CLG Klavier Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Pendulum Effect You cannot Pendulum Summon monsters, except "Nekroz" or "Zefra" monsters. This effect cannot be negated.Monster Effect You can Tribute this card from your hand or face-up from your side of the field; Tribute monsters from your hand or field, then Ritual Summon 1 "Nekroz" Ritual Monster from your hand whose Level exactly equals the total Levels of those monsters. You can only use this effect of "Sword Saint of the Nekroz - Sephira Saber" once per turn. So, Zefra are getting more and more support, and seems Konami are really pushing them. Are we really gonna see a deck playing Nekroz rituals, Shaddoll Fusion, Yang Zing Synchros and all that shizz together AND work together well? Time will tell, but I sure as heck can't wait for them to hit DN so I can experiment around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 They currently seem like an all-over the place version of DDD's, wouldnt surprise me if Reiji's dad uses these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Ideally, these are like a blank slate deck. You can go whatever route you want and find success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 I find it strange how this card also embodies X-Sabers(artwork wise), when anything that wasn't Shaddoll/Yang/Qli/etc was implied to be dead in the DT story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 What's it's type? If it's warrior that would be lovely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted February 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 It's a Spellcaster sadly :c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 I find it strange how this card also embodies X-Sabers(artwork wise) Yes it does! It has fulhelmknights weird lashy thing and alot of swords.... I knew it looked familiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 It's a Spellcaster sadly :c That's too bad. I'd still consider it in Nekroz though, if only because it's a searchable Normal Summon 4 with utility in the hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 TBH, you could play like 2-3 Brionac, 1 Valkyrus, 2 Saber, 1-2 Exa and you have a decent Nekroz engine. Valkyrus is either a searchable T-Roar or a draw engine by tributing Pendulums, which is just a +2. For Zefra themselves, you can play 3 and 2-3 of Qiuniu and Fuxi respectively, and 2-3 of each Satellar Zefra + Deneb and RotA. The dolls only seem good in a build dedicated to Shaddoll Fusion, Pilica seems like a mostly tech choice, Wendy/Windy seems like she could be better, given the counter trap. As decks themselves, Yang Zing benefit the most from their scales, but the Satellar Scales are the most searchable. The other decks don't really need/want to pendulum summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted February 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Thing is, do you really need to dedicate towards Shaddoll Fusion? I know the Konami list is undertuned, but they did ran 2 Shaddoll Fusion, 1 of each Zefra Shaddolls and I think like 3-4 other Shaddolls. That's the thing with Zefras that there will probably be a few lists around, each with a different focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Zefra is Sephira, right? Because it took me way too long to get that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted February 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Zefra is Sephira, right? Because it took me way too long to get that. Yeah, it's the TCG confirmed name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Thing is, do you really need to dedicate towards Shaddoll Fusion? I know the Konami list is undertuned, but they did ran 2 Shaddoll Fusion, 1 of each Zefra Shaddolls and I think like 3-4 other Shaddolls. That's the thing with Zefras that there will probably be a few lists around, each with a different focus.In theory, the Shaddoll variant sounds awful if you're not going balls to the wall. Neither Ohr nor Naga are incredibly strong, stats or effects, especially not naga. They don't work... at ALL as Shaddolls, and only decently as Zefra. The only selling point they really have is that they make Pilica/Exa better in a build with a Doll engine.Also dragon is a good generic card.But the deck has at least 4 GOOD cards (YZs, Tellars) and some decent cards (Saber, potentially Wen) to push you towards using them like that. Or just using the good cards in their own decks, where they still benefit you, either as pendulums, generic cards, or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 I'm looking forward for this archetype to hit DN as well. The entire archetype is a bit silly with the crossover gimmick plus artwork-wise I find funny how they gained a pair of wings just for becoming Zefras; but their flexibilty is really amazing and appealing. In a way they are like Shaddolls, who can adapt to different engines and attributes (but LIGHT is arguably superior because Nephilim), except that they take it to the next level. Most likely I will try a Shaddoll variant with a Zefra core (Quiniu and the Zefratellarknights for pops), a couple of teched Shaddolls Fusion plus the Zefrashaddolls and/or a Shaddoll engine. But running Deneb and possibly Altair to further support the Zefratellarknights doesn't look like a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 (In response to evilfusion, then Klav) ...and if I recall Sephira was an alternate translation since Zefra was known to us when we first got CROS leaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Also want to state that, while Ohr and Naga are essentially reclaiming advantage (most Pendulum scales are a -2 to set, even in Zefra), this deck doesn't seem like one to truly appreciate that, except when you get desperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted February 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 I mean, we need to try anyways, realistically, a Zefra deck based around any of the 5 engines might have potential, and while the Zefra Shaddolls don't technically do much, they DO allow you to recover whatever you set as a scale as a monster. And note that Jesshadoll does the same under the Field Spell since you can return a scale to hand using it, and then use the Field's Fusion effect to special summon what you just returned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 I'm probably gonna start with Nekrozefra and see how consistent a boss Sophia is in practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Yeah, I'm with Klavier. I'm not saying the Zefrashaddoll variant will be the best, it's just that it is the variant I want to try/test first because Shaddolls are among my favorite archetypes plus on paper I like the idea of having access to the El-Shaddoll pool. But I can tell the Zefrashaddolls may not be the best Zefra/Shaddolls to main, and it may be better to main a Shaddoll engine instead, if not both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted February 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 I mean, it's really hard to disprove anything in this deck since it's so...random at the first glance. Testing needs to be done to see what works and what doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 But Naga is fucking awful.Like, Lily's given me an argument for Ohr that makes sense, provided you run only 1 Doll Fusion as a game changer, but Naga is actually just awful. It has a bad level and a mediocre effect.The best one, in theory, to make is Grystal, as that sends Ohr + Exa. But the issue with that is not having "Shaddoll" cards in hand, which leads to running a full Doll variant for it to be useful. Same for Sheki. Winda doesn't seem useful here, and Construct has the same issue with Shaddoll cards to a degree, though i guess it's not the worst. The water might end up being another good!doll like Naga and Ohr, which means it might synergize better, but the rest feel out of place. And you can't go more Shaddoll heavy than Zefra, because then regular dolls are just better.YZ w/pendulum and Satellar w/pendulum sound like improvements to their decks for sure.Really, to begin solid planning we need to know what Wendy does. If she's Wen for Zefra/RB, she's a very good card. I could see them saying the Lance + the Tree saved Wen from the influence of the Dolls or some shit, which explains why she's uncorrupted like Fuxi/Qiuniu, except with a reason to Synergize with the counter trap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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