Forced Xyz

[shadowsapex]

Forced Xyz

Trap

Activate only when your opponent controls 2 or more monsters with the same level. Xyz summon an Xyz Monster from your opponent's Extra Deck to their side of the field, using monsters they control as Xyz Material.

 

What do you think?

[TF2_The_Scout]

That could be nice. Forcing them to get rid of 2 monsters to give them a premature XYZ they maybe don't need or 1 you can then take control of and use as your own. It could also deal with problem monsters that can't be destroyed or targeted.

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

The problem with this card is that you don't know WHAT your opponent has in their Extra Deck, so this wouldn't really work the way you intended it.

For all you know, they can be running Fusion and Synchro, but no Xyz.

 

That, and also consider the fact that some Xyz Monsters do have certain requirements on how they are to be summoned. If you activate this card, and requirements are not met, you cannot Xyz Summon that monster.

 

Sure, you can use this to force an Xyz onto their field so you can either destroy it or get problematic cards out of the way, but the above holds.

You have no knowledge of your opponent's Extra Deck, and thus you cannot tell if you have the activation requirements met.

[Azuriena]

The problem with this card is that you don't know WHAT your opponent has in their Extra Deck, so this wouldn't really work the way you intended it.

For all you know, they can be running Fusion and Synchro, but no Xyz.

 

That, and also consider the fact that some Xyz Monsters do have certain requirements on how they are to be summoned. If you activate this card, and requirements are not met, you cannot Xyz Summon that monster.

 

Sure, you can use this to force an Xyz onto their field so you can either destroy it or get problematic cards out of the way, but the above holds.

You have no knowledge of your opponent's Extra Deck, and thus you cannot tell if you have the activation requirements met.

 

And even if there are Xyz Monsters, you don't know if the Levels on the field match any in the Extra Deck.

 

But that's pretty obvious stuff. Obviously Forced Xyz wouldn't work if there are no Xyz Monsters to Xyz Summon. I don't see the problem here?

 

You can activate the card either way. If there are no valid Xyz Monsters it will just resolve without effect. If it were your own Extra Deck, then you wouldn't be able to.

[BT]

The problem with this card is that you don't know WHAT your opponent has in their Extra Deck, so this wouldn't really work the way you intended it.

For all you know, they can be running Fusion and Synchro, but no Xyz.

 

That, and also consider the fact that some Xyz Monsters do have certain requirements on how they are to be summoned. If you activate this card, and requirements are not met, you cannot Xyz Summon that monster.

 

Sure, you can use this to force an Xyz onto their field so you can either destroy it or get problematic cards out of the way, but the above holds.

You have no knowledge of your opponent's Extra Deck, and thus you cannot tell if you have the activation requirements met.

 

 

And even if there are Xyz Monsters, you don't know if the Levels on the field match any in the Extra Deck.

 

But that's pretty obvious stuff. Obviously Forced Xyz wouldn't work if there are no Xyz Monsters to Xyz Summon. I don't see the problem here?

 

You can activate the card either way. If there are no valid Xyz Monsters it will just resolve without effect. If it were your own Extra Deck, then you wouldn't be able to.

So based on these couldn't the effect be better like this:

 

Activate only when your opponent controls 2 or more monsters with the same Level. Look at your opponent's Extra Deck, then, if there are no Xyz Monsters in their Extra Deck, destroy this card. If there is a Xyz Monster(s) in their Extra Deck, Xyz summon an Xyz Monster from your opponent's Extra Deck to their side of the field, using monsters they control as Xyz Material, if possible, ignoring Summoning conditions.

 

, ignoring Summoning conditions. this part is a little sketchy and can be worked on imo. 

maybe , ignoring the Type and Attribute of the Xyz Materials is more suitable

[shadowsapex]

Sakura - You can typically take a good enough guess at what they're running. I doubt anyone runs Fusion and Synchro with no Xyz. Most decks with the power to get out 2 monsters of the same level should have at least a few generic Xyz monsters with that rank, like ARK, Castel, and Exciton for Lvl 4s, Zenmaines and Alucard for 3s, etc. Of course, these are run because they are good in most situations, but you could bait out Exciton and kill it or something like that.

 

BT - I don't think destroying a normal trap would do anything. I also don't think it would be necessary, since as Azuriena said, it would just do nothing if there were no Xyz monsters. And ignoring summoning conditions/requirements might be a little too powerful (either that or not very useful, since monsters with specific material requirements tend to be stronger).

 

Thanks for the feedback everyone! :D

[BT]

So would this be more of what you are looking for?

 

Activate only when your opponent controls 2 or more monsters with the same Level. Look at your opponent's Extra Deck, then, if there is a Xyz Monster(s) in their Extra Deck, Xyz summon an Xyz Monster from your opponent's Extra Deck to their side of the field, using monsters they control as Xyz Material, if possible.

the if possible can be optional I think

[shadowsapex]

Well, it's kinda redundant. I don't see how you can Xyz summon an Xyz monster if there are no Xyz monsters.

[BT]

Well, it's kinda redundant. I don't see how you can Xyz summon an Xyz monster if there are no Xyz monsters.

I see what you mean... hmm

 

Either this:

 

Activate only when your opponent controls 2 or more monsters with the same Level. Look at your opponent's Extra Deck, then Xyz summon an Xyz Monster from your opponent's Extra Deck to their side of the field, using monsters they control as Xyz Material, if possible.

 

OR

 

Activate only when your opponent controls 2 or more monsters with the same Level. Look at your opponent's Extra Deck: Xyz summon an Xyz Monster from your opponent's Extra Deck to their side of the field, using monsters they control as Xyz Material, if possible.

 

the difference is just timing