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This one looks decently balanced. I would just add a "This card cannot attack during the turn this effect is activated" clause.

Why? This card already is astonishingly expensive to put out on the board because it needs to Rank 7 Xyzs in order to even hit the field. Gaia Charger does help in making this, yes, but you need the same amount of materials to make a Rank 5 or 6 monster, even if they are of different Levels. In return, you get a monster with moderate ATK for a normal Rank 7 monster, and a worse version of Fairy Cheer Girl's effect. It's more versatile since you can win with the damage, but that's a terrible way to use the effect because the two Rank 7s you used to make this will deal far more damage anyway. Over time, you can theoretically use this effect multiple times on yourself for free draws, but in reality, this card has no protection and can very easily be gotten rid of by the next turn. Not to mention that, compared to the normal Rank 7s we have, this card's effect is far worse than Big Eye's steal of Dracossack's Tokens + general destruction. So no, it doesn't need that clause. It doesn't even look decently balanced.

 

As for the card maker, it would help the card's playability tremendously if you made your monster to require monsters with Levels instead of Ranks, like pretty much every other Xyz Monster we have right now does. Outside of Rank 4s (and maybe a Rank below that), it is very uncommon to get two monsters of the same Rank out, and the monsters that they are using are being used for their own effects which means less materials for this. I like your idea of a versatile effect like what you do have, but giving your opponent a draw is far too much a trap against yourself, and the 1500 burn on yourself sometimes is too much. Just try to fiddle around with some other effects and maybe something will work out.

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1. Why? 2. This card already is astonishingly expensive to put out on the board because it needs to Rank 7 Xyzs in order to even hit the field. 3. Gaia Charger does help in making this, yes, 4. but you need the same amount of materials to make a Rank 5 or 6 monster, even if they are of different Levels. 5.In return, you get a monster with moderate ATK for a normal Rank 7 monster, and a worse version of Fairy Cheer Girl's effect. 6.It's more versatile since you can win with the damage, 7. but that's a terrible way to use the effect because the two Rank 7s you used to make this will deal far more damage anyway. 8. Over time, you can theoretically use this effect multiple times on yourself for free draws, 9. but in reality, this card has no protection and can very easily be gotten rid of by the next turn. 10. Not to mention that, compared to the normal Rank 7s we have, this card's effect is far worse than Big Eye's steal of Dracossack's Tokens + general destruction. 11. So no, it doesn't need that clause. It doesn't even look decently balanced.
 

1. Constellars, Gaia Charger
2. Constellars, Gaia Charger
3. Gaia Charger
4. Constellars
5. It's like Castel, a budget version of 101
6. Gagaga Cowboy but with more oomph and draw power. Can't you reverse damage with that one card? And you get free draws?
7. Well, what If you have a completely used up Dracossack and Big Eye left on the board? Might as well go for game.
8. No, really?
9. That's why there are decks built around Xyz monsters. Decks like Nimble should immediately fold to other decks.
10. That's because the target market for Xyz materials is Big Eye and Dracossack itself.
11. What tells you that?

 

I was even kind enough to number it.

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What you've been doing is answering his questions with rather niche situations that generally require Deck dedication, or expecting every Deck to run Gaia Charger or Xyz Change into R7 Constellar stuff.

 

You need to consider what kind of things are most likely to be seen at the moment, and as of now seeing a Deck put out R7 monsters with enough speed to warrant the use of this card is not an issue, after the Dragon Ruler phase has passed. The effort one needs to do so right now, outside of particular combos that seem like they'd clog the Extra Deck, are just a tad too high to warrant this card deserving a spot in the Extra Deck compared to other monsters that could be easily made, and the payouts for the effort as-is doesn't shine strongly enough.

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1. Constellars, Gaia Charger

They still need the same amount of resources to make them. Plus, Ptolemy is, if I heard correctly, worse in its own Deck than it is in a general Rank 6 Deck. So you're telling Constellars to spam their monsters out for a 1500 burn that gives someone a card instead of just making smarter Rank 4 plays or keeping Pleiades on the field.
2. Constellars, Gaia Charger
3. Gaia Charger

Really, if you're making Constellar Omega or whatever, turning it into Ptolemy, then turning it into Gaia Charger, just for the sake of turning it into this, you end up using like half your Extra Deck on this card alone. And as I said, it's not really worth it. It's just a beefier version of Fairy Cheer Girl who burns you for 1500 per use. If they use Instant Fusion for Noden and revive a Sombre, they can just make Fairy Cheer Girl without spending half their Extra or it taking up two entire Xyz Monsters. So, even in Constellars this is a horrible idea. You're spending the overwhelming advantage you had that could churn out 2 Xyzs into one final monster, who gives you a draw. That's a +0, and this isn't even including the fact that Xyz Monsters are generally a -1 to make (but Noden is a +0 in the end). You're spending advantage to gain a lesser amount of advantage, while eating damage.
4. Constellars
5. It's like Castel, a budget version of 101

Like how Lavalval Ignis is a budget version of #17 or Dante? Ok, since I'm poor I'm taking #17 and Dante out of any of my Decks on DN and running Ignis instead. Kthxbye. Really, the fiscal part of the game should have nothing to do with how cards on a card-making site are made.
6. Gagaga Cowboy but with more oomph and draw power. Can't you reverse damage with that one card? And you get free draws?

It's not free if you take 1500 to the face each time. 1500 is a lot, and you're choosing this card in exchange for whatever two Xyz Monsters you had out. Either you won't be using those to their full potential or it will take forever, albeit there are a few exceptions where you'd naturally want to go into Gaia Charger, like Gauntlet Launcher and the Inzektor R6.
7. Well, what If you have a completely used up Dracossack and Big Eye left on the board? Might as well go for game.

If you have two Big Eyes/Dracossacks completely devoid of materials, you have already won the game. If not, you're in a winning position. That makes this card winmoar, as in you can easily enough win without using this. If you have your two Xyzs without materials and you are somehow losing, then switching to this card will still not help you.
8. No, really?

When you take a part of a sentence out of context, then yeah, really! Also, say "Constellars, Gaia Charger" ten times fast.
9. That's why there are decks built around Xyz monsters. Decks like Nimble should immediately fold to other decks.

This still does not justify anyone expecting to keep this around for many turns on end. Unless your opponent runs a terrible Deck that can't beat a 2700 body, it will die, fast.
10. That's because the target market for Xyz materials is Big Eye and Dracossack itself.
11. What tells you that?

You know, the fact that it is a Rank 7 needing Rank 7 monsters to make and is still worse than Rank 7s that just need Level 7 monsters.

 

I was even kind enough to number it.

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Well, this card is certainly intelligently designed. It acts as either a 1500 burn finisher or as a card draw engine. VERY smart. High hope for your future cards. Also, from what I could tell, your ocg was flawless. Anyway, I feel like this should in fact require 2 level 7s, so that its use as SCa finisher could be capitalized upon more heavily. Sort like a bigger cowboy for rulers/gadgets/mermails. Yes, gaia makes this more playable, but not by much.

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Most "Chaos" cards either involve banishing, or something with LIGHT and DARK monsters; this card only has the DARK attribute, so it does not really fit into the flavor of most other members of that set. But don't worry to much about that, not all members of that serie follow that trend. But lets take a look at what the card does.

 

Its summoning conditions are quite unusual; requiring 2 Xyz Monsters as Materials for its summon, only 1 other monster shares that trait: "Number F0: Future King Hope". That card can be Xyz Summoned using 2 Rank 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 or 12 monsters. A little bit more viable wouldn't you agree? Their effects are a tad too different to declare which card is better; simply because they fulfill different roles. A little bit of track there... So back on topic, this card is rather hard to summon, and does not even benefit you all that much. In prior posts the regular way of summoning has been evaluated mostly, therefore I will use a more obscure one: "Adreus, Keeper of Armageddon" + "Rank-Up Magic Astral Force". Not all that hard to perform in Rank 5 spamming decks. That leaves its effect.

 

Its effect lets it deal quite some damage to either player, but compensates them with a new hand card. "Superdreadnought Rail Cannon Gustav Max" is 'easier' to summon by only requiring 2 Level 10 monsters, and deals 500 points more damage; without giving your opponent the advantage of drawing a card. Or, as the others have already suggested, use the Rank4 "Gagaga Cowboy" for 800 points of damage. If you wanted to draw a card(s), there are some other alternatives. One that closely mimics this card, is "Coach King Giantrainer". It requires 3 Level 8 monsters, but lets you draw up to 3 cards at the cost of your Battle Phase (and its Xyz Materials); and it deals up to 2400 points of damage to your opponent. 

 

Enough about what is 'bad' about this card, and lets suggest some changes to make it somewhat more useful. The primary issue with this card is its Summoning; if you replace the requirements to be Level 7 monsters, this card would probably become more viable. If you do, you might also want to add an Xyz Evolution effect using a Rank 7 monster(s) you control; similar to "Gaia Dragon, the Thunder Charger". Or you could mix these effects so you get something like: "2 Level/Rank 7 monsters (Xyz Materials attached to those monsters become also Xyz Materials on this card.)". With new Summoning requirements, I think this card is good to go. 

 

Whether or not you do something with my suggestions, or reasoning is up to you; but I hope you have some usage for my comment.

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