Why does everyone hate Republicans?

[Dark]

While it's funny to see the computerwhiz's lame attempts at argument fall flat on their face' date=' I must admit that this thread has degenerated into simple trolling, and probably should be closed by now.

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Does that mean Democrats win? Tell me that Democrats won.

[Dictator7]

No, everyone is ethier saying that Republicans suck, or Democrats are the best, or vise versa.

[Dark]

Meaning Democrats > Republicans. Meaning this thread = lock. :D

[The Dark One]

Meaning Democrats > Republicans. Meaning this thread = lock. :D

 

I'm afraid repeating something doesn't make it true. If, as dictator said, all the posts contained within this thread were merely statements of democratic superiority or republican inferiority, than this thread would have proved nothing.

 

However, this is not the case. I know, at least, that I have made several substantive posts within the thread,and I believe a few others have as well. It can be noted that these substantive posts were never truly refuted by the conservative members of this board: meaning that yes, the democrats won. ;)

[OMGAKITTY]

Meaning Democrats > Republicans. Meaning this thread = lock. :D

 

I'm afraid repeating something doesn't make it true. If' date=' as dictator said, all the posts contained within this thread were merely statements of democratic superiority or republican inferiority, than this thread would have proved nothing.

 

However, this is not the case. I know, at least, that I have made several substantive posts within the thread,and I believe a few others have as well. It can be noted that these substantive posts were never truly refuted by the conservative members of this board: meaning that yes, the democrats won. ;)

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Plus, Obama has super powers.

[Tabris]

@Tabris: Because, in the bible, marriage is in the eyes of god. Most gays are atheists, and they don't read from the bible. It would make some religious people upset, and, I don't think gays want to have anything involved with god. :/

 

Usual pious-will-sheet-up-and-revolt excuse.

 

Let the pious revolt. I'm all for giving people rights, even if it means puttin' a middle finger up God's ass for givin' homosexuals the sexual impulse and then condemnin' it.

 

And, before I forget, I've heard of a church in the Castro that gives gay couples some pious leeway. Not that I care about religion, but I think you should know about it.

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While it's funny to see the computerwhiz's lame attempts at argument fall flat on their face' date=' I must admit that this thread has degenerated into simple trolling, and probably should be closed by now.

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Does that mean Democrats win? Tell me that Democrats won.

 

Well, whiz' arguments did fall flat on their smallish faces, so I suppose those supporting the Democrats won.

[Dark]

Meaning Democrats > Republicans. Meaning this thread = lock. :D

 

I'm afraid repeating something doesn't make it true. If' date=' as dictator said, all the posts contained within this thread were merely statements of democratic superiority or republican inferiority, than this thread would have proved nothing.

 

However, this is not the case. I know, at least, that I have made several substantive posts within the thread,and I believe a few others have as well. It can be noted that these substantive posts were never truly refuted by the conservative members of this board: meaning that yes, the democrats won. ;)

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Plus, Obama has super powers.

 

+1 internets.

 

That was an epic video.

[The Dark One]

Meaning Democrats > Republicans. Meaning this thread = lock. :D

 

I'm afraid repeating something doesn't make it true. If' date=' as dictator said, all the posts contained within this thread were merely statements of democratic superiority or republican inferiority, than this thread would have proved nothing.

 

However, this is not the case. I know, at least, that I have made several substantive posts within the thread,and I believe a few others have as well. It can be noted that these substantive posts were never truly refuted by the conservative members of this board: meaning that yes, the democrats won. ;)

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Plus, Obama has super powers.

 

He's come to save the day! +1

[Sparta™]

While it's funny to see the computerwhiz's lame attempts at argument fall flat on their face' date=' I must admit that this thread has degenerated into simple trolling, and probably should be closed by now.

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It's degenerated into trolling because the whole internet is full of Democrats that obviously just take shots at this thread with troll posts, because they can't put up a good enough reason to prove me wrong. Not because I should have the powers to prove you all wrong at the same time.

 

So I would be happy to debate you, but not 15 vs. 1. Slow them posts down.

[OMGAKITTY]

While it's funny to see the computerwhiz's lame attempts at argument fall flat on their face' date=' I must admit that this thread has degenerated into simple trolling, and probably should be closed by now.

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It's degenerated into trolling because the whole internet is full of Democrats that obviously just take shots at this thread with troll posts, because they can't put up a good enough reason to prove me wrong. Not because I should have the powers to prove you all wrong at the same time.

 

So I would be happy to debate you, but not 15 vs. 1. Slow them posts down.

 

lolburdenofblame?

Has this become a lolreligion thread nao?

[Dark]

While it's funny to see the computerwhiz's lame attempts at argument fall flat on their face' date=' I must admit that this thread has degenerated into simple trolling, and probably should be closed by now.

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It's degenerated into trolling because the whole internet is full of Democrats that obviously just take shots at this thread with troll posts, because they can't put up a good enough reason to prove me wrong. Not because I should have the powers to prove you all wrong at the same time.

 

So I would be happy to debate you, but not 15 vs. 1. Slow them posts down.

 

lolburdenofblame?

Has this become a lolreligion thread nao?

 

lolreligion

 

We can't prove you wrong, because you are too stubborn and/or stupid to accept that you are wrong.

[OMGAKITTY]

That's...not burden of proof. :/

[Dark]

I know it's not. I was just saying how stupid smart computerwhiz is.

[The Dark One]

While it's funny to see the computerwhiz's lame attempts at argument fall flat on their face' date=' I must admit that this thread has degenerated into simple trolling, and probably should be closed by now.

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It's degenerated into trolling because the whole internet is full of Democrats that obviously just take shots at this thread with troll posts, because they can't put up a good enough reason to prove me wrong. Not because I should have the powers to prove you all wrong at the same time.

 

So I would be happy to debate you, but not 15 vs. 1. Slow them posts down.

 

Let's go then. You pick a specific topic (Healthcare, WiI, torture, death penalty, etc. etc.) and explain and support your stance on it. I'll prove you wrong if I think you are wrong. If I don't think you are, well good for you, I guess.

[~/Coolio Prime\~]

And we'll stay out of it to let you get the 1 v. 1 you're hoping for.

[Dark]

TDO, you are representing the Democrats as a whole (on this website, in this thread). Don't screw this up. Remember, his posts have little or no logic to them. Use that to your advantage!

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TDO' date=' you are representing the Democrats as a whole (on this website, in this thread). Don't screw this up. Remember, his posts have little or no logic to them. Use that to your advantage!

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No one can represent a group as a whole, because there is always someone who will not agree. I am a republican because I believe in the principles of capitalism, small government, and free enterprise. I do not however believe in reducing the rights of the minority, a practice which many republicans believe in.

[The Dark One]

TDO' date=' you are representing the Democrats as a whole (on this website, in this thread). Don't screw this up. Remember, his posts have little or no logic to them. Use that to your advantage!

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No one can represent a group as a whole, because there is always someone who will not agree. I am a republican because I believe in the principles of capitalism, small government, and free enterprise. I do not however believe in reducing the rights of the minority, a practice which many republicans believe in.

 

You mean you're a Capitalist and a Conservative.

 

Democrats are capitalists too you know. Just most aren't into laissez faire capitalism, which has been proven pretty soundly to be a terrible idea. Republicans usually aren't in support of this either, they just yell at the democrats for being socialist every time they suggest a law that puts a sensible restriciton on capitalism because they want to keep lining their own pockets.

 

Oh, and the Republican party clearly does not support small government. if you need proof, look at Bush. Or Bush Senior. Or Reagan. The Republican party is composed of neo-conservatives, and they really don't promote conservatism anymore. True conservatism is actually a very legitimate political theory. Republicans aren't it.

 

Oh, and @ Wizzy: I'm still waiting.

[Scyire]

Whatever happens with anything political, one side will love it, and one side will hate it.

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TDO' date=' you are representing the Democrats as a whole (on this website, in this thread). Don't screw this up. Remember, his posts have little or no logic to them. Use that to your advantage!

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No one can represent a group as a whole, because there is always someone who will not agree. I am a republican because I believe in the principles of capitalism, small government, and free enterprise. I do not however believe in reducing the rights of the minority, a practice which many republicans believe in.

 

You mean you're a Capitalist and a Conservative.

 

Democrats are capitalists too you know. Just most aren't into laissez faire capitalism, which has been proven pretty soundly to be a terrible idea. Republicans usually aren't in support of this either, they just yell at the democrats for being socialist every time they suggest a law that puts a sensible restriciton on capitalism because they want to keep lining their own pockets.

 

Oh, and the Republican party clearly does not support small government. if you need proof, look at Bush. Or Bush Senior. Or Reagan. The Republican party is composed of neo-conservatives, and they really don't promote conservatism anymore. True conservatism is actually a very legitimate political theory. Republicans aren't it.

 

Oh, and @ Wizzy: I'm still waiting.

 

I agree with most of what you say, but I am not talking about Bush or any of the other borderline theocrats out there. Usually socializing anything is a bad idea. Certain things should be socialized like schools, roads, and libraries. Other things such as the auto industry, factories, etc. shouldn't be socialized. The things we enjoy in America come through capitalism.

 

Yes, the Republican Party has many faults and they all come from when the religious right took dominance. Many republicans, like myself, want to take back the party from the church, however they don't get as much press as the crazy republicans because most of the media is liberal.

 

The Democrats aren't as "for the people" as they are currently painted. From the end of the Civil War, African Americans almost unanimously favored the Republican Party due to its overwhelming political and more tangible efforts in achieving abolition, particularly through President Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation. The south had long been a Democrat stronghold, favoring a state's right to legal slavery. In addition, the ranks of the fledgling Ku Klux Klan were comprised almost entirely of white Democrats angry over poor treatment by northerners, both perceived and actual.Passage from here

[The Dark One]

TDO' date=' you are representing the Democrats as a whole (on this website, in this thread). Don't screw this up. Remember, his posts have little or no logic to them. Use that to your advantage!

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No one can represent a group as a whole, because there is always someone who will not agree. I am a republican because I believe in the principles of capitalism, small government, and free enterprise. I do not however believe in reducing the rights of the minority, a practice which many republicans believe in.

 

You mean you're a Capitalist and a Conservative.

 

Democrats are capitalists too you know. Just most aren't into laissez faire capitalism, which has been proven pretty soundly to be a terrible idea. Republicans usually aren't in support of this either, they just yell at the democrats for being socialist every time they suggest a law that puts a sensible restriciton on capitalism because they want to keep lining their own pockets.

 

Oh, and the Republican party clearly does not support small government. if you need proof, look at Bush. Or Bush Senior. Or Reagan. The Republican party is composed of neo-conservatives, and they really don't promote conservatism anymore. True conservatism is actually a very legitimate political theory. Republicans aren't it.

 

Oh, and @ Wizzy: I'm still waiting.

 

I agree with most of what you say, but I am not talking about Bush or any of the other borderline theocrats out there. Usually socializing anything is a bad idea. Certain things should be socialized like schools, roads, and libraries. Other things such as the auto industry, factories, etc. shouldn't be socialized. The things we enjoy in America come through capitalism.

 

Yes, the Republican Party has many faults and they all come from when the religious right took dominance. Many republicans, like myself, want to take back the party from the church, however they don't get as much press as the crazy republicans because most of the media is liberal.

 

The Democrats aren't as "for the people" as they are currently painted. From the end of the Civil War, African Americans almost unanimously favored the Republican Party due to its overwhelming political and more tangible efforts in achieving abolition, particularly through President Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation. The south had long been a Democrat stronghold, favoring a state's right to legal slavery. In addition, the ranks of the fledgling Ku Klux Klan were comprised almost entirely of white Democrats angry over poor treatment by northerners, both perceived and actual.Passage from here

 

I disagree completely with your painting of the media as liberal. MSNBC is, certainly, but Fox is its Conservative counter-part, and both are quite terrible sources for anyone to get their news. CNN is pretty nondenominational, though one could argue that they are sensationalistic.

 

More importantly though is that last block you pasted. The Democratic and Republican parties have undergone several radical shifts in political views over the years since that period. The actual "party" you are a part of is irrelevant except when discussing your own time period because the party is not at all the same in two different time periods.

 

As it so happens, the Republican party was the liberal party of the day, while the Democratic party was the conservative party. Abraham Lincoln, Republican or not, was a liberal. In today's world he would likely be a democrat.

[Dark]

Oh, and @ Wizzy: I'm still waiting.

 

You are going to be waiting for a long time. You are telling him to debate on a topic he is assured to lose.

[Kenny Bohner]

They were the best thing to come along. For example' date=' remember Ronald Reagan? [b']Bush Sr? Bush Jr?[/b] Are you retarted? Abraham Lincoln? George Washington? He strongly opposed political parties! Theodore Roosevelt?Founded the Democratic-Republican Party (later the Democratic) Some current people that are great They are all great people. What's wrong with Conservative thoughts? What is wrong with low Taxes? What is wrong with cutting spending? What is wrong with more power to the states instead of federal government controlling everything? What's wrong with opposing gun control? Cop-killing bullets. Inter-city kids with heat. Only practical use is hunting, which is a barbaric, dated, and unneccesary pastime. Why does everyone hate Sarah Palin? Don't even get me started... she doesn't understand politics. Period. Neither Liberal or Conservative. She's an air-headed bimbo (or, at least, Caribou Barbie). Are the Democrats afraid of her because she has potential to win 2012? I lol'd. You know who started this mess? Clinton. Oh, you mean that moron who BLANCED THE NATIONAL DEBT!? Seriously... Remember when Clinton signed the Consumer Reinvestment Act? That gave financial institutions even more power that eventually led to the collapse of our financial system because of their greed. Key note Democratic politicians Sen. Dodd, Sen. Reed, and the infamous Barney Frank were instrumental in aiding for having laws passed that sent us the final blow.

 

Now that the long speech is over, what is wrong with Republicans and Conservatives? Because Conservative thinking relies on the theory that if the rich get richer, the poor will follow suit. This, however, is a load of crap. The rich get stingy, and the poor get poorer, the real reason for the economic slump. Because guns= murder. Deny this all you want, but weapons do no good to a progressive society... the "right to bear arms" was based on the fear of invasion, which clearly isn't viable today. Because their environmental policies will result in us rapidly increasing global warming, with the smog, and the lack of control laws (which, by the way, Dubya [for idiot Republicans, George W. Bush] didn't pass because he was afraid that they'd hurt the economy, just like Australlia. Guess what? Everyone who signed it surpassed us in economic strength. Good call, Dubya), will trap all the sun's heat in the atmosphere, and boil us all like eggs. There is sufficient evidence. There is known prevention. There is no excuse. Also, inhumane practices, such as torture. Not taxing churches (not meant to offend religious people, but they should pay taxes like any other buisness)... face it, Conservatives, YOU LOSE.

 

 

No matter what happens, even though I do not like what's happening, Obama is my president, and I will always support the office of the presidency. Idiotic! If the President blows, you've got to do something! That's the premise of Democracy... if the leader's no good, you replace him. You certainly didn't hesitate in impeaching Bill Clinton when he got a (CENSORED FOR SEXUAL CONTENT) in the White House, which was totally inside of the law.

[Lemniscate]

Simple thing with gun control: second amendment, end of story.

Lower taxes: please look at Laffer curve.

Unions: mobocracy, minority tyranny.

Foreign Policy: "Peace through Strength" - Ronald Reagan

Entitlements: It is not the government's place to fill any and all social or economic needs of the people, it is the job of the government to give a stable and readily available stage for those problems to be solved by the people themselves.

State's Rights vs. Federal Rights: In recent years, there has been a growth of the term "unfunded mandate", which is used by both Congress, the White House, and the Courts as a way to circumvent the 10th amendment.

 

I could go on, but I am tired, and am going to sleep.

[Tabris]

Simple thing with gun control: second amendment, end of story.

 

Sure. I don't, and won't, bear arms, but I won't go paranoid over who amongst all the millions of people in the US is a lunatical gunslinger. I don't want violence, but neither do I want hysteria.

 

Lower taxes: please look at Laffer curve.

 

I don't know much about economics, but I do know that the Republicans do have a tendency to lower the taxes on the upper classes.

 

Unions: mobocracy, minority tyranny.

 

I realize that (especially after GM unionized itself into bankruptcy), but I also realize the danger that lies at the other extreme: chronically underpaid workers toiling in subhuman conditions with no representation whatsoever to speak of. That, or the other.

 

Foreign Policy: "Peace through Strength" - Ronald Reagan

 

Which ideally would mean a more laid-back approach, not this overeager world-domination scheme ineffectually masked benevolent hegemonic triumphalism.

 

Entitlements: It is not the government's place to fill any and all social or economic needs of the people, it is the job of the government to give a stable and readily available stage for those problems to be solved by the people themselves.

 

Which is best achieved by giving the people the best medical care and the best workplace benefits possible.

 

No comment on the states' rights debacle; I have virtually no idea what to say on that part.