~Emo~ Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Its player number two's turn. The field is: P1:Berserk (Attack mode) S/t:Skill drain (just set)Transmigration prophecy (Set)Transmigration Break (Set)Mirror force (set) Lp: 1500 P2:Stardust (Attack mode) s/tAxe of despair (on stardust)malevolent catastrophe (set)seven tools of a bandit (set) Lp: 1000 Who will win the duel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazer Yoshi Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 I don't know.But Stardust > Berserk in General. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 the guy with bersek dragon will winif stardust attacks it will face mirror force and skill drain can negate its effect, and even if you could use its effect, it will come back without the equip so less ATK. also, if you want to pay for 7-tools, that player only has 1000 Life Points so can't even pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Fat Guy Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Do they both have empty hands? If so, the Berserk Dragon Guy's got a pretty good chance. He's not losing his dragon, due to mirror force, and Stardust can either take the mirror or tribute himself. If he tributes himself, he'll just get transmigrationed. P2 has no choice but to pass. Doesn't really matter what P1 draws, but if it's a monster with >1000 attack, he can just crash the berserk dragon, and probably would since he doesn't want stardust to end up being bigger than him. He'll just troll it up relying on Force until he gets something to get Stardust out of the way. It really comes down to what they draw, unless the stardust player is reckless/stupid or the berserk player is stupid. Also, how is skill drain just set if it's P2's turn? Either way that could keep Berserk at 3500 if need be. I feel like I'm missing something, because I can't find a clear winner. Berserk guy has the edge, not the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Depends on what Beserk Dragon's current ATK is Is it 3500? Or has it been reduced due to its effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 If it's player 2's turn, how can player 1's Skill Drain be "just set"? The secondary effect of Dust Tornado? On a completely unrelated note:if stardust attacks it will face mirror force and skill drain can negate its effect' date='[/quote'] Learn2play plz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Pika, I think he's saying Skill Drain would negate Stardust. Player 1 would win if he activated Malevolent Catastrophe. Then again, Player 2 could just use something like Lightning Vortex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 If it's player 2's turn' date=' how can player 1's Skill Drain be "just set"? The secondary effect of Dust Tornado? On a completely unrelated note:if stardust attacks it will face mirror force and skill drain can negate its effect, Learn2play plz. oh! forgive me for making you think I'm targeting mirror force with skill drain u_u [/sarcasm]so you mean you don't think skill drain can negate stardust in any way?that's so interesting, good for you. What I wrote can only be interpreted in the wrong way like you did if you are not making any effort to follow the logic of what I'm oviously pointing out. @Roxas: thanks ^-^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Fat Guy Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Stardust can't be negated by Skill Drain, tributing him's a cost and he technically activates in the graveyard. Malevolent Catastrophe would do nothing for either player, since Skill Drain can be chained and pump Berserk back to 3500 (no benefit to stardust's controller) and I'm assuming P2 won't just use it like a jackass. Then again, I know what all the set cards are. Realistically, I guess Stardust guy would wait for Berserk to shrink small enough and try to run him over, at which point Force or Skill Drain (most likely force) will stop him. He'll come back weaker and get run over by Berserk. Still, that's not a guarantee, that's just a likely scenario, which is why I can't blatantly give the win to Berserk guy. I think this puzzle is flawed, since all I can really think is that it relies on the draws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowKyogre Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 We need what's in ze hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 That, and how was Skill Drain just set if it's the second players turn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Stardust can't be negated by Skill Drain' date=' tributing him's a cost and he technically activates in the graveyard.[/quote'] We're assuming that Stardust is already on the field. With Skill Drain set, upon activation, Stardust would be negated. That' date=' and how was Skill Drain just set if it's the second players turn?[/quote'] Because Player 1 set Skill Drain and ended his turn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 If it's player 2's turn' date=' how can player 1's Skill Drain be "just set"? The secondary effect of Dust Tornado? On a completely unrelated note:if stardust attacks it will face mirror force and skill drain can negate its effect, Learn2play plz. oh! forgive me for making you think I'm targeting mirror force with skill drain u_u [/sarcasm] I love how you're too bad at this game to see your error even after it has been specifically pointed out to you. so you mean you don't think skill drain can negate stardust in any way? Yes. Because it can't. blah blah blah more obnoxious stuff that makes me look dumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 If it's player 2's turn' date=' how can player 1's Skill Drain be "just set"? The secondary effect of Dust Tornado? On a completely unrelated note:if stardust attacks it will face mirror force and skill drain can negate its effect, Learn2play plz. oh! forgive me for making you think I'm targeting mirror force with skill drain u_u [/sarcasm] I love how you're too bad at this game to see your error even after it has been specifically pointed out to you. so you mean you don't think skill drain can negate stardust in any way? Yes. Because it can't. blah blah blah more obnoxious stuff that makes me look dumb putting aside skill drain, the player with berserk dragon has a mirror force, if stardust attacks, both will die or you activate mirror force and stardust has the option of negating or continuing the attack. which will cause it to loose axe of despair and those extra 1000 just to face a monster that will only drop 500 next turn making it still capable to destroy it.... now skill drain will prevent berserk dragon from loosing ATK each turn (now here's where you explain me how is it that stardust keeps negating cards when skill drain is on the field.. and just keep f***ing around with random insults, when I have an error, I want people to kindly correct it in a clear way instead of just saying "learn2play" or your dumb fake quote)now,, do you mind also giving us your version of what happens or you just wrote in this thread to put me down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 blah blah blah irrelevant stuff that doesn't change the fact that Skill Drain doesn't affect Stardust Dragon blah blah blah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 When Stardust is the Graveyard it doesn't. When it's on the field, that's different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 blah blah blah irrelevant stuff that doesn't change the fact that Skill Drain doesn't affect Stardust Dragon blah blah blah it seems like you know how to insult people' date=' kudos to that. (did you even read everything I said?[of course not']) why do I bother... it doesn't change the fact that stardust has a disadvantage in this duel (that's what matters the most in the topic) it will depend on what they draw or how smart will P2 play to determine if stardust will die or how will it die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunter Dwayne Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Interesting predicament...Were you in this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Emo~ Posted March 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Skill drain can't negate stardust because it's effect resolves in the graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Skill drain can't negate stardust because it's effect resolves in the graveyard. thanks for the info ^-^ apparently it was to hard for Crab Helmet & PikaPerson to say that..... <_<but it has an effect on Verserk Dragon, does it ? :) glad to see it has some use in that duel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Stardust can't be negated by Skill Drain' date=' tributing him's a cost and he technically activates in the graveyard.[/quote'] It was explained earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ Chidori-Kun Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 berserk wins thats all to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 ya.. pretty much.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Skill drain can't negate stardust because it's effect resolves in the graveyard. thanks for the info ^-^ apparently it was to hard for Crab Helmet & PikaPerson to say that..... <_< It was already explicitly stated. You just suck at reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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