~~~~ Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Moonlight effect:If this card is Special Summoned, or a Level 5 or higher monster(s) is Special Summoned to your opponent's side of the field: Target 1 Special Summoned monster your opponent controls; return that target to the hand. You can only use this effect of "Black Rose Moonlight Dragon" once per turn. Zeta effect:Once per turn, during either player's turn: You can target 1 Special Summoned monster your opponent controls in face-up Attack Position; banish both that monster and this card from the field, but return them in your next Standby Phase. If this card is in your Graveyard: You can target 1 other "PSY-Frame" card in your Graveyard; return this card to the Extra Deck, and if you do, add that target to your hand. So these two cards are rather similar. They are both level 7 non-WIND Synchros (relevant for Speedroids) that have an effect to temporally remove an opponent's monster. These cards are so similar infact, that I don't think I should run both. I have switched between them, but whenever I use one, I curse its downsides compared to the other and wish I was running the other card instead. But which card do you think is better? Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellringer Angel Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Probably Moonlight, since Zeta only banish Special Summoned Attack Position monsters (temporarily), and also banish itself (temporarily). Zeta is quite good against Xyz monsters tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 There are definitely upsides and downsides to both, Moonlight makes them able to re-Summon it, making it a temporary fix, but it does stay on the field, Zeta can take it out for as long as it can keep itself banished, and makes re-Summoning it a bit harder. Zeta is able to be more protective as well, as it's a Quick Effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQuitDolphin Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Moonlight is better in a reactive use than a proactive use since it is an actual out to the said card and gets rid of any problem cards without losing out on a 2400 body.Zeta is better as a proactive use as it can hit more problem cards during the opponent's turn as well as have more versatility since it isn't mandatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Bigest problem with Moonlight: it's a mandatory trigger effect. The opponent can bait it. Zeta being an optional quick effect is huge. That said, Moonlight has the more supported Type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 well... if you happen to run 2 zeta, you can use the effect of one to recycle both, so there's that. past that though, IMO, moonlight has the better "on summon" effect for a push, while zeta has the better effect if you want to stop your opponent from pushing. so i'd say it depends on the deck you run and how you want your extra deck to balance it. if your deck can already rack up damage fast, probably go for zeta, if it's already more defensive, go for moonlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Moonlight is better in a reactive use than a proactive use since it is an actual out to the said card and gets rid of any problem cards without losing out on a 2400 body.Zeta is better as a proactive use as it can hit more problem cards during the opponent's turn as well as have more versatility since it isn't mandatory. ^^ Dolphin here knows the joys of being faced with Winda-Moonlight ;) Moonlight sole problem is it's has too many conditions all lump'd together Manditory& Targets& only Lv5& only 1 Vs PK Fire Zeta would likely serve you better, vs Blue Eyes Moonlight would serve you better VS Kozmo, might as well start crying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 While both have their merits, I'm going to have to say I prefer PSY-Framelord Zeta. It's ATK is 2500, which may be put aside if Moonlight's effect was better. However, Zeta is capable of banishing as opposed to returning, and you have a choice to activate it. Plus, it's not as conditional. And whether or not this seems like much, at laso doesn't have a strict "Once per turn" clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 you also have zeta's art looking like a boss where moonlight is just a meh dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted April 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 While both have their merits, I'm going to have to say I prefer PSY-Framelord Zeta. It's ATK is 2500, which may be put aside if Moonlight's effect was better. However, Zeta is capable of banishing as opposed to returning, and you have a choice to activate it. Plus, it's not as conditional. And whether or not this seems like much, at laso doesn't have a strict "Once per turn" clause.To play Devil's advocate, Zeta is more conditional, because you only really use Moonlight for the on Summon effect. Being able to hit things in defence position is useful. Anyway, in my deck, I'm running Crystal Wing, which makes Moonlight a bit more useful because it's a good ladder synchro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 To play Devil's advocate, Zeta is more conditional, because you only really use Moonlight for the on Summon effect. Being able to hit things in defence position is useful. Anyway, in my deck, I'm running Crystal Wing, which makes Moonlight a bit more useful because it's a good ladder synchro.I said I prefer; not which is better. I have used Moonlight before, but it's return effect is usually pretty lackluster (at least when I used it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted April 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 I said I prefer; not which is better. I have used Moonlight before, but it's return effect is usually pretty lackluster (at least when I used it).k i asked which is better! I want discussion! EDIT: better under which circumstances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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