Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Amaterasu isn't even that widespread. Performage Pendulum and its variants are popular right now behind Kozmo but most of the deck's plays are still pretty fair outside of Masked Chamaelon or Dracoslayer + PlushfireHere are the variants:-Majespecter Performage-Performage + generic Pendulums-Brilliant Fusion PerformageI mean Kozmo matchup actually comes down to F0 or Dweller + Reptier as far as outting shipsTrishula.& Ignitster as well It's not uncommon for monsters to cross the 3k barriar though due to Wizards 1k boost monster other things, Killing the ships is easy enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Pendulums are a pretty viable deck right now, between Reptier which can make Laggia/Dolkka, the 2 Performapal scales searchable by Feral Imp, Snowcone+Luster which is more or less an autowin and the general ability to put of big boards quickly and win with Trapeze while being able to out ships with Ignister and Dolkka and some other stuff the deck has a lot of options and consistency while being powerful enough to beat other top decks. There's also Majespecter variants which I'd argue are generally a little better, but Pendulums without Majespecters are certainly viable as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Pendulums are a pretty viable deck right now, between Reptier which can make Laggia/Dolkka, the 2 Performapal scales searchable by Feral Imp, Snowcone+Luster which is more or less an autowin and the general ability to put of big boards quickly and win with Trapeze while being able to out ships with Ignister and Dolkka and some other stuff the deck has a lot of options and consistency while being powerful enough to beat other top decks. There's also Majespecter variants which I'd argue are generally a little better, but Pendulums without Majespecters are certainly viable as well.TCG builds running GUB into Nat Beast yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 TCG builds running GUB into Nat Beast yet?There's so few spells you want to lock these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 There's so few spells you want to lock these days.P scales Also you can sidetrack into Trish to kill a ugly dark destroyer "Lavaval is the problem" they said....honestly intrigued how people are making the deck work without Clash, Monkeboard, wizard, (Crobat?) or Ariadne Like I've said it before Shock is just a finisher but TCG seems to be lacking the whole damn engine My honest opinion? Find Room for Bulb, 141 and Soul Charge...cards cannot go amiss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 There's so few spells you want to lock these days.Durendal + Nat Beast autowins vs Specter/Mirror/KozmoContext is post DOCS pre Master of Pendulum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Durendal + Nat Beast autowins vs Specter/Mirror/KozmoWonder if TCG will really let 3 IF Ptolo and CDI live in one format Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 So I've done a bunch of laddering/watching on DN as well as playing IRL and I've got a pretty good idea at this point of what is good and what isn't, so here's the new tier list I am proposing. Again, it's not certain and never will be but I certainly think there is substance to it. Tier 1: Kozmo - The best deck, still, for now, but it's certainly beatable by any of the other decks on this list with a decent bit of luck/clever card choices. People are going to discover new ways to beat them (Cyber Dragon Core didn't see all that much play until recently because Cyber Dragon was a better Towers out, however Core's ability to get rid of multiple ships makes it very valuable indeed, and people will find all kinds of other techs). I'm not sure they'll be as dominant as we saw them be at YCS San Jose, but they sure are the best deck. Majespecter - They're really good, especially with Performages as well. They're consistent, their t1 board is often very difficult to get past without leaving yourself open to a pendulum summon the next turn and with Performages they can more or less autowin with Snowcone + Luster. They're pretty easy to side against, but they're similar to last format's Qliphort in the sense that they'll probably win game 1 so you're relying on equally balanced luck games 2 and 3. Infernoid - This came 2nd at Indianapolis Regional which as I understand is about the size of the nationals of most European countries. I've been testing a similar version (an extra Antra over a Harmadik because everyone on DN plays BA for some reason and some tweaks to the side and extra) and it really is capable of consistently beating Kozmo. Turtle is a massive boost to the deck because one of its weaknesses has always been taking too much damage from Kozmo or Pendulums before it can then summon a bunch of big monsters and turn the game around. It's also a 4 for Dweller and other stuff like that. I'm pretty convinced that Infernoid are a viable tier 1 deck at this point and if it was 2 months and not 3 weeks before Lille I'd be making them because I really like the way the deck plays. Lightsworn - If you have £600 to spend on a Minerva, they're an incredibly consistent and powerful deck. but yeah Pendulums - Not sure about this one yet, but they certainly have the power and consistency that make a top deck. They can OTK ridiculously easy with Trapeze and have all kinds of extra deck options. If you're wondering what a typical Pendulum deck looks like, it's something like this- Tier 2: Burning Abyss - They're still about as good at grind games as they used to be, the difference now is that it's more difficult to get really strong t1 plays going with 2 less Graff to draw. They also still have plenty of backrow to prolong games and get into the grindy state they want to be in. Yes, they struggle with Infernoid and Kozmo but other than that they are a solid deck. Tellarknights - Same old same old, just with less chance of opening Deneb. Yang Zing - They have good matchups against the top decks other than Majespecter and even those they can floodgate out of the duel. Floodgates are obviously important to the deck but it has all kinds of merits on its own - Baxia is a massive threat and often an autowin if dropped, they're incredibly resilient in a format lacking much to deal with floaters bar Dweller and Majespecter Tornado and, well, floodgates. HERO - Possibly? They certainly have their merits but suck ass when they can't make Dark Law/Dark Law is answered successfully. Tier 3: There's too many to count. In terms of decks capable of taking wins off the big boys at a fairly consistent rate if played well the format might be even more open than last format. The list of possible decks includes, but is not limited to-NekrozProphecyMadolcheIgknightFluffalGreyjuGeargiaSynchrons (but hardly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 thoughts on Shaddolls with the Kycoo DMOC Magical Dimension plays Maje will be a jabroni, but Kozmo and Infernoids have little to no answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted November 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 So uh, we all in agreement with the current list up there or any big changes that need to be implemented? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 So uh, we all in agreement with the current list up there or any big changes that need to be implemented?Think Shaddoll need to be higher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Stop hyping trap dolls, the dek sucks because the inherent issue with the deck is that most of their power lies in 2-3 card combos and constructs ban as the best shaddoll fusion makes makes that investment a waste of time as without fusion spells you are playing with vanillas (maybe trains because their Superior Dora is actually good and the trains can replace themselves). Traps won't solve that. If you want a trap deck play BA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Stop hyping trap dolls, the dek sucks because the inherent issue with the deck is that most of their power lies in 2-3 card combos and constructs ban as the best shaddoll fusion makes makes that investment a waste of time as without fusion spells you are playing with vanillas (maybe trains because their Superior Dora is actually good and the trains can replace themselves). Traps won't solve that. If you want a trap deck play BABut they've topped and Kycoo is so good against the meta :/ I guess it's all good then Chronofacts post BOSH need to be very high tier 1. Floodgate.dek ft Infinity has gone head to head against full power OCG pepe. And Duster isn't a problem here. Still doubting TCG will let Ptolo-Inf become a thing, but we'll see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 http://articles.alterealitygames.com/arg-circuit-series-anaheim-top-16-decklists/ Hey look, every one of but only the decks I said are top tier made up the top 16 of ARG Anaheim. Interesting to see how well-represented Pendulums are, watch this space as to which deck ends up being the best deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 I see Doomstar being mentioned a lot. Is it a ruse or something actualy legit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 All this talk about Cyber Dragon Core got me wondering on something: wouldn't it be possible to build a Kozmo variant that goes as as far as maining a Cyber Dragon engine, including Cyber Power Plants to search for Forerunners and Slipriders?The engine could also increase the opportunities for dropping Cyber Dragon Infinity, but I guess this belongs to a different topic since things should change noticeably once BOSH is released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted November 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Apparently Fluffals are tier 3..... After seeing a match against Kozmo, it might actually be possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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