Thomas★Zero Posted July 18, 2021 Report Share Posted July 18, 2021 Elemental HERO Geo Terra Firma lv 8 EARTH Warrior/Fusion/Effect 1 "HERO" Monster + 1 EARTH Monster Must be Fusion Summoned. Your opponents monsters must attack this card, if possible. You can only use the following effects of "Elemental HERO Geo Terra Firma" once per turn. * (Quick Effect): Banish 1 "Elemental HERO" Monster from your hand, field or GY; this card gains ATK equal to the banished monsters original ATK until the End Phase this turn. * If this card is destroyed by battle or by an opponents card effect: You can Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower "HERO" monster thats banished or from your GY. ATK/2500 DEF/2000 Vision HERO Great Jupiter lv 8 DARK Warrior/Fusion/Effect 2 DARK "HERO" Monster This card gains 500 ATK and DEF for each monster equipped to this card by this effect. You can only use each effect of "Vision HERO Great Jupiter" once per turn. * (Quick Effect): You can target 1 monster your opponent controls; equip the targted card to this card. * If this card would be destroyed by battle or by an opponents card effect, you can destroy 1 monster equipped to this card instead, and if you do, inflict damage to your opponent equal to the destroyed monsters ATK. ATK/2500 DEF/2000 Volcanic Blazing Mars lv 8 FIRE Pyro/Fusion/Effect 2 FIRE Monsters You can discard 1 FIRE Monster from your hand; inflict damage to your opponent equal to the discard cards ATK. (Quick Effect): You can banish 2 FIRE Monster except "Volcanic Blazing Mars" from your GY; Special Summon this card from your GY, and if you do, inflict 2000 points of damage to your opponent. You can only use each effect of "Volcanic Blazing Mars" per turn. ATK/2600 DEF/2200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokutah Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 Ill just gonna comment on jupiter and mars as the more interesting of the bunch Both of them is retrained to be intergrated to the archetypal deck they played in on the manga. Kinda weird, but i has reference to terra firma itself. Its just it seems...forced, Volcanic is not fusion deck and jupiter had theme mis-match Jupiter: its clear that the route you take with this one is semi-genericness and for the most part its a solid card, its just the interaction seems half-baked. It dont interact with Vision hero cont trap gimmick its more in line with Destiny Heroes if anything Mars: as mention before, volcanic is not fusion deck so idk how viability of cramming fusion engine in. And this card is not exactly Blaze Accelerator either. So we have this conundrum of boss that the deck dont want but cannot fill the deck engine part either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted July 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 5 hours ago, Dokutah Jolly said: Ill just gonna comment on jupiter and mars as the more interesting of the bunch Both of them is retrained to be intergrated to the archetypal deck they played in on the manga. Kinda weird, but i has reference to terra firma itself. Its just it seems...forced, Volcanic is not fusion deck and jupiter had theme mis-match Jupiter: its clear that the route you take with this one is semi-genericness and for the most part its a solid card, its just the interaction seems half-baked. It dont interact with Vision hero cont trap gimmick its more in line with Destiny Heroes if anything Mars: as mention before, volcanic is not fusion deck so idk how viability of cramming fusion engine in. And this card is not exactly Blaze Accelerator either. So we have this conundrum of boss that the deck dont want but cannot fill the deck engine part either So regarding them, with the Jupiter the reason its materials are 2 DARK HERO's so it fits in the theme of both Asters Manga/Anime HERO's where Jupiter to some extent puts monsters in the Spell/Trap Zone to boost its own strength. Mars while Volcanic is not a Fusion Deck, Mars itself is a generic fire Fusion that can be used in either the manga/anime versions of the deck while being able to dish out some big damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loleo Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 Mars just seems like a target for extra foolish burial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 On 7/20/2021 at 5:53 PM, ITSUKOSOADO said: Mars just seems like a target for extra foolish burial. If it was not summoned properly it should not be able to Special Summon itself from the Graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loleo Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 7/21/2021 at 3:28 PM, The Highlander said: If it was not summoned properly it should not be able to Special Summon itself from the Graveyard. then you need a "must first be fusion summoned" clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokutah Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 2 hours ago, ITSUKOSOADO said: then you need a "must first be fusion summoned" clause. Ironically you dont need that wording Welcome to the slightly vague but relevantly important part of konami rulling: all extra deck monster cannot be special summoned by other ways from anywhere outside extra deck if its not properly special summoned first using its default or listed summon procedure or effect. Yes all of them, this rule even apply for the non-effect fusion from DM era sets Some card do "forced" out monster off extra deck but the forced out card cannot be special summoned from GY by reborn after it sent to gy for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loleo Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 17 hours ago, Dokutah Jolly said: Ironically you dont need that wording Welcome to the slightly vague but relevantly important part of konami rulling: all extra deck monster cannot be special summoned by other ways from anywhere outside extra deck if its not properly special summoned first using its default or listed summon procedure or effect. Yes all of them, this rule even apply for the non-effect fusion from DM era sets Some card do "forced" out monster off extra deck but the forced out card cannot be special summoned from GY by reborn after it sent to gy for example what is the point of that clause ahhhhh. Well thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokutah Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 3 hours ago, ITSUKOSOADO said: what is the point of that clause ahhhhh. Well thanks for the info. To be fair the clause you reference has other function, Tl;dr: Clause prevent cheat out from extra deck Rules prevent from anywhere else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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