Phantom Roxas Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 If this card battles with your opponent's monster' date=' you can return both monsters to their owners' hands at the start of the Damage Step (without damage calculation).[/quote'] The last topic about this guy was three months ago, so I think we can discuss him again. I was discussing with a few members about the potential of the Neo-Spacians resurfacing in 5D's for the sole purpose of completing the NEX series when Mystery Guest pointed out a problem. Should Grand Mole's NEX form (code-named "Gurren Mole") be released, it would be unusable with Grand Mole at 1. tl;dr: Where would you put this on the banlist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Konamilogic states that, if two or more "balanced" cards are causing a problematic combo, then all pieces of the combo must be Limited in order to severely decrease the chances of the combo happening while still maintaining playability of each (usually). They decided the problematic combo of Rescue Cat + Airbellum was actually a Summon Priest + Rescue Cat combo, so they limited each. That, and they banned DSF, but that could have easily been a separate judgment.Because of this Konamilogic, as long as Ultimate Offering isn't at 0, it and Neo-Spacian Grand Mole must be put at 1. NSGM should be at 3, but only if Ultimate Offering is put to 0 at the same time. MAYBE it would do good at 2 with UO at 1. If Konami made a Gurren Mole, they might put NSGM at 2, knowing you would have only one in your Main Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Great card. With synchros every where he makes a great counter to them. Place on a ban list is at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 At 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 code-named "Gurren Mole" Gurren Lagen Mole I C wut u did thar Its NEX form would have a one-sided verson of it's current form.And Mole would have to be at 2, for it's NEX form to at least be at 1.Since the NEX forms have the oh-so convienyent effect of "This card's name is also treated as your favorite monster" part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 ... W-wait... So the NEX versions also count as the Spacian, even in the Fusion Deck? I couldn't have Two Glow Moss and Two Twinkle Moss, because that's 4? Wow, that sucks. But, ya' learn something new everyday. I'd + Rep someone for helping me figure that out, but I can't indentify which one of the above 3 helped me figure it out, and I don't wanna give out 3 reps for one thing. On-topic: If the return of a card on the field to your hand/Extra Deck is such a huge abomination that it causes you to lose the duel, then you, quite frankly, deserve to lose the duel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted August 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Pika, you can rep Mystery Guest, since I learned this from him. Tenga Toppa Neo-Spacian Gurren Lagann MoleEARTHLevel 41300/700Rock/Fusion/EffectThis card cannot be Special Summoned except with "NEX" or by it's own effect. This card's name is treated as "Neo-Spacian Grand Mole". If this card battles with your opponent's monster, you can send that monster to the bottom of your opponent's Deck. If you do, change this card's Battle Position. This card's battle position cannot be changed until the end of the next turn, except with a card effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 If they bring Gurren Mole to the US, they could simply rule that, while Neo-Spacian Grand Mole is semi-limited, you can only have 1 Neo-Spacian Grand Mole in your main deck and 1 in your Extra Deck, although that would be going against the perfect Konamilogic of which noone can oppose... << it would be a classic BKSS moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xazeon Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 My favorite card. Liek, evah. The only good Neo-Spacian IMO. I wish it was at three, since I have three D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Really great for synchros. And for mystery guest, i'd never even heard of people thinking GM + UO being a problematic combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Wolf Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 1. Unlimit this2. Rock Stun becomes 1 of the top decks3. ?????4. Profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 ^ ORLY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Wolf Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 ^ ORLY? YARLY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 1. Unlimit this2. Rock Stun becomes 1 of the top decks3. ?????4. Profit This kid is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Wolf Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 1. Unlimit this2. Rock Stun becomes 1 of the top decks3. ?????4. Profit This kid is amazing. why thank u my good sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyfi Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 1. Unlimit this2. Rock Stun becomes 1 of the top decks3. ?????4. Profit This kid is amazing. He is your Father, he is everybody's father don't call you father a kid. Anyways, It belongs at 3 and The ruling that the NEX fusion and the originals count as the same card even in your extra deck stinks :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 That's what I have to say to 90% of the topic. Anyways, I don't get why this is at 1 in the first place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 1. Unlimit this2. Rock Stun becomes 1 of the top decks3. ?????4. Profit This kid is amazing. why thank u my good sir Why indeed a mole with a drill attached to its neck wearing sunglasses and can drill a hole through someones stomach would be good... ... like around the start of Episode 7 in Needless >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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