Palezoic Anomalocaris

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3 or more Level 2 monsters

Unaffected by other monsters' effects. Once per turn, if a Trap Card(s) is sent from your Spell & Trap Zone to the Graveyard (except during the Damage Step): You can excavate the top card of your Deck, and if it is a Trap Card, add it to your hand. Otherwise, send it to the Graveyard. Once per turn, during either player's turn, if this card has a Trap Card as Xyz Material: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card, then target 1 card on the field; destroy it.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anomalocaris

 

Now, I used to not be such a fan of this card, but that was before the compulsory trap summons made 3-mats easy. So yeah, I was bored and decided to make this topic just to boast. Anyway, I was playing this 3-way Battle Royal, and one of my opponents overextended to get out Tyrant RDA, RDA Bane and King Calamity. My other opponent (who had several monsters about 4 backrow and scales out) then Castel'd the King Calamity and ended. I made Anomal and popped Bane and ended. My opponent then controlled only Tyrant so without thinking, they used its effect. My other opponent gets wiped and I am fine. I pop Tyrant and basically win the game from there.

 

Discuss this legend

[Slinky]

Except they aren't mandatory. The TCG ruled that all trap effects that activate in the grave are optional, and cited palezoics as examples.

[Toffee.]

The compulsory Summons I still find to be an issue- It has pros and cons, and I'm over that.

 

ANYWAY

 

Anomal is good and all, but I consider Opab to be the true boss of the set, mainly because it lets you activate the fuckin' Burgess' monsters from your hand- Honestly Anomal should have had that effect from the start.

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Except they aren't mandatory. The TCG ruled that all trap effects that activate in the grave are optional, and cited palezoics as examples.

lol my local judge rules it mandatory so that's what I get. If your summons are optional, then I pity any 'zoic players in your area 'cos mandatory is amazing

The compulsory Summons I still find to be an issue- It has pros and cons, and I'm over that.

 

ANYWAY

 

Anomal is good and all, but I consider Opab to be the true boss of the set, mainly because it lets you activate the f***in' Burgess' monsters from your hand- Honestly Anomal should have had that effect from the start.

It should have had some protection from Raigeki/Dark Hole/Torrential Tribute, 'cos honestly I hate having them cards played on me so much.

[Slinky]

this isn't a local thing. This is konami-issued.

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this isn't a local thing. This is konami-issued.

When was this? And source please

[Slinky]

It's on a facebook post by Joe Franklino, with Julia (the head judge of Konami) calling him right.

No, I don't have the source, because I don't have the facebook.

[Kaiji]

 http://imgur.com/UaAxzNjgotchu fam, the fabled joe frankino post that judges that'll have to do for now 

 

for the full convo https://www.facebook.com/groups/Adjudication/search/?query=joe%20frankino

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[Guest BGMCANN0N]

Anomalocaris has prove to be pretty useful for certain Chain Link monsters  in Paleozoics as I have tested... Especially since he can help basically start a new chain after a trap resolves.

 

[spoiler=Chain Link Pair Ups]http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Lightning_Punisher

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Iris,_the_Earth_Mother

 

 

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 http://imgur.com/UaAxzNjgotchu fam, the fabled joe frankino post that judges that'll have to do for now 

 

for the full convo https://www.facebook.com/groups/Adjudication/search/?query=joe%20frankino

scroll down a lil

Well then it's pretty clear that the cards a worded wrongly. If they are optional, it's not the the card text is too cramped to fit in "You can"

 

EDIT: Also, judges are allowed to rule how they see fit, it seems

 

EDIT2: Ok, read through the thread entirely and I'm interested to see how my local judge will rule it.

[Delibirb]

Should be noted that the judge facebook page is not official. This does not mean nothing there is true, but it also isnt necessarily gospel until an official statement is released. The page primarily exists for judges to talk to other judges and get help on concepts that might be more difficult. (even if some of those concepts are actually not at all difficult...)

 

EDIT: Having read through that conversation, I feel like commentating on how it played out.

 

Obviously the thread was made because Joe felt he could definitively declare that the Paleozoics specifically were optional.

 

People had a problem with this because the text, according to PSCT, makes it very clear they are mandatory, though everyone agrees they were meant to be and should be optional. Thus, everyone is complaining not about the ruling itself, but about why such a ruling should even be necessary when the cards should just be written properly. As they are now, they're basically misprints.

 

Tangent as Jackson tries to see what source we have for this so he can further clarify for himself, with various parties just stating "He has a source" while not answering Jackson at all.

 

Julia, wonderful as she is, misinterpret's everyone's confusion as complaining, to her specifically, for a poor ruling, when that isn't remotely what's happening. As I observed above, everyone just wants to understand the meaning behind the rulings, and why it looks to be that PSCT has been abandoned for these cards, more or less.

 

Thread was a shitshow. 

[Snatch Steal]

"1. A trap card on the field may have a mandatory trigger, i.e. Vanity's Emptiness, and thus must activate when the trigger is met, but any and all trap effects in the graveyard, even if they are worded to appear as if they are mandatory, i.e. The Phantom Knights of Shadow Veil and the Paleozoic cards, are optional, thus even though their triggers are met, the player may choose to not activate them.

2. If The Phantom Knights of Shadow Veil was a monster card with the text "When an opponent's monster declares a direct attack while this card is in your Graveyard: Special Summon this card in Defense Position. If Summoned this way, banish this card when it leaves the field," would the activation of its effect be mandatory?

2A. If the answer to the above is "Yes," then does the rule of optional activation of the effects of cards that appear to be mandatory apply exclusively to trap cards in the graveyard?"

 

Also from the Facebook page.

 

Like, Mirror Force isn't mandatory to activate while face-down on the field, and you can choose to flip it to activate when you want.

No idea why this is still a debate.

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Like, Mirror Force isn't mandatory to activate while face-down on the field, and you can choose to flip it to activate when you want.

But that's because a set Mirror Force isn't public knowledge. You obviously can't have compulsory nonpublic knowledge effects, because people could lie. Graveyard effects are public knowledge, so this doesn't apply. Therefore the idea of "all trap grave effects are optional regardless of wording because the activation of a trap on the field is optional" is ridiculous.

 

Regardless, just because I dislike a rule, doesn't mean I don't have to play by it. Assuming that when the perfect rulebook finally comes to the TCG it confirms this funny little rule, would that make Naturia Sacred Tree's search float optional?  http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Naturia_Sacred_Tree

[Tinkerer]

But that's because a set Mirror Force isn't public knowledge. You obviously can't have compulsory nonpublic knowledge effects

Big Shield Gardna

 

:3

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Big Shield Gardna

 

:3

Name 1 Spell Card that can target a face-down monster that doesn't end up revealing the target if it resolves.

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Name 1 Spell Card that can target a face-down monster that doesn't end up revealing the target if it resolves.

Shield crush? It only reveals because the monster would be destroyed.

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Shield crush? It only reveals because the monster would be destroyed.

Well if you don't activate the effect Big Shield Gardna, then Shield Crush destroys it, which sends it to the Graveyard, thus revealing it.

[ÆƵ–]

Well if you don't activate the effect Big Shield Gardna, then Shield Crush destroys it, which sends it to the Graveyard, thus revealing it.

That's what I said...

[Tinkerer]

There's "Mind Control" and "Soul Exchange" that target but keep the monster face-down as well.

 

Regardless, this is ridiculously off-topic.  In terms of Anomaly here ...I really got nothing.  The interactions with the rest of the Paleozoics is obvious, but because it needs 3 level 2s, it really has trouble interacting with anything else that could benefit from it.  I mean, there's not much else to discuss, is there?

[ÆƵ–]

Well there's always the plague-hog play. Get out 1 burg and plague-hog and bam, anomal

[notcleverusername]

Skipping mandatory/optional stuff

 

Def pretty ace card

Real fun is when you summon 2 in a turn because Opabinia is actually the REAL ace

Pretty depressing to use against decks with big beaters/floating/targeting immunity/some combination of the above admittedly but can funk up most low-tier decks real nice

 

Also, Agent Burgesstoma is FUKKIN RAD DOODS would def recommend trying it out, Agent Venus + a Burgesstoma basically nets you Opa Anomalo field instantly

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There's "Mind Control" and "Soul Exchange" that target but keep the monster face-down as well.

Mind Control reveals because the opponent can look at their face-down cards.

 

Soul Exchange reveals if they Tribute it.

[Tinkerer]

Mind Control reveals because the opponent can look at their face-down cards.

 

Soul Exchange reveals if they Tribute it.

 

I suppose there's only two spells that target monsters and doesn't "reveal" them then (if my ygopro search typing is to be believed): Majespecter Storm and Prevention Star.  Prevention Star's banish effect triggers after another condition, so you cannot say that its targeting effect reveals.

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I suppose there's only two spells that target monsters and doesn't "reveal" them then (if my ygopro search typing is to be believed): Majespecter Storm and Prevention Star.  Prevention Star's banish effect triggers after another condition, so you cannot say that its targeting effect reveals.

Big Shield Gardna doesn't activate in response to Prevention Star though because Prevention Star targets more than just Gardna. Regardless, I think I have to concede this point because you are right about Majespecter Storm.

 

funk yugioh rulings tho