main Vanity or Kaiser anymore. Basically Hirume and Arasuda revolutionized the deck from sit on Yamato and grind, to make Sussano and play the game faster and harder. It's also tonnes better. I did overlook that aspect. Fair enough. But I swear they could easily get away with running a Vanity's or a Kaiser and still not get hurt. Play it, sit on Yamato for one turn. Summon this, go into Sussano. You can still sit on Kaiser and dominate. Not really stall, but force the opponent to not do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 I did overlook that aspect. Fair enough. But I swear they could easily get away with running a Vanity's or a Kaiser and still not get hurt. Play it, sit on Yamato for one turn. Summon this, go into Sussano. You can still sit on Kaiser and dominate. Not really stall, but force the opponent to not do anything. Do you even know how the deck runs now?! You could maybe get away with Emptiness, but certainly not Kaiser cuz you're spamming the crap out of your field with like 3 Bujintei each turn. Emptiness only as an Oppression-style card once your field is full of Bujinteu, and that is win moar and unnecessary. Kaiser counteracts the crap outta the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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