the_engineer Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner LIGHT monstersOnce per turn: You can pay 1000 Life Points, then target 1 card on the field;banish that target. When this card is destroyed: You can target any number of other "Lightsworn" monsters in your Graveyard; shuffle them into the Deck, and if you do, you gain 300 Life Points for each returned card. During each of your End Phases: Send the top 3 cards of your Deck to the Graveyard. Discuss one of the best LV7 synchro ever printed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 It's nice that it's not restricted to Lightsworns (such as needing a Lightsworn Tuner/non-Tuner), but Lightsworn is really the only place it belongs, due to the "mill 3". That said, it's extremely solid at 2600 ATK and being able to banish any card for 1000 LP, with the option of restoring LP when it's destroyed. While that seems counterproductive for Lightsworns in general, you can pick and choose which Lightsworns to return to the Deck, which allows you to still have the 4 in your Grave for JD if you wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 It's nice that it's not restricted to Lightsworns (such as needing a Lightsworn Tuner/non-Tuner), but Lightsworn is really the only place it belongs, due to the "mill 3". That said, it's extremely solid at 2600 ATK and being able to banish any card for 1000 LP, with the option of restoring LP when it's destroyed. While that seems counterproductive for Lightsworns in general, you can pick and choose which Lightsworns to return to the Deck, which allows you to still have the 4 in your Grave for JD if you wanted. Banish > JD > Nuke > Shuffle shit > another JD is actually a move that I use a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 JD's face in the artwork is all: "HUE HUE HUE LITESWERNS" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 It's nice that it's not restricted to Lightsworns (such as needing a Lightsworn Tuner/non-Tuner), but Lightsworn is really the only place it belongs, due to the "mill 3". That said, it's extremely solid at 2600 ATK and being able to banish any card for 1000 LP, with the option of restoring LP when it's destroyed. While that seems counterproductive for Lightsworns in general, you can pick and choose which Lightsworns to return to the Deck, which allows you to still have the 4 in your Grave for JD if you wanted. That's like saying Ryko or Lyla don't belong outside of LS. It's a very good card, just LIGHT decks that can make level 7 Synchros are pretty much just Fableds, sometimes Hieratics, and Lightsworn. I suppose it's not too hard with Artifacts, but what Level 2 tuner are you using? And why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 That's like saying Ryko or Lyla don't belong outside of LS. It's a very good card, just LIGHT decks that can make level 7 Synchros are pretty much just Fableds, sometimes Hieratics, and Lightsworn. I suppose it's not too hard with Artifacts, but what Level 2 tuner are you using? And why? Falcon. Because Shaddolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 Falcon. Because Shaddolls.So you're running Shaddolls incorrectly...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 That's like saying Ryko or Lyla don't belong outside of LS. It's a very good card, just LIGHT decks that can make level 7 Synchros are pretty much just Fableds, sometimes Hieratics, and Lightsworn. I suppose it's not too hard with Artifacts, but what Level 2 tuner are you using? And why? That's true. It might have a use in Agents, using Earth, Venus, and a Ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 If Birdman ever goes back to 3, Gallis.dek could run this.Could also be pro and tech something like Emergency Teleport in anything that runs Wyver/Collap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I run it with Galaxy Soldier, who searches Galaxy Serpent. In Galaxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 So you're running Shaddolls incorrectly...? You mean Shaddollfacts are not a thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 You mean Shaddollfacts are not a thing? Not a GOOD thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 You mean Shaddollfacts are not a thing? They are a subpar thing. But yeah, when the deck was still in an experimental state, Falcon + Morall into this was legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 If Birdman ever goes back to 3, Gallis.dek could run this. Could also be pro and tech something like Emergency Teleport in anything that runs Wyver/Collap. E-Tele and Krebons in Artifacts. How would that work? And I don't get why is it Dragon-Type when it is merely mounting JD; it should have been Fairy in my opinion, for obvious reasons. I can't remember if I have summoned this card ever, but I don't need to play it to understand how good is it: Targeting any card on the field AND banishing it is great. Off-topic: I too thought that Shaddollfacts were good. Did that change because of the Limit on Moralltach, or they were subpar before then? And which is currently the best Shaddoll variant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 E-Tele and Krebons in Artifacts. How would that work? And I don't get why is it Dragon-Type when it is merely mounting JD; it should have been Fairy in my opinion, for obvious reasons. I can't remember if I have summoned this card ever, but I don't need to play it to understand how good is it: Targeting any card on the field AND banishing it is great. Off-topic: I too thought that Shaddollfacts were good. Did that change because of the Limit on Moralltach, or they were subpar before then? And which is currently the best Shaddoll variant? Shadollfacts were always meh because Moralltach is bad in a Shaddoll format, and even if you add in Scythe as an answer, they still lack a real answer to dolls. The best Shaddolls under the TCG list... are shaddolls. You can tech things like Caius/Majesty's Fiend, but the best build is straight up Shaddolls with techs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_engineer Posted July 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 And I don't get why is it Dragon-Type when it is merely mounting JD; it should have been Fairy in my opinion, for obvious reasons. The fact that it is dragon type makes it banish-able by Rulers in the Rulersworn build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 Shadollfacts were always meh because Moralltach is bad in a Shaddoll format, and even if you add in Scythe as an answer, they still lack a real answer to dolls. The best Shaddolls under the TCG list... are shaddolls. You can tech things like Caius/Majesty's Fiend, but the best build is straight up Shaddolls with techs. Thanks for the answer. And I'm glad that pure Shaddolls are the best, because that's the version I would look forward to using if I ever play IRL again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 That's true. It might have a use in Agents, using Earth, Venus, and a Ball. Or in Sanctuary agents with Uranus and a Ball. inb4sanctuaryagentsareawful OT: It's one of those cards that is really powerful, but is not generic so doesn't have the utility to become utterly off-the-wall bonkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philemon Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 They turned an Archangel riding Judgement Dragon, into a Dragon-type. I know Konami has that Boss=Dragon fetish but come on, that's going too far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 And I don't get why is it Dragon-Type when it is merely mounting JD; it should have been Fairy in my opinion, for obvious reasons. The fact that it is dragon type makes it banish-able by Rulers in the Rulersworn build They turned an Archangel riding Judgement Dragon, into a Dragon-type. I know Konami has that Boss=Dragon fetish but come on, that's going too far! They do this all the time with dragon riders. Hell, Gaia Drake's a beast warrior because it's a man on a horse. Only non-example that comes to mind is Dark Blade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Dragon Master Knight is also a Dragon I think its just following on continuity. Also Dark Blade the Dragon Knight sucks just because its Warrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 They do this all the time with dragon riders. Hell, Gaia Drake's a beast warrior because it's a man on a horse. Only non-example that comes to mind is Dark Blade. Dragon Master Knight is also a Dragon I think its just following on continuity. Also Dark Blade the Dragon Knight sucks just because its Warrior That makes sense. I was not complaining anyways, I just found its Dragon-type a bit weird when the card's name is referring to the angel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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