The Cancer Known As Modern Feminism Continues To Spread. Thanks Rose McGowan!

[Arctic55]

I do not own this video, just wanted to know what you guys thought about this.  'Cause, he makes some valid arguments.

[Dad]

funk that chick.  She couldn't see the funking movie for what it was.  Nooooooooooo.  It's not a Mutant trying to kill everyone.  It's a promotion for violence against women!  Shut the funk up.

[mido9]

Do they just go out and look for things to be upset at, or something?

[Shalltear Bloodfallen]

Let me just get this in. This is the type of content that never stops to dissapoint me every time it's made.

Because I dont think she genuinely thinks what she said. She did it to get attention, to get "positive" PR.

 

As for the thing itself, I'm sorry but I dont know what you're smoking if you, not only focus only on it, but make it seem if it's a man strangling a woman, when it's clearly meant to express the villany of Apocalypse by having him strangle a "fellow" mutant.

Because if you wanna talk sexism, why dont you start with the fact that Mystique is basicly wearing littlerally nothing 9/10 times she appears in a movie

 

Do they just go out and look for things to be upset at, or something?

Most dont, but for the militant ones like this, I'd say if it's not the case, then it deffinetely looks like it

[ÆƵ–]

News flash! Modern feminism isn't what this thing is describing!

 

Feminism is the term used for equality among the sexes, and is named as such because back when it was coined, women were treated a lot worse than they were now. 

 

So no, this video isn't about modern feminism. If anything, I believe it to be about straw feminism. 

[Snatch Steal]

News flash! Modern feminism isn't what this thing is describing!

 

Feminism is the term used for equality among the sexes, and is named as such because back when it was coined, women were treated a lot worse than they were now. 

 

So no, this video isn't about modern feminism. If anything, I believe it to be about straw feminism. 

 

I love how people try to call something modern feminism because it's about women and it's happening now.

 

If a Muslim person robbed a bank, would you say it's an act of terrorism? Probably not, since you'd be labeled a racist.

 

Not to mention, this guy obviously has some great ethos. "Skibbidybopbebop" followed by an explosion. How insightful. I'm certain everyone is convinced you are quite a prophet.

 

...holy funk, though, I can see why someone could be offset by the billboard. "Only the strong will survive." So the girl who "doesn't wear clothes 9/10 times in the movie" is getting choked by a big, strONG MAN!!!!! I guess it's a superhero movie, and hey, girls are tough, but it's a portrayal of a woman helpless at the hands of a male figure captioned with "only the strong will survive," implying that Mystique's lack of "strength" entails she's not good enough.

I mean, obviously this is an overanalysis, and we're probably lucky to get any female representation, but hey, still bothersome.

 

Casual violence. casual violence. what does that even mean. It's a superhero movie. She's a superhero. Regardless of gender, if there are superheroes and villains, made to fight, there will be a portrayal of violence. 

 

Okay, I agree with the black guy and white guy thing, but you can't portray a person as gay without being horrendously obvious, so that's an argument hole. 

 

Not to destroy a fellow feminist, but...why? Why not get offended by women being raped and beaten in the real world?

 

Mm, the women directors thing is sorta savage, at least.

 

And the rest is a neckbeard ranting, so that's fine. Thanks.

[Arctic55]

I love how people try to call something modern feminism because it's about women and it's happening now.

 

If a Muslim person robbed a bank, would you say it's an act of terrorism? Probably not, since you'd be labeled a racist.

 

Not to mention, this guy obviously has some great ethos. "Skibbidybopbebop" followed by an explosion. How insightful. I'm certain everyone is convinced you are quite a prophet.

 

...holy f***, though, I can see why someone could be offset by the billboard. "Only the strong will survive." So the girl who "doesn't wear clothes 9/10 times in the movie" is getting choked by a big, strONG MAN!!!!! I guess it's a superhero movie, and hey, girls are tough, but it's a portrayal of a woman helpless at the hands of a male figure captioned with "only the strong will survive," implying that Mystique's lack of "strength" entails she's not good enough.

I mean, obviously this is an overanalysis, and we're probably lucky to get any female representation, but hey, still bothersome.

 

Casual violence. casual violence. what does that even mean. It's a superhero movie. She's a superhero. Regardless of gender, if there are superheroes and villains, made to fight, there will be a portrayal of violence. 

 

Okay, I agree with the black guy and white guy thing, but you can't portray a person as gay without being horrendously obvious, so that's an argument hole. 

 

Not to destroy a fellow feminist, but...why? Why not get offended by women being raped and beaten in the real world?

 

Mm, the women directors thing is sorta savage, at least.

 

And the rest is a neckbeard ranting, so that's fine. Thanks.

I have no idea what the point was here, but I feel like it was to start an argument.

 

Now, why choose Mystique as the one being choked out by Apocalypse?  Because she is a well known character, the actor playing her is famous, she has been the bases of much controversy (thus boosting her known level by the general public), and it probably happens in the movie.  That would be like choosing Superman over Static Shock in a billboard.  Honestly, if I was working for Fox, and I was gonna choose the character choked by Apocalypes, it would be Mysitque or Wolverine because of public awareness alone.  So people need to stop reading the hell into stuff, or creativity is gonna start dying because of Political Correctness.

[Snatch Steal]

I have no idea what the point was here, but I feel like it was to start an argument.

 

What else is misc for? :^)

 

TIL Never make observations

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

This is Misandry and stupidity, not feminism

[Halubaris Maphotika]

Feminism is the term used for equality among the sexes, and is named as such because back when it was coined, women were treated a lot worse than they were now. 

No, Feminism is for Women's Rights and Women's Rights alone.

 

Belief in equality among the sexes is called Egalitarianism.

[Susie]

News flash! Modern feminism isn't what this thing is describing!

 

Feminism is the term used for equality among the sexes, and is named as such because back when it was coined, women were treated a lot worse than they were now. 

 

So no, this video isn't about modern feminism. If anything, I believe it to be about straw feminism. 

 

People use the term modern feminism to differentiate what youre talking about with what Rose McGowan is doing. People like to use the term modern feminism since a lot of the crazies who think theyre feminists have been coming up in the modern world (Or at least it feels like that with media exposure and all that). I will say that straw feminism is a far better term to use though.

[vla1ne]

yeah, 6:45 sums up his point. regardless of "no true scotsman", it's not equality rose is arguing for, and it's not even womens' rights, because they already have equal, if not higher rights, it's just censorship that she's arguing for. kinda sad to see paige fall this far down the rabbit hole. 

[ÆƵ–]

No, Feminism is for Women's Rights and Women's Rights alone.

 

Belief in equality among the sexes is called Egalitarianism.

 

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/feminism

 

: the belief that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities

 

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/egalitarianism

 

:  a belief in human equality especially with respect to social, political, and economic affairs

 

Pls at least google your shiit before trying to correct me. Feminism is specific to the sexes, while egalitblahblah is a more vauge term for all other equality-isms combined into one.

[vla1ne]

dictionary? 

 

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/feminism

 

: the belief that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities

 

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/egalitarianism

 

:  a belief in human equality especially with respect to social, political, and economic affairs

 

Pls at least google your shiit before trying to correct me. Feminism is specific to the sexes, while egalitblahblah is a more vauge term for all other equality-isms combined into one.

uh, dude, human rights is equality of the sexes by default. it's also equality of race, opportunity, class and all other manner of things. in other words, egalitarianism is equality on all fronts, including gender. halu's not wrong, he simply has a broader spectrum under his definition. it's not like women and men aren't human.

 

as a side note, why is it called feminism if it's meant for both sexes? from your own definition:

  organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interests

 

just saying, if you want to go by the dictionary, then feminism is more specific to women.

 

but besides all that, the genders are already equal in the first world.

[ÆƵ–]

dictionary?

 

uh, dude, human rights is equality of the sexes by default. it's also equality of race, opportunity, class and all other manner of things. in other words, egalitarianism is equality on all fronts, including gender. halu's not wrong, he simply has a broader spectrum under his definition. it's not like women and men aren't human.

 

as a side note, why is it called feminism if it's meant for both sexes? from your own definition:

organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interests

 

just saying, if you want to go by the dictionary, then feminism is more specific to women.

 

but besides all that, the genders are already equal in the first world.

For why it's called feminism: see my first post.

 

For why the difference between egalitarianism and feminism is important: do you know what the difference between black lives matter and all lives matter is? One refers to a specific group, while the other while still encompassing the first, is making it so that it isn't as important of a point as the first statement does.

 

I'm the equality in the first world: the wage gap still exists, despite what the mainstream media tells us. That, and women are still treated as objects or unimportant or not as able as men by a lot of media. If the average person hears that a woman sleeps around, they might think the girl a slut it whore. If you here the same about a man, one would probably think them to be a stud or a womanizer or somesuch thing. The terms associated with the woman are negative while the terms for the man are considered positive. This is an example of casual sexism in the first world. Yes, these things are changing, but atm, things are still not perfectly equal.

[vla1ne]

this response is so short in comparison to what i want to say that i cannot post it without feeling the need to notify you that i have left out the full extent of how wrong you are.
 
[spoiler=well. i suppose i also had too much time on my hands today]
 
"For why it's called feminism: see my first post."
 
your first post does nothing for me. modern feminism has no use in the first world because women are on equal ground already to men. womens' rights advocates are what you appear to be looking for, but they're occupied in the countries that actually need womens' rights. the first world is already equal and if you happen to live there, as your later listed "problem" suggests, then you are whining about literally nothing, modern feminist narrative is merely hiding behind the dictionary while it attempts to make women attain more rights and opportunities than men. the scales already in favor of women, modern feminism often prevents said scales from ever balancing the argument, and instead, many of the arguments are simply attempts to let women retain the rights, without many of the responsibilities that come with them. please name any advantage that men have that women do not in modern society.
 
 
"For why the difference between egalitarianism and feminism is important:..."
 
exactly how does that decrease the importance of the group in any way? all lives matter encompasses black lives and or female lives just as much as black lives matter or feminism does, and it still encourages respect towards black people an women as equal human beings. it simply remembers that all lives deserve respect. black lives matter has demonstrably caused harm to the black community, and causes more racial divides under a false guise of police brutality. i have seen many a video of how black lives matter supporters act in relation to race based subjects, (not to mention hw they act in relation to rallys that they don't agree with) and i am not impressed. i believe all lives matter, and the things that i have seen out of the BLM community do nothing to help further the black cause. in fact, the constant victim narrative has become even worse. it's a nice name, and a nice proclaimed cause, but when the actions don't match the words, the words mean nothing at all. the same goes for modern feminism. it hides behind the dictionary, and when the actions of those who claim to be feminists is called out for the s*** that it is, the people who refused to call out the branches before more rational parties came along swiftly decide that the branches aren't a part of the tree. news flash, the people you see pulling fire alarms, beating up trump supporters, causing public and private property damage, screaming obscenities and the like at those who disagree, interrupting peaceful assemblies with violence, and all other manner of ignorance, are no less feminists than you, or the people who hide behind the dictionary. they are what modern feminism is becoming, you either can face it and put it in line, or you can act like the Scotsman who doesn't eat his porridge with milk doesn't exist. it's not made of straw when it's your most vocal denomination.
 
 
 
"the wage gap still exists, despite what the mainstream media tells us."
 
 
no. the mainstream media is the one perpetuating the wage gap myth if you haven't noticed, you are so wrong here that i can find little, if any humor in pointing out the flaws. first and foremost,thanks to the equal pay act of 1963. paying women less, for the same work, is literally illegal (in america,  will not speak for other countries, but considering 1963 was a long time ago, i assume common sense would prod the other first world countries into doing the same.) in other words, as far as wage gap from employers paying their workers less based upon gender, there is no gap, because if you could pay less for the same work, why would you pay more? and if you pay less for the same work, you can get sued hard af. now, with that out the way, the actual reasons for what you see in that gap come into play.
1) overtime. the wage gap is the difference in money EARNED, not money given, it is a fact that men put in more overtime when in the same jobs as women, so the week to week pay is going to be higher for men, because men spend more time in the office.
 
2) ma/paternity leave. women use it more often than men do (childbirth and such), and as a result, they lose out on things like employment advances, pay raises, potential business deals, ect, meaning men, and even women who don't have children, will have a significantly higher pay grade than those who take advantage of said leave. the people who stay are simply going to earn more money. it's that simple
 
3) time spent working, different from overtime, this factors in how long employees have worked for their companies, and how much money they have gotten the companies during their duration working. men and women who do not raise children, or men and women who go in for overtime, will have a far higher wage yearly than those who do decide to take time off for kids, or who don't take on extra hours, and with that, your wage gap disappears once more.
 
 
"women are still treated as objects or unimportant or not as able as men by a lot of media"
 
no women are not treated as objects, they are treated as humans, no sane man wants to marry or talk to a vase, they want to marry and talk to a human being. in advertisements, people put women in the ad so that they can get guys into the shop. the object is what they're selling, the attractive human next to it is what they're using to pull you in. [spoiler=and by the way]

 
tell me again how it's only women being objectified? name 2 men you know who can live up to those appearances? women are not disposable, nor are they objects, they are valued far above men in first world countries as evidenced by how many laws are strictly in favor of women, in fact, you can't even accuse a woman of rape in the UK, because the definition on the books does not include women. the loophole there is so damn large you could fly a contradiction through it. in fact, who cares when a man gets shot in a war? when a male cop is beaten to death, when a man is raped? men are considered the more disposable sex by society in many of the more dangerous areas, men often have to take more s*** on a daily basis (literally if they work in a sewer), and don't even let me get into the s*** that goes down in family courts. "women being objects" is nowhere near as accurate as "men being disposable/wallets" look both ways before trying to spot the dissonance.
 
 
 
"If the average person hears that a woman sleeps around, they might think the girl a slut it whore. If you here the same about a man, one would probably think them to be a stud or a womanizer or somesuch thing." 
 
women have the children, in other words, they have, hands down, the more valuable ability so far as continuing the human race goes. now let me point out the dissonance; when there is no relationship, (as i assume you mean with your statement) the woman can sleep with whomever she wishes, and and most men will not berate her for it. because it is her body, she has the autonomy to do so, and those men likely either want to sleep with her as well, or they don't care one way or another(unless it's a unrequited crush, but that goes both ways male<->female, so i'm leaving it alone for now). in fact, women are more likely to berate a woman for sleeping around than a man is, so the sexism there is often moot, because it is the same sex more often than not crying "slut". rarely have i heard a man use a phrase like "slut" as a derogatory term unless he caught something from the woman, in which case, it's a fair comment. i know a fair share of women who have casual sex, and i know enough average guys that from my experience, and what i see in statistical studies, i can say (in general) that men don't look down on women who have sex, they look down on women who have unprotected sex, and catch s*** from it (and vice versa).
 
now, on the other hand, men who are single have to put in a ton of work to get with as many women as a woman can men. which is why men, even if they don't approve of the action, acknowledge the effort required to pull it off. i can't speak for how women view such an action, because i don't hang around enough "players" to have gotten a female view on it. in this case, i cannot exactly comment, because i would need more info, but from what i know, it seems accurate.
 
now we move onto the next stage of your comment, i don't think you meant this when you said it, but let's take it into relationships now shall we? since ladies went first last time, it's only fair we start with the male dissonance:
 
men do not get anything upon cheating in a relationship. in fact, they lose the respect of friends and peers, and often get the esteemed titles of scumbag and or piece of s*** (or steaming pile of s***). so there is no active benefit there. on the next level, if a man calls the cops on a woman that he is in a relationship with, to get her out of his home, for whatever reason, it is often he who is removed from the home instead of the woman in question. if that's not an advantage for women, i don't know what is. and again, i could take this to the stage of marriage, but i think you get the point
as for women, when a woman cheats in a relationship, there are quite a few instances in which they have justified it to the sounds of thunderous applause. in fact, there's a massive assortment of songs and stories about that very thing, all of them being justified by the man not being worthy or some other such excuse. and in the case of them calling the cops on their significant other, no matter what they have done, it is again, the man, who is dragged out of the house. that is one of the largest advantages i can think of, being immune to police scrutiny.
 
but since we're on the subject of sexual adventures and advantages within society, let's talk rape; how many men do you know who can get away with a false rape charge/have gotten away with false rape charges? any? no? then let's go one easier, how many women do you know who have gotten actual convictions on false rape allegations? i can name quite a few, and even the ones who failed, often ruin the lives of the people they accuse. how many "disadvantaged" people throughout history could pull off something like that? no slave in their right mind would put up a false rape allegation against their master, no servant would accuse their master of anything similar and expect to be believed with no evidence. not one rational human being, in this day and age, should believe that women are not equal to men, when they have advantages that no man could dream of, and the negatives are so minor that they pale in comparison to the disadvantages of men. your wage gap has already been destroyed hundreds of times over, your dictionary definition of feminism is obsolete considering women are already completely equal, if not superior to men in practically every legal and social sense of the word, and your beef with what people are called for their sexual exploits is petty at best compared to the s*** men get hit with in the real world. so please, bring me something better than this.