Greiga Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 I wanted to do some throwback thursday thing with TCG section but I'm bored so I'm posting this early. Lv 1 FIRE Pyro/EffectOnce per turn: You can pay 500 Life Points; add 1 "Volcanic Shell" from your Deck to your hand. This card must be in the Graveyard toactivate and to resolve this effect. 100/0 Plusses off Egrystal from the deck and goes even from the handFIRE for Nova Master in Doll HEROs because we're ignoring ED crampingNS with Falcon for Clausolas and run over/negate any threats and/or stall if you for some reason need toThe copy it adds to the hand can be discarded for PWWB/Divine Wrath/whatever discards for cost nowadays because you're not getting Shaddolls effect from those. You can then add this back.Probably the best FIRE I can think of that doesn't require you to run and dump Fists or Lavals or something.Idk you can use this with Blaster if you really wanna do that with only 4 fires, (idk about Dragon Rulers and how many of their element you run)Idk Hope Roots Discuss Are there any better FIREs for Dolls that I don't know because I've been gone for too long. Also ITT Shell is a Shaddoll apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Dom- Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 I think it is the best FIRE for Shadolls, but... Doll HEROs? is that a thing JUST cos of Shadow Mist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted May 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 I think it is the best FIRE for Shadolls, but... Doll HEROs? is that a thing JUST cos of Shadow Mist? I started Doll HEROs because of Shadow Mist and it was terrible but with Egrystal (and assuming we get a WATER fusion) and Mask Change Second it definitely becomes possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 The fact that this thread is about Shadolls makes me suck to my stomach. Yu-Gi-Oh!, what have you done to yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted May 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 The fact that this thread is about Shadolls makes me suck to my stomach. Yu-Gi-Oh!, what have you done to yourself? You know I only posted his role in Dolls as an intro and you're allowed to talk about other uses right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 This has always been an amazing card. It's like a more balanced Sinister Serpent, that also thins your deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 It seems fun but bad. If you wanna make Grystal, you have Roots. It's already mediocre to main lights JUST to abuse with Fusion, so maining this can only be worse. It has to be something that's a decent standalone in addition to a usable Attribute. Like, depending on the EARTH fusion we get, Mathematician could be decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted May 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 It seems fun but bad. If you wanna make Grystal, you have Roots. It's already mediocre to main lights JUST to abuse with Fusion, so maining this can only be worse. It has to be something that's a decent standalone in addition to a usable Attribute. Like, depending on the EARTH fusion we get, Mathematician could be decent.Hello, I'm the fun duelist. I know about Roots because it saved my life a few times, but I'm bad and running HEROs so I'm looking for ways to make the HERO engine not completely terrible. This card is one of those ways.tl;dr not running pure What else are you suggesting for standalone FIRE, or do none come to mind? (I really don't think we'll get EARTH in NECH unless they really wanna cram all 4 attributes into one pack and that feels like too much support too fast for an archetype that's this good with only a few cards.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Well we're def getting at LEAST 2 fusions given pack space. No stand alone fires look good, imo. The closest thing is Horus Lv. 6. There's also that level 4 FIRE tuner Kite and Flamvell Guard but 4 and 1 both seem like bad tuner levels for Shadolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted May 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Well we're def getting at LEAST 2 fusions given pack space. No stand alone fires look good, imo. The closest thing is Horus Lv. 6. There's also that level 4 FIRE tuner Kite and Flamvell Guard but 4 and 1 both seem like bad tuner levels for Shadolls. Yeah pack space and common sense says we're getting at least 2 fusions but I'm assuming it'll be FIRE and WATER, since they did LIGHT and DARK and that's the next most popular attribute pair. Guerillakite has to go field>grave so it'll waste a Normal Summon. I'm not looking at Guard unless someone forces Dolls into Rulers but that's a different deck and makes this conversation irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Well unless we get a new Synchro in the Anime, the pack space has Egrystal ??? ??? Yazi So, we're likely to get 3 Shadoll Fusions. Probably a boss (See: Gem-Knight Master Diamond retrain) and the last attribute in then next set. We might even get /4/. This is provided the slot before Egrystal isn't used on Des Toy Scissor Bear, and Bear is, instead, in Raging Masters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted May 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 The dates on the wiki say Raging Masters is almost a month ahead of NECH so Scissor Bear will probably be in NECH unless they put its materials in Raging Masters. 3 is really awkward, but if I had to guess I would say FIRE, WATER, WIND to not scare people away from using Entermates or something. I'm assuming Super Poly gets sided or mained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 The dates on the wiki say Raging Masters is almost a month ahead of NECH so Scissor Bear will probably be in NECH unless they put its materials in Raging Masters. 3 is really awkward, but if I had to guess I would say FIRE, WATER, WIND to not scare people away from using Entermates or something. I'm assuming Super Poly gets sided or mained. NECH is July and Raging is August. At that, Raging is a pack aimed at anime fans, based mostly in Arc-V. It's logical to assume scissor bear in RM. Why would they worry about scaring people from Entermates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted May 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 NECH is July and Raging is August. At that, Raging is a pack aimed at anime fans, based mostly in Arc-V. It's logical to assume scissor bear in RM. Why would they worry about scaring people from Entermates? I'm being silly and assuming EM will be on the map... waaaay in its own corner over there. Tfw the searcher is a promo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 This > Sinister Serpent ycm pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 Loved it back in the day. Combined with Pot of Avarice and Brionac, I could make a single copy into a 5 card bounce. I miss the aspect of the game in which dead hand could serve a legit use as discard fodder if it's intended use was not proper for the situation. This card is actually somewhat tricky. Some decks can use it well, but in many of the ones I've tried this on, have eventually found better alternatives than discard fodder for bad pluses. Like how in Gadgets it can turn a Polymerization into a Blaze Fenix as a +0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Are there any better FIREs for Dolls that I don't know because I've been gone for too long. How about? Inari Fire: Shaddolls are Spellcasters so it can Special Summon itself from the hand, it has a sort of insurance against effect destruction, and Level 4 allows Rank 4 plays along Lizard/Dragon. Fire Hand/Fencing Fire Ferret: Also Level 4 for Rank 4s and by themselves they destroy monsters. In addition, when Shaddolls get the WATER Fusion, you could go as far as splashing the Fire-Ice Hand engine. However, I have no idea if that would actually work well, because you would be milling Hand targets for the Fusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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