Eternal Nightmares

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

醒めない悪夢 Samenai Akumu (Eternal Nightmares)
Trap Continuous
You cannot activate this card’s effect on the same Chain as itself.
(1) You can pay 1000 LP, then target 1 face-up Spell/Trap Card; destroy it.

[Progenitor]

Damn, continuous face up removal?

Even with a kinda hefty 1000 per pop, that's pretty damn scary if it just sits there.

[Tinkerer]

This is... Something. Unlimited Spell/Trap destruction as long as you can pay for it. Opponent can't set up scales, field spells or continuous spells (besides the true draco ones, for obvious reasons). Me likey.

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the anti-floodgate floodgate (also anti-pendulum)

[Kingdom Xathers]

Pay 2000 or more to say "Screw You" to your opponent's Pendulum Scales, basically?  I mean, I know Twin Twisters would be the better (cost-efficient) option, but still.

 

EDIT: Oh, and of course "Screw You" to floodgates, too.

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This is... Something. Unlimited Spell/Trap destruction as long as you can pay for it. Opponent can't set up scales, field spells or continuous spells (besides the true draco ones, for obvious reasons). Me likey.

it's still worth popping the true draco ones because all they're gonna do is Trubite it and pop eternal nightmares anyway.

[Progenitor]

Also note that it isn't limited to your opponent's side.  You can pop your own stuff to trigger effects or make room if you really need to.  Just some food for thought.  Generally won't be worth the 1k but sometimes it might.

[evilfusion]

At first read, I thought the "can't use in chain with self" meant you had to Flip this faceup, let it resolve, and THEN you could activate the effect. That's not the case. Flipping this faceup activates the effect. It just means you can't use this multiple times in a chain.

 

Seems decent. Helps Decks that use Continuous Traps, or that don't mind the LP cost. It's not even once per turn, which is awesome.

 

Doubt I'd ever use it personally outside of like...a Uria Deck or something, but it's pretty nice.

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At first read, I thought the "can't use in chain with self" meant you had to Flip this faceup, let it resolve, and THEN you could activate the effect. That's not the case. Flipping this faceup activates the effect. It just means you can't use this multiple times in a chain.

I'm pretty sure it means both

[evilfusion]

I'm pretty sure it means both

 

Typically, the act of flipping a Continuous Card faceup is activating the corresponding effect. At least, that's how I recall cards like Dark Smog working. That you could activate the effect at the time you flipped it faceup.

 

Honestly, it's kind of confusing, and could go either way. But it'd kind of suck if it didn't allow you to activate the effect upon activation of the card, because then you wouldn't be able to chain this to a floodgate.

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Typically, the act of flipping a Continuous Card faceup is activating the corresponding effect. At least, that's how I recall cards like Dark Smog working. That you could activate the effect at the time you flipped it faceup.

You have the option of doing that, but you don't have to do that. A simple once per chain clause like on Exciton would suffice if it worked as you claim

[Slinky]

Typically, the act of flipping a Continuous Card faceup is activating the corresponding effect. At least, that's how I recall cards like Dark Smog working. That you could activate the effect at the time you flipped it faceup.

 

Honestly, it's kind of confusing, and could go either way. But it'd kind of suck if it didn't allow you to activate the effect upon activation of the card, because then you wouldn't be able to chain this to a floodgate.

 

It's not confusing at all.

 

Flipping a continuous trap means you have the /option/ of using its effect at that chain link. The line here removes that option akin to things like Tactial Espionage Expert/Stellarknight Delters removing the option to chain to a summon resolution. Or a more relevant example, how Reckless Magic Circle stops your opponent from responding to your Fusion Summons. It's the exact same case but worded differently to apply to a different game mechanic.

 

So yes, you do have to let it resolve to use it. It can't be used as an instant mst, allowing your opponent to get rid of it before it does major harm.

[UltimateIRS]

Actually, you can't use the effect when you activate the card due to game mechanics, since the effect has a cost.

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Actually, you can't use the effect when you activate the card due to game mechanics, since the effect has a cost.

source plz

[Slinky]

Actually, you can't use the effect when you activate the card due to game mechanics, since the effect has a cost.

 

Wrong.

Dark Contract with the Valkyrie has a cost, it can be used at activation. Game Mechanic states nothing about it having a cost or not, just that you can use the effect.

[Expelsword]

Cost is way too much, and this itself dies to MST.

[Kaiji]

thats like whining about cosmic cyclones lp cost lol

 

also lol @ losing 1000 lp cuz of MST being bad

 

its a floodgate thats p limited in its application, but being able to BTFO scales and field spells in a format where you would only have 1 form of removal for 1 of those cards otherwise is p gr8

 

its basically comparable to ASF in application which also happens to die to mst but that manages to be pretty effective regardless sooooooo

[Expelsword]

I'll stick with Twin Twister, thanks.

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I'll stick with Twin Twister, thanks.

well it's barely a replacement considering that this can't target set cards

[GarlandChaos]

I'll stick with Twin Twister, thanks.

^ This. I do like how it's continuous removal that you can use as many times as you have Life Points in multiples of 1000, but the problem, at least for me, is that a) It's a Trap, so you have to wait a turn after setting it, and b) it only kills face-up stuff. Granted this is justified in that otherwise it would be way too powerful for its own good, but I prefer something immediate that I can use on a larger scale, i.e. MST, TwiTwi, or Cosmic Cyclone.

 

Would I use this? As a side card, maybe. Otherwise no.

[Kaiji]

rofl @ comparing it to twin twisters

 

its a floodgate therefore it occupies a specific niche

[Expelsword]

Rofl @ ignoring that this card is outclassed because it's good when opened against Pendulums.

[Slinky]

Twitwi only stops one set of pendulums for a 0.

 

This stops pendulums at a +1 every time and doesn't only stop 1 set.

[Kaiji]

Rofl @ ignoring that this card is outclassed because it's good when opened against Pendulums.

It's not a question of being outclassed at all

 

you bring up constants that apply to most cards when the only basis for comparison is vs cards like ASF and Imperial Order

 

"it's a trap so its bad"

Side it going first smh

 

Drancia is a very real out to this which I have factored already, but nobody has brought it up smh

[Blake]

Rofl @ ignoring that this card is outclassed because it's good when opened against Pendulums.

what a good post that ignores why this isn't comparable

 

This is a floodgate that KILLS FLOODGATES. It's an anti-floodgate. Being good against Pendulum/ZOODIAC TRIANGLE is just a bonus.

 

This is probably a better side for Floodgate decks than Twitwi, which is faster but not as potent in the long run.