kimmy1235 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 I has come to my attention that some of you (infact most you) think that Darc the Dark Charmer is a guy. Well I am here to prove you all wrong through reasoning and deduction. First let me put up pics of all five charmer cards for they will be needed for this.Okay now that we have these all here I can behin my argurement. Now the first thing I would like to point out is this little web page right here: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Charmer . Go ahead, click it, read it up and down. I'm sure that 90% of us are familiar with this site and how creditable it is on it's info. Now that we have all taken a good long look at the page we see that it lists a bunch of little tid bits about the chamers, but something is missing, what could that be..... oh wait I know. The part where Dharc is the first boy in a set of cards that have a large fan base and and have thus far been made up of girls. A site that had the need to state the fact that Pikeru and Curran were sisters and not just rivals couldn't have overlooked that, now could they? Now I know this isn't really enough to prove that Dharc is a girl so I have a few other things to add. I think one of the problems you are having is that you all might be pronouncing her name wrong. You probally think that it is pronounced Dark, like the very type she is. Yes Dark does sound like a very manly name doesn't it, but take a look at our favorite wind type charmer. Wynn, while having a name close to her type isn't quite there. So I believe that Dharc is pronounced Darse, now there is a more feminine sounding name even if it does sound like a british person talking about someones backside. Still not conviced? Well I can understand if you are male. Dharc lacks two things that males identify a person having if they are a girl, namely boobs and a skirt. Now I would like to point out that Aussa up there also wears shorts and there has been more than one time that a friend of mine has called her a him because she looks like a brown haired Harry Potter without the scar, despite the fact that her breast are plain to see. I think that Dharc is just a late bloomer, it happens and that might in fact be one of the reasons she is so dark and brooding. I have also heard clams that she can't be a girl because she is "too ugly". Evil does something to a person, both physicly and mentally and that is what darkness is: evil. Despite what are friends the Dark Magician and Dark Magician Girl try to tell you. Dharc is just worn from all the horrors she has face to become a dark charmer which is probally 10 times as hard as befriending some small woodland creature like the other four girls had to do. The collar around her neck suggest that she might even be a slave to the darkness, given her powers by some more powerful being to use against the other charmer. Also I say FU! to people who say she is not a girl becuase of this reason. I think that Dharc is the second cutest charmer (The first is of course Wynn). The name "charmer" almost implies that all of these cards are girls. Girls are know to be the most charming of the two genders, they can be so without even trying. Guys on the other hand are crude and tend to be forceful more often then charming, even if they try to fake it by making a character named Prince Charming which if you read the book The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty you would know he was anything but. Well I hope this has shown you the true natrue of Dharc. I am welcome to rebuttle, but I hope I have already proved her gender with the facts I have shown here. I think that in a few months we will see the Possessed form of her and see that she has grown a pair of boobs herself. My idea is ther other cards are just stages in their life (13-18-adult for example). If that does happen then it will prove that I was right beyond a shadow of a dout, but if not then I will just have to fall back on this list of reasons I have listed here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Emo~ Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 U spent all this time on a terrible card? WOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 So what you're saying it... Dharc=Reverse trap? Because it very clearly looks like a guy >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 There's no need to try and protect yourself because you fancy the pants of the picture; it just means you're gay, duh:roll: I activate the Spell Card, Gay Scare!! You lose 8000 Testosterone Points!! No but seriously why do you care so much? I'm a 100% sure no one else does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 wow you thot quite a bit into this im still not convinced manly girl is manly :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Emo~ Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 WAIT The card was meant to be the only boy. Or so I read 2 minutes ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Yeah... i knew Dharc was a girl.. not like I care or anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Dharc is androgynous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy1235 Posted April 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 There's no need to try and protect yourself because you fancy the pants of the picture; it just means you're gay' date=' duh:roll: I activate the Spell Card, Gay Scare!! You lose 8000 Testosterone Points!! No but seriously why do you care so much? I'm a 100% sure no one else does.[/quote'] I care because the charmer set has always one of my favorite and becuase these cards are often over looked because they are "below average". I like cards like these, they detract from the meta game which 90% of people seem to be absorb into, which in turn causes them to use only OTKs and broken card combos in hundred of cookie cutter decks based completely on what the last world champion tourament champion was using simply because "it works". Where are the original ideas at now adays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.tacos Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 well all the other cards are girls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Its a Boy. Your deductive reasoning is impressive, however you fail to look at it from an artistic standpoint. Kazuki Takahashi is an amazing artist, and like all amazing artist has a very unique style, a style that he uses for almost all his "childish" looking males. Observe the following. Lets take a few Notes, First the similarity in the Hair.Now lets move to the eyes.the thin arms and wrist, giant hands.Also, he likes to draw this particular character with bats. Although each Image is its own, the character in all 3 of these images are in fact the same character, just at different times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury the year Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Dharc is androgynous. He/she is sex. Don't matter to me, though. I'll take it, anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy1235 Posted April 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Lets take a few Notes' date=' First the similarity in the Hair.Now lets move to the eyes.the thin arms and wrist, giant hands.Also, he likes to draw this particular character with bats. Although each Image is its own, the character in all 3 of these images are in fact the same character, just at different times.[/quote'] You make a good point, and I never noticed the bat in the Whirlwind Prodigy's pic before now, but I am going to call in help from Hitta this time around. By your theory Hitta would be a boy since she shares the same type of eye and has a similar hair style, it just being a bit longer. Also I took a look at all the charmer's hands and they seem to be about the same size to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 I feel like playing Devil's Advocate here, that's how bored I am right now ;) (also, I think its a boy anyways) There might be a little set of differenses here, like how Dharc is separated from all others:-He wasn't releaced along with the other charmers-Even if they are all Attribute-based cards, the previews 4 where based on a natural basic Element and this one in other type of force. You can also see how some things in Dharc's pic can differ from the designs of the other 4.-As stated above, Dharc's hands are bigger than the ones of the other charmers just like a boy's hands are bigger than a girl's hands (at least that's the way they are supposed to be generaly) .....(yes, I DID see the differense in hands)-Dharc DOES have shorts like Aussa, but they are different. Aussa's shorts are tight(I hope that's how you spell it and it means what I think it means), like girls usually wear it. But Dharc's are just too big (the kind of shorts you usually see boys using)..-You can also see Femenine aspects in all other card's but Dharc's 1)Aussa's clothes (as I said earlier) look like girl's clothes and you can see her boobs if that's not enough proof.2)Wynn has a skirt, little stuffed animal in the pocket, and a ribbon, it would suck if she wasn't a girl xD3)Hiita is not as girly as the other ones, but she still is pretty obious. As with the last one, the skirt says that this is a girl or a gay guy, I would go that this is a girl xD. Her legs are not the way someone would draw girl's legs.4)Eria, has the skirt, the boobs, the figure, and its cute enough to tell..now to the important part...5)Dharc. Waggy pants, Flat chested, manly gestures.. the neckless, staff, bat, ect are all just to emphasise the fact that he is the DARK charmer (charmer doesn't nessesarily mean its a girl as stated above by the example of the Charming Prince).... by "manly gestures" I mean.. unlike the other charmers, he is not posing, not trying to look attractive in any way, he's just different, his hands are slightly bigger and have the feeling of heavier and stronger(emphasised by a chain)...also, take this in concideration... he seems taller than the rest (males are usually taller than females).. I'm pretty sure I had thought of 1 or 2 more things but I forgot them already ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy1235 Posted April 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 You make some very valid points Sleepy. All of the other pics do show sure signs of the other charmers all being girls and you even symbolized those signs with something I addressed in my first post, breasts and skirts, and Dharc does seem to be lacking in these two things. I still can't see too much differance in the hands though. Maybe it's because the Dharc card on this page is bigger than the other cards shown and I'm misgauging the size ratio, but whatever. We're past that, on to different matters. The clothes thing is deffenetly the main issue here. I my mind Dharc is the goth of the group and not the "Look at me, I'm so dark I'm adorable, give me a hug" kind of goth that I love to feature in my own cards, but the kind of goth so filled with so much self hatred that she would go to lenghts to de-feminize herself for maybe no better reason that to increase the loathing she has for her own existance. If that is how the card creator pictured it that's fine, I'm glad they didn't shave her head along with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 [off topic:] you have PM disabled, I couldn't PM you back :) I accept (I have nothing better to do here and don't feel sleepy right now, even if its past midnight here =) ) I still can receive PMs, I just can't send them back to you.. there must be some way of talking about this somewhere else (or try enabling PMs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaradon Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 All comes in Dark realavation3 except Dharc so it's not like the others. I think it is a boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 /topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 The collar around her neck suggest that she might even be a slave to the darkness' date=' given her powers by some more powerful being to use against the other charmer.[/quote'] I see a flaw in your reasoning here.You see, since her effect can make you take control of a Dark monster, Dharc only makes use of Darkness. You can say that taking control of a monster makes that monster a 'slave' of Dharc. But not just a slave, no, it's a Charmer, and charmers tend to charm, which would make the monster a sex slave. Slaves do not have sex slaves, so it's save to state that Dharc is not a slave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzspooky Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Dharc is a guy and here is my reasoning.... THE JAPANESE ARE PERVERTS!! And would draw a 5 year old with clevage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Supreme Gamesmaster Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 THE JAPANESE ARE PERVERTS!!pervert: a person with abnormal ... sexual behaviour. Intolerance much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 First, allow me to applaud you for making this topic. I has come to my attention that some of you (infact most you) think that Darc the Dark Charmer is a guy. This includes me. Well I am here to prove you all wrong through reasoning and deduction. First let me put up pics of all five charmer cards for they will be needed for this. All I see are four plainly-obvious girls and a boy. Okay now that we have these all here I can behin my argurement. Now the first thing I would like to point out is this little web page right here: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Charmer . Go ahead' date=' click it, read it up and down. I'm sure that 90% of us are familiar with this site and how creditable it is on it's info.[/quote'] What does this have to prove? Also, Yugioh Wiki is actually infamous for not being very credible. Now that we have all taken a good long look at the page we see that it lists a bunch of little tid bits about the chamers' date=' but something is missing, what could that be..... oh wait I know. The part where Dharc is the first boy in a set of cards that have a large fan base and and have thus far been made up of girls.[/quote'] I don't see the part where it says all of them are girls. A site that had the need to state the fact that Pikeru and Curran were sisters and not just rivals couldn't have overlooked that' date=' now could they?[/quote']According to Master Guide 2' date=' White Magician Pikeru is Ebon Magician Curran's twin sister.[/quote'] Now I know this isn't really enough to prove that Dharc is a girl so I have a few other things to add. I think one of the problems you are having is that you all might be pronouncing her name wrong. You probally think that it is pronounced Dark' date=' like the very type she is. Yes Dark does sound like a very manly name doesn't it, but take a look at our favorite wind type charmer. Wynn, while having a name close to her type isn't quite there. So I believe that Dharc is pronounced Darse, now there is a more feminine sounding name even if it does sound like a british person talking about someones backside.[/quote'] Exactly how did you come to the conclusion that "Darse" is the proper pronunciation? Still not conviced? Well I can understand if you are male. Dharc lacks two things that males identify a person having if they are a girl' date=' namely boobs and a skirt. Now I would like to point out that Aussa up there also wears shorts and there has been more than one time that a friend of mine has called her a him because she looks like a brown haired Harry Potter without the scar, despite the fact that her breast are plain to see.[/quote'] Except Aussa wears shorts typically meant for women. I think that Dharc is just a late bloomer' date=' it happens and that might in fact be one of the reasons she is so dark and brooding.[/quote'] So she (Assuming that you're actually right, which you aren't) is emo because she's flat? That's pretty bad reasoning, unless she (Again, assuming you're right) is that status-obsessed. I have also heard clams that she can't be a girl because she is "too ugly". Girls can be ugly too. It just doesn't mean she's not any less of a girl. Evil does something to a person' date=' both physicly and mentally and that is what darkness is: evil. Despite what are friends the Dark Magician and Dark Magician Girl try to tell you. Dharc is just worn from all the horrors she has face to become a dark charmer which is probally 10 times as hard as befriending some small woodland creature like the other four girls had to do.[/quote'] Or like Dark Magician and Dark Magician Girl, they can utilize darkness without being corrupt. The collar around her neck suggest that she might even be a slave to the darkness' date=' given her powers by some more powerful being to use against the other charmer.[/quote'] Or he wears it just because it looks cool. Also I say FU! to people who say she is not a girl becuase of this reason. I think that Dharc is the second cutest charmer (The first is of course Wynn). Eria>Aussa>Wynn>Hiita>Dharc in terms of "cuteness". Dharc comes last because he's a guy. The name "charmer" almost implies that all of these cards are girls. Girls are know to be the most charming of the two genders' date=' they can be so without even trying. Guys on the other hand are crude and tend to be forceful more often then charming, even if they try to fake it by making a character named Prince Charming which if you read the book The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty you would know he was anything but.[/quote'] Since I haven't read The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty, I'm going to go right ahead and say you just contradicted yourself. Also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charmer Well I hope this has shown you the true natrue of Dharc. Actually' date=' it only further helped me realize that Dharc is in fact a boy. I am welcome to rebuttle, but I hope I have already proved her gender with the facts I have shown here. Even though I proved every single fact wrong. I think that in a few months we will see the Possessed form of her and see that she has grown a pair of boobs herself. This will be the only way to convince me' date=' unless they leave his gender even more ambiguous. My idea is ther other cards are just stages in their life (13-18-adult for example). Can we give this man a round of applause?[/sarcasm] If that does happen then it will prove that I was right beyond a shadow of a dout' date=' but if not then I will just have to fall back on this list of reasons I have listed here.[/quote'] Again, I stated all of them wrong. U spent all this time on a terrible card? WOW. Actually' date=' I don't mind, since I need a thread like this for my fanfic. WAIT The card was meant to be the only boy. Or so I read 2 minutes ago. That's because I edited Dharc's Trivia page to say that. I'm actually amazed it's still there. Its a Boy. Your deductive reasoning is impressive' date=' however you fail to look at it from an artistic standpoint. Kazuki Takahashi is an amazing artist, and like all amazing artist has a very unique style, a style that he uses for almost all his "childish" looking males. Observe the following. [img']http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/yugioh/images/thumb/7/7c/DharctheDarkCharmerTDGS-EN-C-1E.jpg/400px-DharctheDarkCharmerTDGS-EN-C-1E.jpg[/img] Lets take a few Notes, First the similarity in the Hair.Now lets move to the eyes.the thin arms and wrist, giant hands.Also, he likes to draw this particular character with bats. Although each Image is its own, the character in all 3 of these images are in fact the same character, just at different times. And Whirlwind Prodigy is the youngest form? Thanks for the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Wow... ^pwned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy1235 Posted April 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 First off Roxas, just saying something contrary to what I say does not disprove my ideas. It just means that you see some things differently and I can respect that, but the moment you do or say anything sarcasticly you become a complete jackass. Now some of your points are valid, alot of my speculations are just that and I am going off my own preferance of what a charmer monster should be, but I noticed something last night that I over looked before and I decided could wait till morning to write. I would like to put back into question Dharc's clothes. Yes we are all aware now that her pants are very unlady like but let's all take a look at the rest of her outfit. Yes, the collar and the shackle she wears don't mean a thing except that maybe she just likes to wear them to look cool. Though by the look on her face I don't think she cares about much, let alone her appearance in other people's eyes. Now getting past that I will get at the point I want to make. Take a look at her shirt. If you notice it has a very low neck line, like you would find on a tube top. It actually goes under her arms, though you can't see that becuase the jacket she wears conceals that a bit. The jacket is not part of the shirt it's self so her arms are bear underneth, a style that I have seen few boys outside a SquireEnix game want to wear and we all know they are all as gay as Elton John. Now I would agure my own point by saying that maybe this is just the charmer's uniform, but our dear friend Aussa comes back to prove that wrong with her turtle neck sweater. The thing I'm trying to say this time is that boys tend to wear shirts, which the collars go around the neck, while girls will wear tops that wrap around the body and never get close to the neck. You can see that Whirlwind Prodigy and Night's End Sorcerer have the type of male shirts I discribe. Also, while they look the same I dout that Dharc, Night's End Sorcerer and Whirlwind Prodigy are the same person because of an obvious reason, the Night's End Sorcerer is a freaking rabbit. and about the time differance in the charmer's releases I have two reasons for this. First is that like I said before Dharc would have had a much harder time becoming a charmer of the vile being's that the darkness is composed of, so of course it would take longer her to become the same strenght as the other charmers. If that doesn't work for you I will just go ahead and take a line out of Yu-Gi-Oh the Abriged Series and say that the card creators hadn't come up with the card yet. It's that simple. Dharc isn't an outcast becuase she wants to be. She's the new girl at school and is still being picked on by the other girls becuase she had the nerve to be an individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Supreme Gamesmaster Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 but the moment you do or say anything sarcasticly you become a complete jackass. The moment you start assailing an extremely effective method of argument, you lose all credibility in the debating field. And I agreed with you, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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