Two 12-Year-Old Girls Stabbed Their Friend 19 Times, Saying Internet Meme “Slender Man” Told Them To

[VictorSempra]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/two-12-year-old-girls-stabbed-their-friend-19-times-saying-i?bffbnews

 

 

I have no words for this.

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

I have no words for that either.

These are pre-teen girls too; this is something I'd expect out of someone around my age or something.

 

Both of them are definitely getting charged for pre-mediated murder, since article mentioned this wasn't something that came out of the blue.

[Agro]

on wisconsin!

[Elijah~]

No words.

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

Already said it in the status. This is utterly insane. This kind of thing happens kinda often yet it's still surprising how crazy people can be.

And oh yeah it was Wisconsin... Not my area of Wisconsin but still.

[Lunar Origins]

Yes.

 

The word spreads.

 

He is coming.

[Agro]

Oh, yeah, this is like a county over from where I live.

 

All we ever got here was a homeschooled kid dressed as a ninja attacking some high schoolers in the woods with a machete.

[Tentacruel]

64 years in prison?  What?  Even at 12, people should face consequences for their actions, but 64 years for ATTEMPTED MURDER?   12 YEAR OLDS?

 

Anyway, this doesn't sound like something a psychopath would do, but I'm not a psychologist so I really don't know. 

 

If I ever have kids, I am going to monitor the shit out of their online interactions.  (Within reason.)

[D.A._Sakuyamon]

I'm going to me and say. Okay, 2 kids nearly killed another. Whatever, moving on. Stuff like this is something I don't care about.

[VictorSempra]

64 years in prison?  What?  Even at 12, people should face consequences for their actions, but 64 years for ATTEMPTED MURDER?   12 YEAR OLDS?

 

Anyway, this doesn't sound like something a psychopath would do, but I'm not a psychologist so I really don't know. 

 

If I ever have kids, I am going to monitor the s*** out of their online interactions.  (Within reason.)

Pre-meditated attempted murder against a minor.

Yeah, that's a MASSIVE offense. And how is this NOT what a psychopath would do? "Slenderman told us to kill her"

I'm going to me and say. Okay, 2 kids nearly killed another. Whatever, moving on. Stuff like this is something I don't care about.

Then don't bother commenting.

[Tentacruel]

Pre-meditated attempted murder against a minor.

Yeah, that's a MASSIVE offense. And how is this NOT what a psychopath would do? "Slenderman told us to kill her"

The attackers were also minors though.

 

It never really thought of psychopathy as "The voices tell me to hurt people."  Mentally ill possibly, but not psychopaths. 

[Agro]

No, but seriously, we need to stop immediately jumping to "they must be psychopaths" every time a white person murders someone.

[VictorSempra]

No, but seriously, we need to stop immediately jumping to "they must be psychopaths" every time a white person murders someone.

Okay. Let me jsut go repeatedly stab someone because "A fictional character told me." Oh, and you can't call me a psychopath.

[D.A._Sakuyamon]

Pre-meditated attempted murder against a minor.

Yeah, that's a MASSIVE offense. And how is this NOT what a psychopath would do? "Slenderman told us to kill her"

Then don't bother commenting.

 

The thing here is that killing even kids killing other kids is not a new thing. Perhaps it's not as prevalent in America as it is in other countries but that's irrelevant. Which is a reason why I give no shits about stuff like this.

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

Oh, yeah, this is like a county over from where I live.

 

All we ever got here was a homeschooled kid dressed as a ninja attacking some high schoolers in the woods with a machete.

I remember my school had a kid hold his class hostage before killing himself... I remember walking past the closed door to the classroom on the way out of school. *shudders*

 

 

I'm going to me and say. Okay, 2 kids nearly killed another. Whatever, moving on. Stuff like this is something I don't care about.

 

Then don't bother commenting.

Anyway. It seems pretty clear there is something wrong with these kids heads. But, it was premeditated. 64 may be excessive but it sounds like they're not going to "get better" so to speak so maybe it's for the best. Of course, they should get some help in the meantime but if it doesn't help and they're just let out to do it again...

[VictorSempra]

The thing here is that killing even kids killing other kids is not a new thing. Perhaps it's not as prevalent in America as it is in other countries but that's irrelevant. Which is a reason why I give no shits about stuff like this.

Then don't Comment.

[Tentacruel]

Is it clear though?  Not every person who murders someone is mentally ill.  They are 12 after all.  Are all children that have imaginary friends or let a game get to their heads psychopaths?  

 

They might be mentally ill, but we can't just slap that label on because they killed someone and blamed an internet meme.  

[VictorSempra]

Is it clear though?  Not every person who murders someone is mentally ill.  They are 12 after all.  Are all children that have imaginary friends or let a game get to their heads psychopaths?  

 

They might be mentally ill, but we can't just slap that label on because they killed someone and blamed an internet meme.  

How many twelve years old do YOU know plan pre-meditated murder because a fictional character told them to?

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

Is it clear though?  Not every person who murders someone is mentally ill.  They are 12 after all.  Are all children that have imaginary friends or let a game get to their heads psychopaths?  

 

They might be mentally ill, but we can't just slap that label on because they killed someone and blamed an internet meme.  

Actually yes I think every person who murders someone, not including self-defense and accidents and such, are in some way mentally ill. You'd have to have something wrong with your head to be able to kill another person like that.

However I do not believe being mentally ill is an excuse unless it's massively ill, like to extreme levels.

People walk around with minor mental illness all the time without murdering, or trying to.

[Tentacruel]

Mental illness implies that a person, in some way, cannot help it.  

 

This is where legislation comes dangerously close to moral views and a person's worldview.  You may not believe in free-will, I do.

 

But, if you want to look at this from an entirely secular standpoint, people are animals.  Animals kill. 

[Super Chaos Sonic]

And this is what happens when we leave 12 year olds with Creepypasta....on that note...why were they even reading that stuff?

 

Honestly this is just becoming the whole "Violent video games make our young people killers". When in all actuality...none of this stuff like this is what causes the young people of this generation to go to drastic measures. Quite the contrary. They are taking something harmless and deciding to use it as the main reason. Its almost like most people saying "The devil made me do it".

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

Mental illness implies that a person, in some way, cannot help it.  

 

This is where legislation comes dangerously close to moral views and a person's worldview.  You may not believe in free-will, I do.

 

But, if you want to look at this from an entirely secular standpoint, people are animals.  Animals kill. 

I never said anything about free-will and I don't know why you brought it up. No one who is mentally sound would choose freely to kill someone for no real reason. Maybe they couldn't entirely help thinking it but that doesn't necessarily mean they couldn't stop it if they tried, and it doesn't mean they aren't dangerous.

Remember, prisons aren't merely there to punish but to protect others from dangerous people.

[Ren✧]

Alright, let me just start by saying that this is truly a horrible occurrence. And Alphamon, I don't know where you are from but this should be a big deal no matter if it is a common occurrence or not. It is terrible to just say 'humans killing humans isn't new, so it isn't worth my time'. People died and the impact that has should always be considered worthy of at least your sympathy. 

 

On to the discussion about whether or not these children are psychopaths or not. I just did a brief search on what defines a psychopath: 1) a person suffering from chronic mental disorder with abnormal or violent social behavior. 2) an unstable and aggressive person.

 

Now without knowing whether or not these two children suffer from an actual, qualitative mental disorder, I do not know and thus can't make an accurate guess at whether they fall into the first definition, they definitely fit into the second. That being said, I think what the difference between the arguments here is what you personal view as a psychopath.

 

Cygnus, it sounds like you are trying to say that these children fit into the second definition, while Tentacruel seems to be allying more with the first. 

 

These children, in my opinion, should not be given special treatment because 1) they are young 2) they might be mentally ill. With the information provided in that article, which is more than likely severely lacking any real evidence or information. Who cares if they are mentally ill? It doesn't me they get to go off with attempted murder and then get to go to cushy rooms and therapy appointments. Lock their asses up and throw away the key. 

[D.A._Sakuyamon]

Alright, let me just start by saying that this is truly a horrible occurrence. And Alphamon, I don't know where you are from but this should be a big deal no matter if it is a common occurrence or not. It is terrible to just say 'humans killing humans isn't new, so it isn't worth my time'. People died and the impact that has should always be considered worthy of at least your sympathy. 

 

On to the discussion about whether or not these children are psychopaths or not. I just did a brief search on what defines a psychopath: 1) a person suffering from chronic mental disorder with abnormal or violent social behavior. 2) an unstable and aggressive person.

 

Now without knowing whether or not these two children suffer from an actual, qualitative mental disorder, I do not know and thus can't make an accurate guess at whether they fall into the first definition, they definitely fit into the second. That being said, I think what the difference between the arguments here is what you personal view as a psychopath.

 

Cygnus, it sounds like you are trying to say that these children fit into the second definition, while Tentacruel seems to be allying more with the first. 

 

These children, in my opinion, should not be given special treatment because 1) they are young 2) they might be mentally ill. With the information provided in that article, which is more than likely severely lacking any real evidence or information. Who cares if they are mentally ill? It doesn't me they get to go off with attempted murder and then get to go to cushy rooms and therapy appointments. Lock their asses up and throw away the key. 

I live in America actually and I'll say this. Why should I feel sympathy for one persons death when there are 1000s of people dieing everyday? I would need to feel sympathy for all of those people otherwise I'd just be singling people out. What then?

 

I can understand why one would do so but I'm not that kinda person. Just how it is. -shrugs-

[Shradow]

No one who is mentally sound would choose freely to kill someone for no real reason.

 

Well that's outright untrue. I know I'm of sound mind, but I could just one day feel like killing someone. Also, and this may not be the best analogy but I can only use this one because I've never seen a real murderer over a long period of time, but I've seen plenty of fictional characters who kill lots of people and not thought they were crazy, just that they enjoyed killing.

 

And as with anything, you don't need a reason to enjoy something, you just do. Doesn't make you insane or anything. Now, these kids actually had a reason, and it sounds like they were clear of mind and knew exactly what they were doing.

 

Also, I agree with Alphamon, a little. This is a terrible thing, but I didn't know the person, and tons of people die everday, so I figure you shouldn't worry about it too much.