shadowsapex Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 It's fairly problematic - the Neptune can only be outed by a Kaiju, Crystal Wing, or Honest, and you have exactly 1 turn to out it. Not enough time has passed to really tell if it'll even make an impact though. Could just all be hype.Even so, it's better to not have something like this floating around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 It's fairly problematic - the Neptune can only be outed by a Kaiju, Crystal Wing, or Honest, and you have exactly 1 turn to out it. Not enough time has passed to really tell if it'll even make an impact though. Could just all be hype.Even so, it's better to not have something like this floating around. Ferret Flames also works! Main 3 like I used to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 you can't conclude something is "problematic" if you acknowledge that only time will tell if it could be. its unlikely this will make an impact, the OCG environment is pretty hostile when it comes to decks like this, especially when "T1 GG" boards are constants so the only decks that stand out are decks that can play past opp's average hands when going 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Neptune is absolutely hilarious with this.God, that's so broken. I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanashimi Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 After testing a lot of duels, Zoodiac Prepla feat. Speedroid has a higher chance at making that combo 2nd of your turn. Doing Molmorat spam (using Triangle or Terrortop) which doesnt take NS -> leave you with Drancia + 2 Molmorat then Xyz into King of the Feral Imps -> search Neptune, NS Scorpio -> SS Cobra search InstaFuse, also you can run 3 Lonefire for 4th, 5th, and 6th Scorpio, more consistency, of course this doesnt include BriFu, as i think its too bricky. Also normally, Neptune will have 6K ATK, but this deck (and this combo), you can Tribute Independent Nightingale and King of the Feral Imp so it has 8.3K ATK, pretty good if opp unaware of it (but doesnt change the fact its still lose against Crystal Wing or Honest, Kaiju aside). Opening Instant Fusion means Neptune turn 1 is no child's dream at all, which is kinda evil, since 5k burn hurts opp a lot, unless they get rid the Neptune on their next turn, game over. Anyway, Neptune is also susceptible during the activation of his eff (after the Normal Summon), during this momentum you can chain/activate SS2 removal, or Solemn Strike, given youre going against that deck and youre faster at setting up than opp, preventing the Neptune to gain his immortality. Of course you can Dimensional Barrier during the activation of Instant Fusion, but seems unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 people also schleeping on the supreme king pendulum scales to search instant / brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanashimi Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 people also schleeping on the supreme king pendulum scales to search instant / brilliantSo running Pendulum build (trio Supreme King pendulum) in exchange for Prepla? Anyhow the YGOPro hype about this broken combo, lately duel'd against someone with draw engine Neptune, basically same as Exodia Library without the Exodia and the Royal Magical Library (yea okay not Exodia Library anymore), deck digging stuff like Upstart, Toon Table of Contents -> Blue-Eyes Toon -> Trade-In, Into the Void, Magical Mallet, PoD, and lalalala. Keep digging 'til got InstaFuse and Neptune. Glad its single duel and im going first sooo i can set up King of the Feral Imp + Drancia turn 1, so i can chain Drancia to the Normal Summon of his Neptune. Next turn i do this broken combo (from turn 1 set up) -> immortal Neptune, but he also manage to attempt the combo 2nd times during his next turn too, but hey i have Drancia! Game is on my grasp. Idk if its about luck or that Solitaire-draw-engine deck is better at setting up the combo . . . given he attempt it 2 times. But yea, its not funny when people start playing this kind of stuff altogether (I might stop as well). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Nah you can play both Supreme King and Predaplant; Supreme King pretty nice cuz you add another layer of Instant Fusion + Brilliant search and possibly PS a Rat in the process so you wouldn't need the Brilliant to normal the Neptune. It's worth noting that even if they Kaiju the Neptune you only have to play through 2.5k LP which means either Lightning or Crystal Wing T3. Also should mention T1, I see most attack boosts as aesthetic as, if Neptune isn't outed, you can just immediately go for the burn effect and win on T3 anyway. Without King of the Feral Imps you hit 6k anyway which ignores lightning. I'm positive this deck is complete hype tho, but impressed how easy it is to drop if you can manage to go first; easily one of the better Timmy Decks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 a strong, independent nightingale who don't need no synchro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Mmm... the problem is, I can't see a way to effectively use this card in Ruri.dek, or at least a way that doesn't involve more unsearchable winmore cards, clunky engines that don't synergize in any way, or using up resources that could have been spent on making a bigger Assembly.Konami, I'm serious about the Miracle Xyz Fusion! Give it to us! I don't care if it literally summons only 3 cards, I want it to be a thing. On another note, I tried making a Zodiac deck that turbos out Tyrant Neptune, and I think the chance of opening the combo is about 50% (based off sample hands. Trying to figure out a probability problem twists my brain into pretzels). The rest of the time, you got to try and win with the Zodiacs, so I stopped testing because playing Zodiacs is unfathomably boring on YGOPro.I hope Konami doesn't ban any of the cards involved in this combo. Independent's too new and did nothing wrong, Neptune is a nostalgia card with an interesting mechanic who also did nothing wrong, and a ban on Instant Fusion would just kill me. If they errata Independent, this entire problem could be solved. R1 deck already use instant fusion for TER, just replace RUM with Neptune and bingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowsapex Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 R1 deck already use instant fusion for TER, just replace RUM with Neptune and bingoThat's not a way to effectively use it. Like I stated above: unsearchable winmore cards. You draw Neptune without Insta, you're not gonna be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 You're not happy if you draw RUM without Strix either. R1 decks rely on these kinds of gimmicks to pull wins, as they don't have anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 stay woke and use flash fusion smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowsapex Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 You're not happy if you draw RUM without Strix either. R1 decks rely on these kinds of gimmicks to pull wins, as they don't have anything else.Well, the difference between these two is that Strix is searchable 4 different ways and revivable by 1, and Insta and Neptune are both completely unsearchable in pure LLs. And if you don't have a Strix, you can make Utopia Roots, discard the RUM, and turn it into a dragon, but Neptune is completely worthless outside a single combo.I guess Independent really does offer nothing to the current form of the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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