宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Personally, I would change the anti-targeting effect to something else, because Thought Ruler Archfiend already protects from targeting (although only from Spells/Traps, but it isn't once per turn) so it seems a bit redundant for both to have so similar effects. Maybe protection from destruction would be better? Although some Psychic-Types aren't affected by it much (Silent Psychic Wizard, Serene Psychic Witch, etc) it would help cover all bases. The ATK gain is nice, and could easily stack up a fair amount in the right deck. It is unlikely to go very high but could definitely be a useful way to get over problematic high ATK monsters like Apoqliphort Towers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted September 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Personally, I would change the anti-targeting effect to something else, because Thought Ruler Archfiend already protects from targeting (although only from Spells/Traps, but it isn't once per turn) so it seems a bit redundant for both to have so similar effects. Maybe protection from destruction would be better? Although some Psychic-Types aren't affected by it much (Silent Psychic Wizard, Serene Psychic Witch, etc) it would help cover all bases. The ATK gain is nice, and could easily stack up a fair amount in the right deck. It is unlikely to go very high but could definitely be a useful way to get over problematic high ATK monsters like Apoqliphort Towers.Well, thing is, targeting protection >>>> destruction protection. Aside from things like Dark Hole, Torrential and such, destruction isnt as relevant anymore in the meta. Having an accessible level 7 with targeting protection is a good boost for Psychics. Just look at how good Yazi is and you can tell how good targeting protection is, especially on an easily accessible card with relatively good body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 The thing is, this card takes away the main point in Thought Ruler Archfiend, as although this card's protection is once per turn, Level 7 is easier to make than Level 8 (Simply 4+3 for Level 7, whereas you have to do something like 2+6 or 3+4 and increase the level of 1 of them for Level 8). Surely there is something else you can protect from? Maybe protecting your Psychics from monster effects, or protecting your Graveyard/Banished from stuff (a bit more niche, but potentially still useful), or protecting them from effect negation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted September 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 The thing is, this card takes away the main point in Thought Ruler Archfiend, as although this card's protection is once per turn, Level 7 is easier to make than Level 8 (Simply 4+3 for Level 7, whereas you have to do something like 2+6 or 3+4 and increase the level of 1 of them for Level 8). Surely there is something else you can protect from? Maybe protecting your Psychics from monster effects, or protecting your Graveyard/Banished from stuff (a bit more niche, but potentially still useful), or protecting them from effect negation?Nah, doing that would only detract from its value as its own card. Even though it is geared for Psychics, it's still generic to a degree. Protecting Psychic from monster effect alone doesnt really cut it. It doesnt protect you from stuff like Fire Lake, among other things. Also what's so bad about taking away the main point from a card that is unwieldly to use and is already in due time to get outclassed anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 I'm not a fan really of just making something that almost completely outclasses an already existing card, especially when that card is still fairly good. Although there is bias towards TRA from me, so yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Level 7 is easier to make than Level 8 Honestly, that isn't how it works. And for the slot of "untargetable level 7 synchro" the job is already taken by both Clear Wing AND Yazi.I'm not a fan really of just making something that almost completely outclasses an already existing card, especially when that card is still fairly good. Although there is bias towards TRA from me, so yeah.It isn't outclassing if it doesn't even work the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted September 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 I'm not a fan really of just making something that almost completely outclasses an already existing card, especially when that card is still fairly good. Although there is bias towards TRA from me, so yeah.don't get me wrong i friggin love TRA, but there's nothing wrong with outclassing old cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Honestly, that isn't how it works. And for the slot of "untargetable level 7 synchro" the job is already taken by both Clear Wing AND Yazi.It isn't outclassing if it doesn't even work the same way. If that's not how it works, how does it work then? Not meaning to sound aggressive here (in case I am) just curious. Ok, I see your point. There are definitely times when I would want to go for Thought Ruler instead of this (against heavy backrow or if I needed the LP, for example), so it is fair enough to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 If that's not how it works, how does it work then? Not meaning to sound aggressive here (in case I am) just curious. Ok, I see your point. There are definitely times when I would want to go for Thought Ruler instead of this (against heavy backrow or if I needed the LP, for example), so it is fair enough to be honest.Level 7 isn't inherently easier to go for, really. Put simply, different decks go for different levels. And yeah. If a nontargetable level 7 synchro is all it takes to outclass TRA, that is covered by Yazi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Level 7 isn't inherently easier to go for, really. Put simply, different decks go for different levels. I was talking in the context of a Psychic-Type deck. Level 7 is very easy to do with Silent Psychic Wizard/Psychic Snail/PSI-Blocker + a Level 3 Tuner via E-Tele or Normal Summoned through Brain Research Lab, whereas Level 8 basically needs Brain Research Lab or Emergency Teleport or Telekinetic Power Well to get out a Level 2 Tuner and then Normal Summon Armored Axon Kicker. So its not actually difficult to do, just less convenient, as I tend to run less level 2 tuners than level 3 tuners, and less Level 6 monsters than Level 4 monsters. Although I guess it wouldn't be difficult to change my deck to be more focused on 8s, so I guess that wasn't really a good argument anyway. Also the thing is that the targeting doesn't just apply to itself like Yazi has, it applies to any Psychic-Type monster, making it so similar to TRA. Although the more I look at it, the more the once per turn sets it back, as that means your opponent is able to play around it easier. However, protecting from things like Castel helps a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astolfo Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 So like, it'd probably be easy to gain around 300-500ish with the gain effect. As for the negation + destruction, what if you have a banished monster that fits the criteria but only has like 100 ATK? Negation and destruction for basically full Psychic protection targeting wise for no specific amount minimum that has to be paid seems like it could be abused a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Card is nice. Basically a Yazi that can extend its protection to other Psychics as long as you have a banished monster. I know OP doesn't care about OCG, but I think it needs work since some words look redundant, awkward, etc. For instance, why bother with targeting the banished monster if you are not doing anything with that target anyway? It may as well read "Pay LP equal to half the ATK of 1 of your banished monsters:" Targeting would only be relevant if, let's say, there was a floodgate that prevented targeting, but I don't think anything like that exists yet.And the second effect states that it works during damage step only, so the "During the Battle Phase" timing condition is redundant. Actually, usually "during damage step only" ATK bonuses are continuous effects so even the (:) shouldn't be needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astolfo Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 I'd say a minimum might be nice, so it's not like, a really really small amount by banishing some fodder level 2/3/etc Psychic. I'd also say it should return it to grave if it uses the effect maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted September 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Well, it is already outclassed by Yazi in the targeting protection department. It's a once per turn effect, requires an existing target to work with, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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