Number 100: Numeron Dragon

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

I really hope so. Same rank would make sense. Cause 100 is the fusion of 107 and 62 right?

[shadowsapex]

Yes! Number 100! It finally got released!

Ack, why you so bad? ;(

Man, I can't believe that they not only made it infinitely worse than the anime version (which wasn't even broken except for the s/t returning effect), they took out it's most defining characteristic: special summoning itself from the extra deck when you're attacked on an empty field. I was going to run this in my Exodia deck!

And it's second most defining characteristic! Reducing everything that battles it to 0! Why did they remove that?

And they changed the summoning condition to a totally impossible one. I can literally think of no deck that can summon this. Not Utopia. Not Raidraptors. Come on, I wanted to use this in my Rank 1 deck!

 

Idk about you guys by the amount of basic grammar errors in the effect makes me think it was a bit rushed in translation. Cuz lore wise I really don't understand why the two numbers need the same name. That makes literally no sense in the context of zexal, unless we are considering the "treat this card as 2 materials" effects.

Maybe it still needs to be cleaned up

I can't read the material requirements; the page is too blurry and I don't understand Japanese very well. I really hope it's a mistranslation.

[Arctic55]

I would NEVER run this.  I hate running cards that are hard to get out, because unless you can do it fast, you rarely get to do it.  Consistency.  This is just WAY too hard to get out, I don't give a penny what its effect is.  I have a hard time keeping 1 Xyz floating, much less 2 AND with numbers in their name, that is pretty specific.  Two thumbs down.

 

Note: I did not read the other comments before typing this.

[Βyakuya]

The requirement for this card's summon is a huge hurdle that has a somewhat high cost investment (needing 2 same Rank AND Name at once). And not only that, even if you get this bastard out, the payoff with the main effect is severely underwhelming. I'm not sure what kind of Number spam deck can abuse it, probably with Number 93, but other than that, it's a huge letdown from the anime.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

The requirement for this card's summon is a huge hurdle that has a somewhat high cost investment (needing 2 same Rank AND Name at once). And not only that, even if you get this bastard out, the payoff with the main effect is severely underwhelming. I'm not sure what kind of Number spam deck can abuse it, probably with Number 93, but other than that, it's a huge letdown from the anime.

2 101? Eat then overlay

[BlackBeartic]

So.... does it lose 2 xyz material for the first eff? lmao.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Dark Matter lock with this card and Chaos Emperor, it's a surefire way to secure that you win the Top Deck

 

Dark Matter 1+ Dark Matter 2->#100

 

CED Nuke, you should be able to set up arkbraves and stall the topdeck till you can win again

 

 

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

CED+100 still works though

[Βyakuya]

I also checked again with 93 and it says it summons Numbers with different names. Yeah this card is a major letdown.

[evilfusion]

Honestly, the only thing genuinely terrible about this card is the Summon Condition, and PURELY because it requires Numbers of the same name, which is nonsensical and impractical.

 

And even then, you could still run it in Utopia spam. It's just so weird because it's the only Number-related support card that references the possibility of multiple copies of a Number even existing. I feel it'd make more sense to require Numbers of the same Rank (S0 does this approach in addition to the "ditch RUM with Utopia" method).

 

I guess they're really wary of this card being godly good or something? Because admittedly, the "detach 1 to boost by 1000 x all Ranks" is REALLY scary. It counts both Fields and we all know how Xyz spam Decks love the spam spam. This thing can easily hit 5k if not OTK levels of ATK.

[Jord200]

Honestly, the only thing genuinely terrible about this card is the Summon Condition, and PURELY because it requires Numbers of the same name, which is nonsensical and impractical.

 

And even then, you could still run it in Utopia spam. It's just so weird because it's the only Number-related support card that references the possibility of multiple copies of a Number even existing. I feel it'd make more sense to require Numbers of the same Rank (S0 does this approach in addition to the "ditch RUM with Utopia" method).

 

I guess they're really wary of this card being godly good or something? Because admittedly, the "detach 1 to boost by 1000 x all Ranks" is REALLY scary. It counts both Fields and we all know how Xyz spam Decks love the spam spam. This thing can easily hit 5k if not OTK levels of ATK.

 

 

Hilariously, Godly is technically what this thing was, wasn't it? I've repressed Zexal memeories due to how shitty it was.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

2 “Number” Xyz Monsters you control with the same Name and Rank

 

That's Redundant 

[VCR_CAT]

2 “Number” Xyz Monsters you control with the same Name and Rank

 

That's Redundant 

 

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Number_69:_Heraldry_Crest

 

Practical? No. But, it does show that if you want a design to be airtight, it's gotta be airtight.

[evilfusion]

Good point. I had been wondering about the "name and Rank" thing, but it should also be noted that Xiangsheng Magician exists, so there DO exist effects that modify Rank. It also follows the rules about Xyz, that the Materials' Levels/Ranks need to match.

 

Numeron Dragon is also unique in that it's the only Xyz Monster that explicitly requires Xyz Monsters as Material, but doesn't have a printed Rank of 0. Presumably, this is for anime consistency since Numeron Dragon's card was a Rank 1, not a Rank 0.

 

Now I really want to build a Utopia spam Deck just to see how this card functions, but discovered that this seems a LOT harder than it looks because of how much Utopia support exists, and how most Rank 4 spam Decks function better without the focus on Utopia. Raidraptor seems like the best bet, seeing as they run RUM and spam Rank 4s, but...

[Jord200]

Its like they want people to use Number 39, despite the fact it is just so damn overdone and everyone is sick of it.

[VCR_CAT]

The deck that can use this best is one that can summon 3 like-Xyz monsters in one turn, or at least hold onto multiple Xyz monsters of the same type/name.

 

Because it pertains to my particular branding, Trains can use this, but they really shouldn't. Numeron just doesn't have a place in that deck, since 35 offers all the beatdown action I'll ever need, as well as all the nuke action I'll ever need. I would need 2 Number monsters of the same name/rank, which means either 35 or 81; but if I have 2 or more of those guys each, I should already have won anyways.

 

R4 seems like the best candidate to use this, in terms of swarming, value, and the overall need for a beatstick and nuke. It's just that yeah, dang, it takes a lot of effort.

 

Interesting to note, if a deck is able to revive a Number R4, such as Heraldics, then they can make this a lot more easily.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Its like they want people to use Number 39, despite the fact it is just so damn overdone and everyone is sick of it.

Most people do run number 39! :3

The deck that can use this best is one that can summon 3 like-Xyz monsters in one turn, or at least hold onto multiple Xyz monsters of the same type/name.

 

Because it pertains to my particular branding, Trains can use this, but they really shouldn't. Numeron just doesn't have a place in that deck, since 35 offers all the beatdown action I'll ever need, as well as all the nuke action I'll ever need. I would need 2 Number monsters of the same name/rank, which means either 35 or 81; but if I have 2 or more of those guys each, I should already have won anyways.

 

R4 seems like the best candidate to use this, in terms of swarming, value, and the overall need for a beatstick and nuke. It's just that yeah, dang, it takes a lot of effort.

 

Interesting to note, if a deck is able to revive a Number R4, such as Heraldics, then they can make this a lot more easily.

Still Felgrand, instead of 1 107 and 1 62, you run two of both. Soul Charge, Reborn, REDMD, make it work. 

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Number_69:_Heraldry_Crest

 

Practical? No. But, it does show that if you want a design to be airtight, it's gotta be airtight.

Can you run through the scenario where you'd wanna use that effect to make 100 easily? I'm not seeing it, but there might be something? Star Seraphs?

[VCR_CAT]

Can you run through the scenario where you'd wanna use that effect to make 100 easily? I'm not seeing it, but there might be something? Star Seraphs?

 

Well, it's not practical at all, like I said. It's just to show that they had an ideal method of summoning 100, but there are ways around it being just name, so they put in the extra effort to make the design more airtight.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Well, it's not practical at all, like I said. It's just to show that they had an ideal method of summoning 100, but there are ways around it being just name, so they put in the extra effort to make the design more airtight.

Maybe, still think the V-Jump just dun goof and messed up the effect. Which they have been know to do

[Jord200]

Most people do run number 39! :3

 

 

 

No, I mean a deck SPECIFICALLY run around the damn thing.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

No, I mean a deck SPECIFICALLY run around the damn thing.

They do! It's the best way to summon UTL ;)

[vla1ne]

the issue is that it's too airtight isn't it? the card has too many restrictions for the power it holds, if it had said 2 number monsters in general it would have been too easy, but then why not leave it at 2 number monsters with the same rank instead of throwing in name? really, this has to be some kind of screw-up, because this card's nowhere near good enough to have a summoning condition this restrictive. there's no feasible way to summon this that would be worth the level of investment, and any deck that can feasibly summon him can already put out mountains of better monsters instead of wasting time on this thing.

 

the only other way i can see it being remotely worth summoning is by using 2 shamoji soldiers (the R1 number monster that only takes 2 mats) and even then, any deck that can drop 2 shamoji soldiers is likely going to struggle to make him worth the effort you used to put him down in the first place.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

the issue is that it's too airtight isn't it? the card has too many restrictions for the power it holds, if it had said 2 number monsters in general it would have been too easy, but then why not leave it at 2 number monsters with the same rank instead of throwing in name? really, this has to be some kind of screw-up, because this card's nowhere near good enough to have a summoning condition this restrictive. there's no feasible way to summon this that would be worth the level of investment, and any deck that can feasibly summon him can already put out mountains of better monsters instead of wasting time on this thing.

 

the only other way i can see it being remotely worth summoning is by using 2 shamoji soldiers (the R1 number monster that only takes 2 mats) and even then, any deck that can drop 2 shamoji soldiers is likely going to struggle to make him worth the effort you used to put him down in the first place.

Again, you have to wear a different lens while looking at this card.

 

OCG made it first, they have their banlist in mind.

 

With that being said, Blue-Eyes/Felgrand will be a meta deck in the April format. They usually run 2 lv 8 galaxy dragons for Dark Matter, all one has to do now is to run 2 of the same name. With Soul Charge Reborn and that ilk legal, you can pretty easily get 2 8's out.

 

At which point #100+chaos emperor is a win condition

[Blake]

There is no point to this card. CED isn't a good argument when it requires summoning this an entire turn early to work with it, and then you just have a mediocre lock that says "Why are you too stupid to spin Numeron instead of poking at it" or "They've already lost tbh".

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

There is no point to this card. CED isn't a good argument when it requires summoning this an entire turn early to work with it, and then you just have a mediocre lock that says "Why are you too stupid to spin Numeron instead of poking at it" or "They've already lost tbh".

Not to nitpick black, but CED only says you cannot activate effects. You could pretty easily chain something like CoTH in their EP to get back a 62/107 and summon 100, then CED Nuke for the lock. Shrine keeps the lock intact but also would create a situation where you can get back presence with Arkbrave. Maybe I'm overhyping it, but I think you're being a tad too dismissive