Thomas★Zero Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Elemental HERO Crimson Hurricane lv 8 FIRE Warrior/Fusion/Effect "Elemental HERO Blazeman" + "Elemental HERO Stratos" Must be Fusion Summoned and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. When this card is Fusion Summoned, target up to as many "HERO" Monsters in your graveyard: shuffle those targeted cards into the deck, then, inflict 500 points of damage to your opponent for each "HERO" Monster shuffled into your deck this way. If you shuffled 5 or more "HERO" Monsters into your deck through this effect you can apply one of the following effects. * Destroy all Monsters on your opponents side of the field. * Destroy all Spell/Trap Cards on your opponents side of the field. * Draw 2 Cards ATK/2500 DEF/2000 So Crimson Hurricane made with 2 key HERO cards which through this allows them to also be searchable and usable through Fusion Reserve and with its effect to recycle HERO's into the deck it can inflict a various amount of burn where if it hits 2500 or more it then can either destroy all of your opponents Spell and Traps or all of their monsters and even as an option draw 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 By now, you know full well that Stratos is still banned on TCG side (and Tewart isn't unbanning it anytime soon); OCG does not have this problem, but I will assume you're a TCG user, so our banlist applies [last time I checked, we didn't get a new one for the past 7 months]. (I mean, you can still use a Fusion sub in HEROs, but why would you [unless you don't care about consistency]?) Suppose this would be good for recycling dead Fusion fodder (and likely Masked HERO stuff), but nowadays I don't think HEROs really Fusion Summon [idk if AbZero and Core plays are still viable; mentioning these two based on what's been used competitively]. Think by now HEROs have moved on to Omnis or the ones that do not require specific names. (Yeah, you do get specific Fusion support and Prisma if you want). (In a way, it's a strictly better Fifth Hope [if you can get enough HEROs in the Graveyard mid/late game] that burns and all). I would probably say lower the burn to 300, because HEROs will likely fill the Graveyard fast enough to get the 5 returns off, and trigger Raigeki/HFD/Pot of Greed (on this card). ===Bottom-line, unless you use a Fusion sub in HEROs (which I don't think they do, at least not variants that compete in the meta), this is pretty much not going to see play TCG-side due to Stratos being banned right now. (You'd probably have to consult with Winter on OCG because I do not know how HEROs are faring on that end) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 To be fair, Versago (+TGU) and King of Swamps can be somewhat efficient as Fusion substitutes. Especially when HEROes have Miracle Fusion.I'm concerned about the burn effect because with enough HEROes in grave plus the 2500 ATK it can be a bit too easy to OTK with it, as if HEROes didn't excel at OTKing already with Battle Phase Mask Change plays, Honesty Neos, etc. Lawnmowing HERO variants, anyone?So, yeah, should be more fair to tone down the burn to 200~300; after all, the other effects are strong enough. Another alternative I thought about is spinning HEROes with different names, but that would make it difficult to reach 5+ and gain the extra effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruiota_Hiroshi Posted March 19, 2017 Report Share Posted March 19, 2017 I'm assuming you meant to say that you shuffle as many HEROes as possible from your graveyard into your deck. It's a bit overpowered, in my opinion. Stratos is banned in the TCG (Advanced), so you'd need to use a fusion substitute of some sort, like one of the Hex-Sealed Fusion monsters, if you're going by Advanced rules. If you have Stratos in your deck, though, getting Crimson Hurricane out is almost too easy. Normal Summon your Stratos, and he gets Blazeman into your hand. Keep Stratos on the field until your next turn, then Normal Summon your Blazeman, get Polymerization, and Fusion Summon. If you're going to make Summoning it so easy, you should lessen its power to balance out the card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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