evilfusion Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 It's a card I don't like seeing, and this thread is for people to post cards they don't like seeing. Therefore, Silent Honor ARK for me :/. Why's that such a surprise? Probably because most mentions are cards that outright shut down a strategy or Deck, or screws you over in ridiculous ways, or indicates that the opponent is running a high-end meta Deck, whereas 101, by comparison, is rather tame. It's not that it's a bad choice, but it stands out as being a minor thing compared to the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Whoa, what? 101 is an absolutely healthy card, and you're complaining that it takes out unfair cards? 101's not even good anymore, but it's still a fine and healthy design. The only issue is that Castel exists and nearly 100% outclasses it. I'm sorry if someone else in the thread said something like this, too, I just didn't read anything before my post, bar the OP. you missed a herald.dek masterpiece fyi I absolutely hate ALL Nekroz decks. They are sooooo boring. Also, This is SO counterable its not even funny, this barely ever sticks unless you use demolisher with it. Most decks auto-run raigeki and snatch steal etc so its really not that hard to remove. Clearly you've never sat on the other end of Clausolas doubling as Jowgen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 you missed a herald.dek masterpiece fyi Clearly you've never sat on the other end of Clausolas doubling as Jowgen.Tbf that isn't very tough to break, or at least, not as unbreakable as people make it out to be. But it can be something to not like going up against which is ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 If you're depending on limited cards like Raigeki and Snatch Steal or bad cards like Dark Hole, it's pretty hard to remove when you need to.In addition, it's part of why Book of Eclipse is a good card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 it's part of why Book of Eclipse is a good card. You know it's a sad day when Book of Eclipse becomes a good card. On topic, though, I freaking hate Skill Drain. It may not be generic like other floodgate cards, but it screws so many Decks over that it isn't even funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 First on the list is Number 101: Silent Honor ARK. Being an lswarm and Fire Kings player, I absolutely HATE seeing this card. Being a staple in any deck that can get out two level 4's in one turn, I always see this card show its stupid face every turn after I summon Ophion or Garunix. If you're losing that many games to 101, it may be time to play some protection. Back when it came out it was super annoying, but you should have learned to deal with it by now. 101 is an absolutely healthy card, and you're complaining that it takes out unfair cards? 101's not even good anymore, but it's still a fine and healthy design. The only issue is that Castel exists and nearly 100% outclasses it. Hehehe. His anti-destruction effect has won me a couple games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Well yeah, 101 can win games with his protection, but he's steadily getng creeped out of the game, just like Exciton was. Even 1 of either of them in a top deck or, like, Tellarknights is not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderVolt Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Probably the 2 cards I hate facing the most (and more so the decks them selves) but the topic was about Card(s) so I had to pick the top 2. They may not be relevant any more but my dislike for both of these cards will always linger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rooster Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Virtually anything that is actually good. I'm 100/0 :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
- Minimania - Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 Qlis, Nekroz, and BA, but mostly BA and Qli because **** YOU.And I don't know if anyone else has this problem, but I hate seeing people play Royal Decree. It's not fun at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rooster Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 Any card that entirely fucks up the orientation of my deck isn't too pleasant for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 vanity's emptiness. it's easy to get rid of yes, but many of the people I face know exactly when to play it to elicit maximum salt.while it's banned now, super poly was very high on my list while it existed, and not that heroes have a one sided macro AND a feather duster, I've begun disliking them.qliphort are starting to get on my radar, but I actually haven't lost to them enough to care atm.on a side not, bad reaction is no longer on my list, since a few days ago I managed to chain a MST to the back of 2 gift cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Fire Hand and Ice Hand. They will guarantee that even if the entire meta slows to a crawl and Vanity's Emptiness becomes worthless, undermeta Decks still won't be able to compete with generic stun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 I'll post another picture to describe another few cards I hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rooster Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 I'll post another picture to describe another few cards I hate. Are those WATER monsters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Are those WATER monsters? Floodgates. Skill Drain, Vanity's Emptiness, Imperial Iron Wall, Soul Drain, Macro Cosmos, Dimensional Fissure, Mistake, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Are those WATER monsters? Ironically, no. Most floodgate cards KILL Water Decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rooster Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Ironically, no. Most floodgate cards KILL Water Decks. I really need to learn more yugioh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 words tl;dr almost everything I'd actually let this slide if it wasn't for the fact that you said Burning Abyss rewards bad play which I found rather amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Maybe it's just me being a nostalgic noob, but I can't for the life of me imagine how blowing up your own monsters and being rewarded with searches and removal is a good thing. He's not saying it is, but BA most certainly do not reward you for haphazard or poor playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peridank Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 -Trish from Nekroz -Dark Law from Heroes -Vanity's Emptiness Anything else that might deserve a spot is just scary and nothing else, these really have my hate right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catman25 Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 yo this shit fucked me up real good at regionals, or maybe I should be blaming Divine Wind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 I dislike playing against yugioh cards. This game has gotten so self-destructive that making a list would take too long. I mean, the game itself is cool, but the cards in it... what the fuck was konami thinking? A card shouldn't need to be unfair to be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 I dislike playing against yugioh cards. This game has gotten so self-destructive that making a list would take too long. I mean, the game itself is cool, but the cards in it... what the fuck was konami thinking?A card shouldn't need to be unfair to be good. Wrong. A game should most definitely have unfair cards. If everything is fair, there is no point in playing, as there is no edge to play Deck A over Deck B. Yeah, you can say 'playstyle', but that wears off after a while if the game is just completely even. Unfair cards are healthy so long as they don't dip into Toxic, which I do believe is what you intended with your post, as opposed to what you said. A toxic card is something like Nekroz of Trishula or Number 95. An unfair card is something like Performapal Pendulum Wizard, Edge Imp Chain/Frightfur Sheep, and... I could go on but there's very little in the top decks that can be pinned as closer to unfair than toxic in this regard in this sense. The problem is that power creep causes the level of toxic to rise as the level of unfair rises, though some things remain toxic with time. And speaking of, the Anime support for Arc-V is actually a very fun set of cards, overall. There are flaws, but they're much better game design than the ZeXal Anime support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 You seem to be under the impression that I said "games shouldn't have unfair cards". That is not what I said. What I said was "a card shouldn't need to be unfair to be good". Additionally, you seem to be acting like there is a set definition for "unfair" and that it is a technical term, neither of which is an accurate supposition. My point was pretty much that for a card to really be usable in the meta at this point, it has to break the game in some way, which really is just (hot word incoming, brace yourself) bad design that leads to nothing more than power creep. Of course, due to the non-rotating, banlist-sculpted nature of the game as a whole, this is really an unavoidable situation that we have to deal with. Each set makes the game more and more degenerate as a whole, otherwise there is no reason for players to buy new cards. To be honest, I don't think we are in disagreement on the matter, and I simply think you misunderstood my point as a whole. Tl;dr yugioh has powercreeped to the point that balanced cards are bad, but there is nothing we can do about it so me complaining is pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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