Thomas★Zero Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 [Errata Theory]When this card is Normal or Special Summoned: You can activate 1 of these effects.● You can destroy Spell/Trap Cards on the field, up to the number of "HERO" monsters you control, except this card.● Add 1 "HERO" monster from your Deck to your hand, except this card.You can only activate this effect of "Elemental HERO Stratos" once per turn during your turn only and during the turn you activated this effect: you cannot Special Summon monsters except "HERO" monsters.As inspired by 幻魔の王 I thought I give it a try and this should balance Stratos out so it can come off the list at 1 or more if it were to get such a errata. (working on the text to combine the OPT-DYTO Clause with during the turn this effect is activated clause.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Or they could just bring it back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
- Minimania - Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 If it came off the list like this, I wouldn't run it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Glad to see I've been so influential. Honestly, I feel like a hard OPT limit is enough on this guy, and maybe block him from searching more copies of himself, comme ca. The fact HEROs aren't even dominating in the OCG should tell you banning this guy was overkill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 #BanShadowFreeStratos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted March 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Glad to see I've been so influential.Honestly, I feel like a hard OPT limit is enough on this guy. The fact HEROs aren't even dominating in the OCG should tell you banning this guy was overkill.I see I just thought since another issues with Stratos was its abuse with bubbleman as an Xyz's engine. I thought I make it limited to "HERO" Monsters so it can still go into Blazeman for fusions and would still allow for Masked HERO's to be played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 I see I just thought since another issues with Stratos was its abuse with bubbleman as an Xyz's engine. I thought I make it limited to "HERO" Monsters so it can still go into Blazeman for fusions and would still allow for Masked HERO's to be played. Here's the thing though: Rank 4 Xyz engines don't have nearly the power they used to, thanks to the game leaving them behind in favour of Pendulums and other summon conditions. As Masked HEROs get better and thus Fusion options expand, HERO decks move father away from the Xyz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 #keepstratosbannedforever This doesn't deserve to come off the list, in any way. Ever. Heroes are already oversaturated. The fact they aren't topping in the OCG is also 100% irrelevant, because their format is SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT than ours. I sincerely hope this never sees the light of day again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 This doesn't deserve to come off the list, in any way. Ever. Heroes are already oversaturated. The fact they aren't topping in the OCG is also 100% irrelevant, because their format is SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT than ours. No they're complete garbage here too lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 #keepstratosbannedforever This doesn't deserve to come off the list, in any way. Ever. Heroes are already oversaturated. The fact they aren't topping in the OCG is also 100% irrelevant, because their format is SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT than ours. I sincerely hope this never sees the light of day again. My point is that if Stratos actually being at 1 doesn't make then meta, it's okay for them to have it. Losing Super Poly is what did in HEROs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Lets be pro-Stratos only goes off when Normal'd, can't search itself, and we also ban Emergency Call :Kappa: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Lets be pro- Stratos only goes off when Normal'd, can't search itself, and we also ban Emergency Call :Kappa: This sounds fair. You want Stratos @1 and E-Call banned, or Stratos banned and E-Call @3. Pick one or the other, your call peeps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 This sounds fair. You want Stratos @1 and E-Call banned, or Stratos banned and E-Call @3. Pick one or the other, your call peeps. Who the hell cares? We already have 3 RotA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Who the hell cares? We already have 3 RotA. It's OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 #keepstratosbannedforever This doesn't deserve to come off the list, in any way. Ever. Heroes are already oversaturated. The fact they aren't topping in the OCG is also 100% irrelevant, because their format is SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT than ours. I sincerely hope this never sees the light of day again. What exactly are they doing in the TCG now without him, if I may ask? With that in mind, what do you think they will do with him in the TCG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 I'm kinda laughing at people who think stratos being unbanned will break the game. Yet you guys are fine with s*** like Qlis and Necloths. Don't give me any of that "side deck" bullshit either because you can side against heros fine. If you support Qlis and Cancercloths but hate the idea of stratos being banned then you're full of s***.unless you can give a valid reason why stratos is somehow better than those cancers of the meta Qlis and Cloths > Stratos, nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 #keepstratosbannedforever This doesn't deserve to come off the list, in any way. Ever. Heroes are already oversaturated. The fact they aren't topping in the OCG is also 100% irrelevant, because their format is SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT than ours. I sincerely hope this never sees the light of day again. Could you please explain your reasoning and give evidence behind your claims before you randomly spout blatantly incorrect information with absolutely no basis for argument? I mean, what does over saturated even mean in a card game environment. Are you trying to say that HERO has too much support? Even if that was the case, how is this at all relevant to Stratos and it's position on the list? I'm not even going to have to compare Stratos to the current searchers of today to even prove my point, I do not see what is unacceptable about a card like Stratos, regardless. It's second effect is seldom ever used, and a large number of it's targets either have another searcher in RoTA and/or E-Call, or are just plain not what they used to be, in the case of a card like Malicious and Diamond Dude. Even with Stratos, I doubt HERO would become anything but maybe a niche deck relying on Dark Law to win them their meta matchups, A friendly reminder that Shadow Mist, while it is much more restricted, has a wider span of use in HERO as of recent than Stratos would, as it doesn't require being summoned, and can also search Mask Change, which gets HERO into their best card (And arguably, their only good card). Saying the OCG format is different is irrelevant as we have the HERO support here, we could easily use the TCG format as a grounds for evaluating Stratos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Could you please explain your reasoning and give evidence behind your claims before you randomly spout blatantly incorrect information with absolutely no basis for argument? I mean, what does over saturated even mean in a card game environment. Are you trying to say that HERO has too much support? Even if that was the case, how is this at all relevant to Stratos and it's position on the list? I'm not even going to have to compare Stratos to the current searchers of today to even prove my point, I do not see what is unacceptable about a card like Stratos, regardless. It's second effect is seldom ever used, and a large number of it's targets either have another searcher in RoTA and/or E-Call, or are just plain not what they used to be, in the case of a card like Malicious and Diamond Dude. Even with Stratos, I doubt HERO would become anything but maybe a niche deck relying on Dark Law to win them their meta matchups, A friendly reminder that Shadow Mist, while it is much more restricted, has a wider span of use in HERO as of recent than Stratos would, as it doesn't require being summoned, and can also search Mask Change, which gets HERO into their best card (And arguably, their only good card). Saying the OCG format is different is irrelevant as we have the HERO support here, we could easily use the TCG format as a grounds for evaluating Stratos. Exactly. The reason I even want Stratos back is to make Great Tornado and Divine Wind playable, since they're awesome cards (more so the latter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Put it to 1. Shadow Mist is far worse and even that isn't doing anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutrality Man Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Forget the errata and put this and Shadow Mist at 1 and 2, respectively. if bullshit continues, Limit Mist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Aaaaaaand this guy remains Banned for another format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Aaaaaaand this guy remains Banned for another format. 2015 and Konami still can't beat/thinks stratos is broken. They are equivalent to smogon now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 #FreeMyNiggaStratos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 I take back what i just said. This is the best fucking list i've ever seen. YES YES YES BESTIARI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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