rydersilver Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Hey, so im making a deck and its pretty much going to revolve around a core of monsters that operate in the same way as dragon rulers, (banishing two of their type, maybe wyrm type, or of their attribute to summon themselves from hand or grave) BUT theyre going to be level 1. Im thinking of releasing a bit of spell/trap support with a focus on strong to broken rank 1s exclusive for them. Does anybody have any advice on how to make this archetype more fun, more original, more creative, or any other advice? (And please dont just say something like "more fun/creative: dont make em"). Ie. different from the original archetype? Thanks! every comment is appreciated PS This is literally for my own entertainment, Not even going to post this on YCM. Brokenness doesnt matter here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 operate in the same way as dragon rulers waiii WAAAIIIIIIIIIII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Hopefully you know how why YCM doesn't like Rulers; especially when they get their searchers banned, and they're still a pain to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 YES. YES. DO THIS. HAHAHA. YES. YES. YES. ...what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rydersilver Posted May 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Haha i know why yugioh in general doesnt like them. I played them the very first day they came out on ygopro, and everyone said they would suck. Well i didnt lose with them lol. But i mean who cares if YCM doesnt like them. Im not going to not make them haha, dunno if i will post it here though But does anybody have any suggestions for giving them different discard effects, or a different theme for that part, or xyz suggestions or spell/trap support ideas? I have a few but i want to expand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 everyone said they would suck. who said that. no one said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 But does anybody have any suggestionsHere's one: Just don't do it.Let me put it this way...Monster that are, seemingly immortal and can appear out of thin air on the fly, for virtually no real effort at all, and always give you a large field presence. K? You think that's "fine"?If so, then keep these in mind:Original Rulers lost their smaller forms.Original Rulers lost copies of themselves.Original Rulers lost copies of their draw engine(s).Original Rulers lost their non-specific RotA.Original Rulers lost a lot of stuff.And don't say "It's because they were Level 7", because Konami didn't once touch Big Eye OR Draco.So if you really do insist on trying to make this a thing, then at least take into account the idiocy of what the actual Dragon Rulers are, and what became of them, and use that to influence your overall concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rydersilver Posted May 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 who said that. no one said that. In my experience a lot of randoms said they wouldnt do much and didnt pose a threat, a while before their release Here's one: Just don't do it. Let me put it this way... Monster that are, seemingly immortal and can appear out of thin air on the fly, for virtually no real effort at all, and always give you a large field presence. K? You think that's "fine"? If so, then keep these in mind: Original Rulers lost their smaller forms. Original Rulers lost copies of themselves. Original Rulers lost copies of their draw engine(s). Original Rulers lost their non-specific RotA. Original Rulers lost a lot of stuff. And don't say "It's because they were Level 7", because Konami didn't once touch Big Eye OR Draco. So if you really do insist on trying to make this a thing, then at least take into account the idiocy of what the actual Dragon Rulers are, and what became of them, and use that to influence your overall concept. Lol. I literally said not to post if you were going to say "dont do it". Literally word for word. I know why they were banned. I just explained that i know them very very in depth. And i know that they are broken. And i know they are overpowered at whatever number. No need to tell me like im a child. I already explained that. But you should take into consideration that 1. Im not Konami. My decision on whether i make these for myself and my friends will not affect you, or any other competitive player. 2. Im making these for myself 3. Im fully, no probably more aware than you of their capabilities as they were my main and im not an idiot. 4. All im asking is for advice on themes/ ways on how to make them different than their original copies, for my own fun and entertainment. Hell im not even posting this on YCM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rydersilver Posted May 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Also, being level 7 makes a huge difference as compared to level 1. The main way dragon rulers stole advantage from the opponent was easy recurring beaters that would demolish the opponents side of the field, mainly through attacking, but of course was combined with the powerful rank 7s they had at their disposal. Having level 1 stats would take away one of their greatest strengths, and then their next greatest. Level 1s trying to impose the same strategy as dragon rulers would completely fail. And just because dragon rulers gave huge field presence doesnt mean level 1 monsters will. Furthermore, youre wrong that konami didnt touch draco or big eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 In my experience a lot of randoms said they wouldnt do much and didnt pose a threat, a while before their release There's a difference between "on paper" and "in practice". Also don't forget that it took a little while before the babies entered the scene to give them crazy awesome consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rydersilver Posted May 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 There's a difference between "on paper" and "in practice". Also don't forget that it took a little while before the babies entered the scene to give them crazy awesome consistency. I know. It also happened when i dueled with them.. until i dueled them. And yeah, babies were so good my memory has repressed itself. But they were amazing even without that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rydersilver Posted May 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 meow bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rydersilver Posted July 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 i said meow bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 no go away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rydersilver Posted July 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 What....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rydersilver Posted November 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 bumppppp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 The fact that we're not going to see what becomes of this and that you're in this for the lulz more or less had us decide that, no, this probably won't be worth our time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Gadjiltron is right. Even if this is Misc, the point of it really died out and more or less will turn into a spamhole. Best if this gets locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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