Steelswarm Sentinel + General DT Lore Thread

[Blake]

 
Basic backstory
 
Sentinel came into contact with a Vylon relic of some kind, which made him evolve into Roach.
 
Roach fought alongside Gem-Knight Pearl and the others against Vylon Disigma to save the world from the genocidal Vylon
 
He also managed to live through Sophia's reset of the Zielgigas storyline where he was first created, and he was in the fight with Sombres and Kerykeion against Sophia, though not on the front lines.
 
After this, he went to Naturia Sacred Tree, which Leo guards, and received the blessing of the new god(s).
 
He travelled the DT world, trying to make sure everything was okay with the world.
 
Now, think about this.
 
He's a roach. He's impossible to kill, as roaches go.
 
Recently, we learned that the DT World is a program, likely a Video Game. We should've known earlier because of Terminal World, but that is neither here nor there. To follow this, turns out that Sophia's a programming language.
 
Now, this explains why it cycled over and over, and it never got cancelled and reset until the Evilswarm appeared; They were a computer virus that kept cropping up. The Steelswarm were also a virus, but not to the same degree as the Verz/Veruz. The Veruz was out of control, so the world reset itself in order to see if they could work out the bugs from the start. It could not.
 
However, there was an anomally in a later iteration. The Roach/Zielgigas cycle. Roach absorbed the power of the unknown "Vylon" artifact, likely meant to go to a Constellar from an older cycle; Particularly one based on Musca, an older constellation that is a Fly/Bee. See Exciton. Remember, its old name was Verzbuth/Belzebuth.
 
Now, think about this; Roach is a sacred relic, likely the MAIN character of the Constellar's relic, "purified" computer virus that was destroying the world. Makign it turn good and fight back against the other viruses around, including Disigma, who was infected by the Lswarm virus.
 
The relic could also be a bit of data illegally accessed early for some reason unknown to us.
 
He became more humanoid thanks to this, looking closer to the Constellars than he did before, but not completely. His skin was a tainted gold as opposed to white and silver with a gold emblem. Upon receiving the blessing of the gods Kerykeion and Sombres, he even gained a human mouth and his bottom seems more human than before along with looking more like a constellar, even beyond Sombres' blessing, lending credence to the fact that the data in him was still trying to correct itself into that old Constellar.
 
Roach truly believes he's a main character/hero, but doesn't belong in the light, as seen in Sacred Serpent's Wake... at least before he was evolved one further. He started as a virus that simply restricted the leaders and powerful beings of the world, but then he grew into something that could outright stop them as Roach. But with the power of Sombres and Kerykeion flowing through him, he gained the power to simply stop EVERYTHING. But, Exciton's effect and name both show that he didn't want to; He loved the world, he wanted to tend to it and be with it, but the virus inside of him destroyed everything around him, albeit slowly in the story. He's likely responsible for Diamond collapsing into Cairngorgon in the long run, having corrupted him when they fought together, along with similar events happening. Such as the Evilswarm, which may never have happened before Roach happened. Still not by choice, but his influence by being near him.
 
Exciton thinks he's the Hero... but he's the main problem in the program. The one that cannot be fixed, cannot be deleted. It's evolved beyond the program... But it's not malicious itself. Even so, its presenceis likely what causes the whole issue with the world. Shaddolls are likely glitches that come thanks to this, as well.

Also, an Exciton is something that basically becomes a
 
Now, since I've ranted so much about Roach I'll be brief about Sombres/Kery, but it seems that they are the program evolving beyond Sophia, gaining some artificial intelligence. Roach likely falls into this too, but they are especially so, actually absorbing her powers in the long run and trying to make a more peaceful world. But this was only able to happen because Roach screwed the program to hell and back.
 
So, the Qliphoth likely only have 1 major goal; Remove Roach from the system and reboot once more.
 
Lots of other stuff to go over, but this rant is enough for now.
 
Thanks to Koko, Kano, and others for helping this come to be.

[Greiga]

[spoiler=early parts]Summary from wiki for the earlier parts.

 

-Tribes are fighting forever but none of them can overpower the other

-Worms appear

-Brionac is unleashed and Uruquizas steps forth in order to combat the invaders

-The X-Sabers and Mist Valley also join in the fight

-AoJ are created

-Genex appear around the same time

-Naturia are forced into the fight and send out Leo

-Ally Mind is installed into the AoJ in order to increase their processing power

-Ao use Enemy Catcher decides to capture the worms and study them

-Mist Valley disagree with this "capturing the enemy" and separate themselves

-The Fableds awaken and help fight the Worms

-The Jurracs, who didn't care, fight back when the Fableds strike

-Genex self-improvement reaches the limit, they lack the same power but their combat ability is much higher

-Gungnir is released

-The Mist Valley, who has been fighting alone, gain much needed help from the Dragunity

-Worm Zero vs Decisive Armor

-The Fabled strike the weakened world

-The Genex and the Allys agree to combine their power

-The Jurracs, who have taken the Fabled attack the hardest, form a meteor and crash the Fabled homeland

-Neo Flamvell Origin appears where the meteor landed

-The souls of the dead form the Ancient Flamvell Deity and burn the Fabled homeland

-Trishula is unleashed and freezes the planet.

 

World reset, probably

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So that explains how new tribes suddenly popped up after Trishula froze the world.

[Agro]

Trishula was such a powerful program that it bricked the computer, lol.

[Overfrost!]

Qliphoth (literally "Peels", "Shells" or "Husks", from singular: קליפה Qliphah/Kelipah "Husk") are the representation of evil or impure spiritual forces in Jewish mysticism.

So, Sophia is evil as well? But as seen in most fiction stories around the world, their actions are considered evil, from the perspective of the people that live in DT world at least.

[Maeriberii Haan]

Sophia is neither evil, nor she is good. She is truly a neutral character, that only do what she meant to do, creating and resetting the Duel Terminal world whenever necessary.

[Maeriberii Haan]

Look what I stumbled into in 4chan. It looks awfully familiar lol.

[Blake]

Did 4chan steal our lore speculation

[~British Soul~]

Did 4chan steal our lore speculation

I suppose that's the most likely option as I don't think anyone on here would post it on 4chan would they?

[Sunn O)))]

I suppose that's the most likely option as I don't think anyone on here would post it on 4chan would they?

 

One of us is a spy for 4chan....

 

It's not me.

[~British Soul~]

One of us is a spy for 4chan....

 

It's not me.

Hmm... I suppose that's a possibility.

 

...and it's not me either.

[Toffee.]

Posted by an anon, I'm sure.
Not me either, but I'd love to know who posted it =D

[Darj]

This is really well thought, and makes sense to some degree, but I still don't think that everything can be blamed on Roach. Yes, he actually may be directly responsible for the victory of Sombres & Kery, because we don't know if his support in the fight led to their victory, or if in the other iterations where Roach didn't happen the duo failed to defeat Sophia; but I wouldn't say he was responsible for other events where he was indirectly involved, or not involved at all, such as the rise of Verz or Crystal's corruption.

 

The "Roach is transforming into a Constellar" theory feels like a stretch:

- You mention the transformation of Roach into a more humanoid form to support the theory, but we really don't know if Roach's "mouth" is actually some kind helmet or mask that conceals a human mouth. If only we could see the rest of Exciton's face to confirm if he truly changed, but those red protectors are covering it. That aside, Exciton didn't change that much.

- The Vylon fragment that Sentinel encountered is highly unlikely to be a Constellar relic, considering that Constellars designed Vylons to fight against Steelswarms, and I doubt they would use valuable relics to build them, and thus exposing them to being lost or destroyed. However, the relic being accessed "illegally" remains as a possibility.

- This is something you didn't point out, but Roach received a silver armor from the blessing, whereas Leoh acquired a Verz&Sacred themed armor. While this may imply a step on the transformation of Roach into a Constellar, it also might have been because Roach was already a Verz, or rather an Inverz, so it would have been kind of redundant to give him a partially-Verz armor.

 

 

By the way, you claim that Disigma was infected by the Verz, but I have yet to find any source confirming that event.

[Armoire]

I looove this theory. But then I have so many questions.

So, does that mean Leo, the Keeper of the Sacred Tree is also evolved? 
Since Leodrake is a Naturia, and Naturias were supposed to be frozen by Trishula, how did he survive long enough to be blessed by the sacred tree?
And if Shaddolls are glitches, Qliphoth are some type of anti-virus program that's hunting down Exciton, right?
What are the Yang Zing?

Probably some of them, if not most, are stupid.

 

 

 

Also, an Exciton is something that basically becomes a

 

Becomes a what? >.>

[Darj]

Since this is also a DT lore thread, I guess I can post here stuff I have been thinking regarding the DT storyline, after reading the leaks posted in the Rumor Mill thread:
 

[]ネクロス/ニュクス Necross or Nyx
● Ritual Monster theme based on the armor of Duel Terminal boss monsters.
● Incarnations of Trishula and Catastor are both present in this theme.
● "Nyx" Ritual Spell Cards are used to Ritual Summon them.

● Trishula's Ritual Summon requires 2 monsters with total level equaling its own, and banishes 3 cards on the field when Summoned. It also has some effect while it is in the hand.

Also details of the new DT World Plotline (from Eva mostly)
- The Sephiroth is managed by Sophia, while the Qliphoth (Qliphort) are managed by "Tierra".
- The original DT Tribes were created by Sophia, based on herself
- The Constellar and Evilswarm are the creations of Tierra
- The Constellars were based on the Qliphorts
- The El Shaddolls are controlled by Tierra, or rather their true form/true identity is Tierra.
- Tierra and Sophia oppose one another.
- The El Shaddolls are basically heroes and great/legendary people of the Tribes that currently exist, controlled by a higher power (hence El Shadoll Fusion's name reads "Contact with the Copy of God")
- Nephilim is one of Tierra's main bodies
- Basically, without Sophia, Tierra is able to run around, unchecked by its counterpart.

 

Tierra, Nyx and the WATER El-Shaddoll

The facts:
- Nyx is a Ritual Archetype.
- The other Ritual archetype from DT is Gishki, who used the Aquamirror for the Rituals, and sucessfully "revived" Hercules as Zielgigas.
- Trishula and Catastor will be back as Nyx.
- Both Trishula and Catastor were infected by the Verz.
 
Concidence? I think not.
Tierra wishes to bring back the Verz, one of her creations, to absorb them and further power herself up, taking the next step on the transformation into her true form, as she did with the Qliphort. And to bring them back she intends to use the Aquamirror, which has been proved to be powerful enough to bring deceased monsters (again, Zielgigas) and was formerly held by Kerykeion; if Shaddolls/Nephilim somehow obtained Kerykeion/Rasalhage's staff, then they most likely have the Aquamirror in their possession as well. If this is true, then the Nyx will be WATER (yes, another WATER Ritual DT archetype, but hey, we got 2 DARK DT archetypes based on corruptions of former DT monsters, and in consecutive generations, so it's not something Konami wouldn't do), and then a Shaddoll may fuse with a Nyx to give birth to the WATER El-Shaddoll.
 

Of course, this is just a theory and it will be debunked as soon as we get a Nyx that was not formerly a Verz, but considering the clues, it looks quite convicing in my opinion.

To be fair, this theory stems from a comment made on that same thread:
 

Now, since there's a Ritual Trishula, I'm just going to assume Nephilim's going to take him over and have her WATER attribute. But of course, there's no telling. I'm pretty excited, though. And I hope the Rituals this time are faster than Gishkis.

 

Sephiroth and the WIND El-Shaddoll

Although Sephiroth are in theory inactive because of the ausence of Sophia, I think it is still possible for them to show up in the DT World. For instance, assuming they are machines as well, they could become active through an automatic command that starts them up when the Qliphorts arise, in order to fight/control them.

Since Sephiroths are implied to be the opposites of Qliphorts, chances are that they will be WIND, since EARTH and WIND are considered opposite attributes (see Desert Twister). If this is the case, then Shaddolls could end up fusing with one of their members to turn into the remaining WIND El-Shaddoll.

 

 

Random thought

- I suspect Gem-Knights were also creations of Tierra, or at least she was involved in their creation. That would explain why the Shaddolls were technically born from a former Gem-Knight, and the Gem-Knight cores were capable of powering up the Qliphort as if they had been designed to do so. Nephilim/Tierra also knew how to release the cores from Caingorgorm/Egrystal.

[Blake]

For the record, it's all but confirmed that Nyx are post-doll part of the story.

Which makes sense, because last we saw, Trishula was fused into Kery. Meaning it's alive but restrained.

Water el Shaddoll is probably Mind Augus or Gustkraken, WIND is likely Mist wurm.

Gustkraken could be the wind, though, and given that Tierra has apparently killed Off Kery, Trishula could possibly be the WATER, but seems unlikely.

[Maeriberii Haan]

Trishula was fused into Kery. Meaning it's alive but restrained.

 

Just saying. Trush was not actually fused, but it is indeed restrained in the spheres of Kery.

 

Also, not to keen on either Gustkrake or Wurm to be the Water/Wind fusion. Since mainly, Wurm has been confirmed a while back to not be an individual, really. And I'd think the Water Ritual would be Ariel straight instead of Gustkrake.

[Blake]

Just saying. Trush was not actually fused, but it is indeed restrained in the spheres of Kery.

Also, not to keen on either Gustkrake or Wurm to be the Water/Wind fusion. Since mainly, Wurm has been confirmed a while back to not be an individual, really. And I'd think the Water Ritual would be Ariel straight instead of Gustkrake.

According to the leaks, legendary beasts can be chosen instead of heroes.

And it's level based.

5 - Midrash
6 - ????
7 - Egrystal
8 - Neph
9 - ????
10 - Sheki

[Jord200]

Well I don't remember there being any other Level 9 WIND monsters in Duel Terminal, so yeah. Its probably Mist Wurm.

[Maeriberii Haan]

Ah right. There's no other level 9 WIND, and there's nothing for level 9 WATER...


...except for trish.

I hope they make the level 9 Wurm instead of the bajillionth rehash of trishula.

[Greiga]

Can someone refresh my memory on what Sombre and Kery are doing? I know Sombre summoned the Yang Zing but what has Kery done?

[Blake]

Can someone refresh my memory on what Sombre and Kery are doing? I know Sombre summoned the Yang Zing but what has Kery done?

Leak implied that Sombres was body jacked by Tierra and turned into Nephilim.

Kerykeion was potentially killed and used to corrupt first Satellarknight Unukalhai and then the Yang Zing.

[Armoire]

Leak implied that Sombres was body jacked by Tierra and turned into Nephilim.

Kerykeion was potentially killed and used to corrupt first Satellarknight Unukalhai and then the Yang Zing.

 

Which leak was that on? Can I have a link or something?

Also, do you think it's possible or likely that Winda turned to Tierra when she prayed to Sofia, which decided to destroy everything, and ultimately became Midrash?

[Maeriberii Haan]

The one that prayed to Sophia was her sister, I believe.