MattTGM Posted December 24, 2016 Report Share Posted December 24, 2016 I'm not sure if this would work in the metagame, but hopefully you like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted December 24, 2016 Report Share Posted December 24, 2016 You actually need a card for us to grade, buddy; not seeing one here. EDIT: Member sent me the card (with some corrections), so unlocked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 Ironically enough, this is potentially easier to Summon than Shining Dragon, by taking advantage of Phantom of Chaos and other name-changing effects. Still, this isn't a good card to make IMO; not because it is weak, but the opposite: it falls on the "strong but impractical" side, and thus is more of an unreliable overkill card. Hmm... actually, it is more vulnerable than Chaos MAX Dragon, while being more complicated to Summon so I don't think this would see any use in competitive play. As for suggestions for this card, since it is intended to be an improved, and actually good, form of Shining Dragon, I would start by making it an Xyz or Fusion Monster that must be Special Summoned by using a Shining Dragon on the field that was properly Summoned as material/Tribute respectively, and then sure, give it a strong protection effect like the Majespecter's effect, high ATK, the works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 Actually, the fact this card doesn't gain ATK makes it weaker than Shining Dragon. Yes Shining Dragon has 3000 original ATK but at the bare minimum you'll be putting it into the field with 4200 (3 Blue-Eyes + 1 Ultimate Dragon), and realistically you'll have used Dragon's Shrine/Dragon's Ravine/Foolish Burial/Beatrice/Mausoleum of White, or any other form of dragon-milling strategy under the sun like Trade-In or Cards of Consonance. Point is: Shining Dragon will easily have more ATK than this card. I almost always see it enter the field with 5700 ATK.Also, the milling effect is a bit random....If you wanna keep the "bigger but simple" style it has going on, I recommend something like this: ATK / 3000 DEF / 2500Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set. Must be Special Summoned by Tributing a monster whose original name is "Blue-Eyes Shining Dragon", and cannot be Summoned by other ways. Cannot be Tributed or used as a material for a Summon. Unaffected by card effects. It gains 500 ATK for each Dragon-Type monster on the field and either Graveyard. ^That's just an improved Shining Dragon.-Unaffected instead of anti-Target so it now is better protected. This might sound a bit overpowered at first, but keep in mind you also cannot affect it with your effects so what you see is what it is.-The ATK boost is just to keep it 100 ATK bigger than a Dark Paladin, which is something Shining Dragon always failed at (and the movie pretty much ignored).-You can only Summon it the legit way. No Phantom of Chaos shenanigans. That's why the Summon requirement is written the way I wrote it.-Cannot be Tributed/used as Material: This works both ways. Your opponent can't just put a Lava Golem or a Kaiju on top of it, but you also don't have the luxury of using it for something if you ever need to. Yes it's stats are stupidly high in my suggestion... stats that most decks in the game can't surpass, but it needs a proper Shining Dragon on field and to be summoned from the hand so it deserves it. Note that I'm not judging this card from the standpoint of being good/bad for the game or making it multi-task or toolbox anything... It's more of an "achievement unlock" kind of thing IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bintau12345 Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 Can I have the artwork of this card plz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 Actually, the fact this card doesn't gain ATK makes it weaker than Shining Dragon. Yes Shining Dragon has 3000 original ATK but at the bare minimum you'll be putting it into the field with 4200 (3 Blue-Eyes + 1 Ultimate Dragon), and realistically you'll have used Dragon's Shrine/Dragon's Ravine/Foolish Burial/Beatrice/Mausoleum of White, or any other form of dragon-milling strategy under the sun like Trade-In or Cards of Consonance. Point is: Shining Dragon will easily have more ATK than this card. I almost always see it enter the field with 5700 ATK.Also, the milling effect is a bit random....If you wanna keep the "bigger but simple" style it has going on, I recommend something like this: ATK / 3000 DEF / 2500Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set. Must be Special Summoned by Tributing a monster whose original name is "Blue-Eyes Shining Dragon", and cannot be Summoned by other ways. Cannot be Tributed or used as a material for a Summon. Unaffected by card effects. It gains 500 ATK for each Dragon-Type monster on the field and either Graveyard. ^That's just an improved Shining Dragon.-Unaffected instead of anti-Target so it now is better protected. This might sound a bit overpowered at first, but keep in mind you also cannot affect it with your effects so what you see is what it is.-The ATK boost is just to keep it 100 ATK bigger than a Dark Paladin, which is something Shining Dragon always failed at (and the movie pretty much ignored).-You can only Summon it the legit way. No Phantom of Chaos shenanigans. That's why the Summon requirement is written the way I wrote it.-Cannot be Tributed/used as Material: This works both ways. Your opponent can't just put a Lava Golem or a Kaiju on top of it, but you also don't have the luxury of using it for something if you ever need to. Yes it's stats are stupidly high in my suggestion... stats that most decks in the game can't surpass, but it needs a proper Shining Dragon on field and to be summoned from the hand so it deserves it. Note that I'm not judging this card from the standpoint of being good/bad for the game or making it multi-task or toolbox anything... It's more of an "achievement unlock" kind of thing IMO. I want to point it that those stats make it searchable by "Melody of Awakening Dragon", which is not bad, but makes the combo easier by being able to grab both Shining and this with the Spell, and I can't tell if you intended for that or not with your suggestion.I do like very much the "cannot be used as tribute or material" clause; nice way of preventing Kaiju/Lava Golem/Stormforth counter-plays, plus the restriction your own plays as well, although I can imagine little scenarios in which you would want to use this as fodder for a Summon (a game-finishing Rank12?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 Can I have the artwork of this card plz?Ask for this over PM, or you can do it yourself. Please realize that you also need to provide proper critique on the card in question as per the Advanced Clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted December 27, 2016 Report Share Posted December 27, 2016 I want to point it that those stats make it searchable by "Melody of Awakening Dragon", which is not bad, but makes the combo easier by being able to grab both Shining and this with the Spell, and I can't tell if you intended for that or not with your suggestion.I do like very much the "cannot be used as tribute or material" clause; nice way of preventing Kaiju/Lava Golem/Stormforth counter-plays, plus the restriction your own plays as well, although I can imagine little scenarios in which you would want to use this as fodder for a Summon (a game-finishing Rank12?). No that wasn't on purpose. I don't usually go this route but for this card I did intend to make it an unsearchable nomi whose purpose was similar to any other nomi boss from the DM and GX eras. I was just thinking about making its stats like regular Blue-Eyes rather than like that of Ultimate Dragon, for the sake of toning it down at least a bit.... That's about the same reasoning they probably gave to Shining Dragon... I guess being searchable isn't too bad xD You still would wind up searching both this and Shining Dragon and they'd ultimately be 1 monster. Yes there aren't many Rank 12, but just in case. If it was Level 8 or 10, it'd be a downside, and I was thinking about suggesting a Level change but the end product of my post didn't end up doing it.... because 12 sounds cooler xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTGM Posted March 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 For some reason I can't upload cards so if anyone can help me with that I can add in an updated version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 Did the cardmaker uploader break again with the downtime? Looks like Tormey has one more thing to message YCMaker about (or you guys will have to learn how to use TCGEditor). Anyway, if you can get it, great. If not, you'll have to write out stuff (and frankly, it may be easier for you). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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