Resident Fascist Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 And for names most likely to be changed for a North American release we have... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 This thing's float is miles better than his counterpart's and that seems odd to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraneMonk Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 This thing's float is miles better than his counterpart's and that seems odd to me.I think each one will have their own way to float. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 This thing's float is miles better than his counterpart's and that seems odd to me.It's better to think of this as they're own deck, where it's most optimal to use other Wyrm Rulers as fodder for the summon. With this in mind the Fire Wyrm Ruler is able to add back one of the Wyrm Rulers used for the summon effectively turning a -2 into a -1. Given how the WIND and EARTH Wyrms can be designe in the future it looks pretty scary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted July 10, 2016 Report Share Posted July 10, 2016 Given how the WIND and EARTH Wyrms can be designe in the future it looks pretty scarybut at the very least, this time it'll be confined to it's own deck if things get out of hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notcleverusername Posted July 10, 2016 Report Share Posted July 10, 2016 but at the very least, this time it'll be confined to it's own deck if things get out of hand.Actually not trueMain thing to keep in mind is that these cards can mainly be useful to turn hand advantage that can't be used (ie no spare Normal Summons, not useful in hand) into grave advantage, and that you don't have to use random Wyrms for the floating effs because you can just use another Wyrm Ruler for them, which would help enable any Wyrm Rulers drawn Floaticastle interaction above is actually quite interesting example because it shows a way to use arbitrary Synchro deck with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted July 10, 2016 Report Share Posted July 10, 2016 Wyrm Rulers the deck could honestly be pretty amazing. Rank 9 replaces the ruler 7 Fire Kings and such can be neat teach. Shame we have to wait 2 more sets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted July 10, 2016 Report Share Posted July 10, 2016 Actually not trueMain thing to keep in mind is that these cards can mainly be useful to turn hand advantage that can't be used (ie no spare Normal Summons, not useful in hand) into grave advantage, and that you don't have to use random Wyrms for the floating effs because you can just use another Wyrm Ruler for them, which would help enable any Wyrm Rulers drawn Floaticastle interaction above is actually quite interesting example because it shows a way to use arbitrary Synchro deck with themtrue, but the sheer synergy won't be as high as dragon rulers.these guys don't plus on their own from your plays unless you follow the instructions to the letter, in addition they don't revive themselves from grave like the dragon rulers , meaning playing infernity style from the grave is not possible. kozmo/dracorulers might become a terrifying thing though. pop two ships to summon, drop two lower level ships/pilots, i can see people making room for dark planet and eclipser just to test it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted July 10, 2016 Report Share Posted July 10, 2016 The main problem with Cloudcastle into a Rank 9 is that the only good Rank 9 is Enterblathnir, and at that point you may as well have Synchro Summoned Trishula rather than Cloudcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted July 10, 2016 Report Share Posted July 10, 2016 The main problem with Cloudcastle into a Rank 9 is that the only good Rank 9 is Enterblathnir, and at that point you may as well have Synchro Summoned Trishula rather than Cloudcastle.This makes 0 sense as this does not take into account scenarios where you'd summon Cloudcastle with two materials at all (Illumi'raj + Pairfish), and even then how is summoning Trishula in its stead unfavorable anyway (I'm aware that you are trying to say that summoning Cloudcastle is comparatively worse than Trish but this is just a matter of having 2 solid options in the deck to choose from). Wyrms have access to an easily tutorable Night Dragolich as a notable feature due its powerful floodgate effect when going 1st or second (through chainbuilding will be guaranteed to get past any form of negation) and its not completely out of the realm of possibility that this deck will be able to back up Night Dragolich with a board. I'm actually surprised how these cards could singlehandedly tie in all this mish-mashed Wyrm support we've been getting (Magma Dragon is less solid, Oarfish is fantastic) and at the very least its making me pay close attention too Wyrm memes in the future. The damage output so far looks high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 These cards are bound to be ridiculous once we get a full set god forbid we get baby dracorulers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 This makes 0 sense as this does not take into account scenarios where you'd summon Cloudcastle with two materials at all (Illumi'raj + Pairfish), and even then how is summoning Trishula in its stead unfavorable anyway (I'm aware that you are trying to say that summoning Cloudcastle is comparatively worse than Trish but this is just a matter of having 2 solid options in the deck to choose from). Wyrms have access to an easily tutorable Night Dragolich as a notable feature due its powerful floodgate effect when going 1st or second (through chainbuilding will be guaranteed to get past any form of negation) and its not completely out of the realm of possibility that this deck will be able to back up Night Dragolich with a board. I'm actually surprised how these cards could singlehandedly tie in all this mish-mashed Wyrm support we've been getting (Magma Dragon is less solid, Oarfish is fantastic) and at the very least its making me pay close attention too Wyrm memes in the future. The damage output so far looks high.Yeah you're right. I forgot about the 2 mat vs 3 mat thing (too much playing Speedroids where you have to use 3 mat either way). However my argument still stands unless you're making Cloudcastle with 2 mats and that that is more efficient (which it almost always would be, but not necessarily always). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 Are there any WATER archetypes that'd benefit from the destruction? I mean discarding is usually WATER's shtick... Yeah, guys, does anybody remember any WATER Deck that could take advantage of the new guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardgameking Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 Yeah, guys, does anybody remember any WATER Deck that could take advantage of the new guy?You could make an argument for Crystrons, as getting the non-tuners in the graveyard means you can activate their effects. Frogs also don't care about the cost and appreciate the body. I suppose Dinomist can use it without any worries. Maybe Graydle? ... The Nimble Archetype? Maybe Super Quants, just to get Blue to the grave more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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