Peridank Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 The message of Boyinaband's new video isnt talking about the kids but rather subjects that shouldn't be more mandatory as say trading stocks. I want to know your guy's view point on this video. #DontStayInSchool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xe6nLVXEC0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 On one hand I think kids should learn financial responsibility. On the other hand, kids spend way too much time in school as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Not gonna watch the vid, because that guy's hair is 2edgy4me, but here is my general opinion on what I assume to be the topic based on what has been said. Not everything we learn in school is something we will commonly use in life. I often hear people complain about this, usually citing math skills such as the pythagorean theorem or trigonometry. Thing is, this really frustrates me. These people think that just because you don't need to know shit to be a farmhand means that early preparation for college isn't necessary. They don't understand the opportunity they are being given to learn these things while it is still free. They refuse to learn, and blame a their laziness on the system being broken. That has become the American mindset, in a society where dividends are valued more highly than logic. The most frustrating part is that they are not wrong. These math theorems are something they will never use again. I am just constantly bothered By the insistence against learning, even though there is nothing to lose by doing so. /rant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peridank Posted February 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 The time in school wouldn't have to be extended... just reorganized with how much of it we spend doing certain activities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Learn for the glory of satan learning, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 I kinda relate to this song since it says exactly what I think. We learn a lot of pointless stuff, but worst thing is, we're being judged on how good we know them. I barely passed History midterms. Like, literally barely. And in eyes of most people, for that, I'm dumb. Since I have a low number next to "History". This is idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peridank Posted February 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 The worst part is what giga said... I agree with him but even after watching the video... people don't seem to fully understand the message. Hes not saying "Get rid of Algebra 2" or anything like that. No. He is saying that things need to be re-prioritized. Which I agree. They don't make it a point to teach you your human rights... but they do make it a point to understand the insides of a frog. Granted there were reasons for that project but they don't compare to Human Rights. This can be said about many other things. As stated in the video "Introduce these subjects yes, but don't force them". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cirrus Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 It's not what is learned but how it is taught (and information retainment is tested) that is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 I do remember hearing year 7s (11-12) saying they were never going to use maths in life. Alot of things taught in school do seem irrelevant unless you plan to pursue that as career and you won't know you want to unless you're exposed to it. So they kind of need to expose you to a bit of everything, in the hopes one thing will click. Career advice should be more readily available in school, but the process for job applications are changing all the time, so it's hard to keep current. My school showed us briefly how to make a CV (no cover letter), but alot of companies have moved onto online applicatons or application forms, so whilst it will help keep information together it will be completely unhelpful. The UK have the jobcentres to help if you have problems with CVs, Cover Letter and Applications. Lifeskills in my school should have really covered alot of this, but it was literally so focused on drugs, I barely remember anything else we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 It's not what is learned but how it is taught (and information retainment is tested) that is the problem. Although I agree that it's preferable that information be taught well, different sets of information inherently have different degrees of interest based on societal demands. If the interest isn't there to begin with, teaching the information well can only compensate for the relatively low value of the information taught. Not gonna watch the vid, because that guy's hair is 2edgy4me, but here is my general opinion on what I assume to be the topic based on what has been said. Not everything we learn in school is something we will commonly use in life. I often hear people complain about this, usually citing math skills such as the pythagorean theorem or trigonometry. Thing is, this really frustrates me. These people think that just because you don't need to know s*** to be a farmhand means that early preparation for college isn't necessary. They don't understand the opportunity they are being given to learn these things while it is still free. They refuse to learn, and blame a their laziness on the system being broken. That has become the American mindset, in a society where dividends are valued more highly than logic. The most frustrating part is that they are not wrong. These math theorems are something they will never use again. I am just constantly bothered By the insistence against learning, even though there is nothing to lose by doing so. /rant The video you didn't watch isn't anti-learning, it's saying that there should be different priorities regarding what's being taught. This topic is about the video specifically and his hair won't hurt you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 Whelp. I am a Yr 8 so i guess i should kinda care about this....... I think..... (This is my opinions on school in general btw) I think there are a few subjects that shouldnt be made so important tbh. Also, get rid of most homework, like please , seriously, i get given 7-8 pieces a week and the stuff isnt always easy... Also, i think that we shouldnt get numbered, its like we're robots, im number 3 for the year because im smart etc and everyone has ID numbers instead of names on the leader board if they get places 10/about 150 or below on the board. Its ridiculous. Yeah, school is dumb and the way its going its really discouraging for the not-so-smart people :/ EDIT: More on the subject, History is dumb, so is drama, and music, art is to an extent too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Homework is often seen as an extension of learning, to assure the teacher you get the subject you covered in the days lesson as they often have no time or other way to check understanding. It's get pointless when the teacher never marks it, as happened in AS Maths. This however shouldn't be a chance to give excessive homework. History isn't dumb if you decide you're interested in history, I wanted to do it at GCSE, but it was all modern history and I prefer Ancient. Drama is good if you want to go into acting for the stage or tv, etc, so I can't agree with that either. Music is good if you want to get into Music as a career such as working in a recording studio, writing your own music, etc. Basically each subject is useful if you wish to get into it. Schools really need to use more Vocational courses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaotic Angel Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Homework is often seen as an extension of learning, to assure the teacher you get the subject you covered in the days lesson as they often have no time or other way to check understanding. It's get pointless when the teacher never marks it, as happened in AS Maths. This however shouldn't be a chance to give excessive homework. History isn't dumb if you decide you're interested in history, I wanted to do it at GCSE, but it was all modern history and I prefer Ancient. Drama is good if you want to go into acting for the stage or tv, etc, so I can't agree with that either. Music is good if you want to get into Music as a career such as working in a recording studio, writing your own music, etc. Basically each subject is useful if you wish to get into it. Schools really need to use more Vocational courses. ^ This. Vocational courses are already in college, but I agree. We need to implement them in schools also. Otherwise the educational system would go nowhere and we'd be standing in the same spot for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 History isn't dumb if you decide you're interested in history, I wanted to do it at GCSE, but it was all modern history and I prefer Ancient. Drama is good if you want to go into acting for the stage or tv, etc, so I can't agree with that either. Music is good if you want to get into Music as a career such as working in a recording studio, writing your own music, etc. Basically each subject is useful if you wish to get into it. No, as-in its dumb for me and my class because my teacher cant teach us if her life depended on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 That's a flaw with the education system in your school, not education overall. Admittedly I did have that problem with GCSE French when the teacher decided she wanted to only teach students who could get the higher grades, I wouldn't call a subject dumb over it (I only did French because there was not enough people who wanted to do History as an extra option (I could of got in if I'd sacrificed doing Geography) and IT was over subscribed.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindTheMask Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 MAN WHY DONT THEY TEACH US WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW LIKE TAXES!?!?! BTW IM TOTALLY NOT GONNA STUDY FOR MY MATH TEST BECAUSE I HAVE A CALCULATOR LOL GET REKT TEACHER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaotic Angel Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 And that was the reason why I fucked up in my GCSEs. But another reason was that I learnt absolutely nothing when I was at school. Grim, I know but it's the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 MAN WHY DONT THEY TEACH US WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW LIKE TAXES!?!?! BTW IM TOTALLY NOT GONNA STUDY FOR MY MATH TEST BECAUSE I HAVE A CALCULATOR LOL GET REKT TEACHER I have not seen this impressive of a "missing the point" in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapidfire Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Idk I just wish it didn't dominate my life so much. I mean today I got home at like 8, which is pretty normal since I do theater. And now I gotta study, and do my hw and some of this stuff I don't even understand. I guess I'm just frustrated that so much of my time is wasted. I have so many complaints about school that I don't really know how to put together a coherent argument. I mean if you want a coherent explanation today I had like 4 quizzes/ tests one after another. I'm tired. I'm hungry. I don't have time to study let along take care of myself. I mean I'd like to work out and maybe fix my mental state, but I don't have time for it. Maybe the solution would be to drop theater, but colleges want this. I need to be on the verge of a mental break down over the amount of work I can't get done every day, for them to even think about giving me a scholarship. And that's what's wrong with the educational system here. Also god forbid anyone has any mental issues because as soon as you do you get called lazy, and literally no one cares. No one cares how bad it may be, the only thing that matters is getting an A on that test. It's so freaking bad. Maybe it's a little tougher for me since I have hard-ass parents, but I'm sure a lot of people understand where I'm coming from. The system, in my opinion, was built to harvest the best workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindTheMask Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 I have not seen this impressive of a "missing the point" in a long time. I think you missed my point man. So, the OP stated that we dont learn the "right" things in school, like stuff that will be useful in life, but a lot of education(at least when i was in school) was the building blocks to learn the more advanced subjects. A complaint I often hear is that we don't learn things like "how to balance a check book, and do taxes" but that is just somewhat advanced math. High school isnt supposed to be a "Hey here is what you need to know for life, once you graduate you're set" its more like "hey heres the basics, if you learn these, you should be able to figure out how to do more things." Also, on the topic, I feel as though we should move away from what I call "referential knowledge", in that just learning facts isnt as important. In an age where we have vast resources at our disposal(and most likely in your pocket), learning how to problem solve and figure out how to break complex things down is more important. I can look up solutions to a problem anytime i want, but to figure out how to solve the problem, I can learn how to also solve similar problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smear Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 I left school last year and I'm fucking clueless thank you education system u really helped with my life i'll never forget the time i never cared about shakespeare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 I don't plan to stay in school. I plan to get a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 You do realise you need school to get most jobs now, although things may seem useless you do pick up some transferable skills such as time management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limited Edition KING Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 I left school last year and I'm f*cking clueless thank you education system u really helped with my life i'll never forget the time i never cared about shakespeare I'm bloody dying mate please stop killing me with your hilariousness and awesomeness. School sucks. Thanks Algebra, still trying to find a use for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 You do realise you need school to get most jobs now, although things may seem useless you do pick up some transferable skills such as time management. You don't seem to realize the idea of the joke. Once I am done with school(that includes college), I will be going for a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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