Thegargoylevine Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 I'm back here again after abandoning Yugioh for about one year, and quite a lot has happened! Could somebody please give me a single list of current staples so I can get started on making decks again? And please don't the Yugioh Wikia list, because I've seen it and believe there are more than that.Oh yeah, and Extra Deck staples too please. I'm not too familiar with all of the Synchro action that occuring right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 heavy storm. aside from that, it depends what youre building.actually, you dont always use heavy storm either. i got nuttin.you name a card considered a staple and i've run a deck that would be hurt by its inclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkaiser Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 Brain Control is the staple amongst staples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegargoylevine Posted April 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 I'm trying to make an Alien deck right now, but I want to know what's good for MOST decks. I considered MST a staple back in the day, for example, and I don't see how it can hurt any deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Black Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 Torrential tribute is a good staple. Solemn Judgment and Trap Dustshoot aren't fully staples, but are used a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 brain control is useless in empty jar. and most alternative win condition decks, really. like its okay, but its outclassed. mst is fine for aliens and most things, but is usually outclassed in decks relying on an otk by heavy storm and trunade.torrential would really hurt a deck that couldnt resupply its field quickly.solemn is iffy, as with dust shoot. theyre just not high priority all the time. for aliens.. sheet, i dont know how they run, but i would imagine they can use most normal staples, which are probably all things youve seen before. heavy storm, giant trunade, mst, brain control, torrential, sangan, etcsome newer cards of high use are mind control, plaguespreader, starlight road, gorz/traggs (depends on deck really)...i'll think of more sooner or later. example of how common staples might hurt a given deck include trunade funking endymion decks or heavy storm messing with skill/oppression decks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegargoylevine Posted April 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 Thanks guys. I didn't even know about Starlight Road until today, and it seems like the perfect counter to Judgement Dragon! But what about Syncros? I don't know what a "good" extra deck looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 Heavy StormGiant TrunadeCall of the HauntedMystical Space TyphoonSolemn JudgmentLightning VortexRaigeki BreakDark BribeGold SarcophagusPot of AvariceBrain ControlSmashing GroundBottomless Trap HoleTorrential TributeMirror Force ...are all general staple cards. Many decks probably won't include EVERY one of these, but most of these are excellent choices. For example, a deck that doesn't fill up the Graveyard very quickly is going to find PoA useless. Side Deck choices are going to include Royal Decree, Royal Oppression, and...(actually, I don't know much about the side deck, so I'll stop before I say something stupid). Extra Deck is going to REQUIRE Stardust, Red Dragon Archfiend, Black Rose Dragon, Goyo Guardian, Ally of Justice Catastor, Thought Ruler Archfiend, Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier and probably some others.Other useful ones include Colossal Fighter, Armory Arm, Ancient Fairy Dragon, Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier, and Mist Wurm. If you're going for an Alien Deck, you should know they do have a very powerful Tuner called Alien Ammonite, which all but automatically Synchros into Cosmic Fortress Gol'gar, which is a really incredible card. It also combos well with Grave of the Super-Ancient Organism (WC10 can teach you some things. EDIT: Crap, if you can, add a Battle Fader or two. Also, an Alien Deck can probably benefit from Solidarity, and maybe Cyber Valley for draw power (since it and Battle Fader both RFG themselves, they won't affect Solidarity, too!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegargoylevine Posted April 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 I'm confused... Back when I was playing, it was all about Card advantage and 1-for-1s, and attack power was secondary. But now people are using Solidarity and Burden of the Mighty! What's going on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 i dont really find raigeki break run all that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 A lot of the field wiping staples have been sorta nerfed after Starlight Road came out.But there's always good for siding in round 2 or something if Starlight Road is that much of a problem.Just be aware of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 I'm confused... Back when I was playing' date=' it was all about Card advantage and 1-for-1s, and attack power was secondary. But now people are using Solidarity and Burden of the Mighty! What's going on here?[/quote'] Solidarity and/or Burden of the Mighty are extremely useful cards for decks that take some time to get going, like Aliens or Spellcasters. For example, if your opponent summons a 1900 ATK monster, the best you can do on your first turn is match that with Shocktrooper or waste a Smashing Ground etc. on it. With Solidarity, all of your Aliens have staying power, which is key for a control-oriented deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbdnate Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 I'm confused... Back when I was playing' date=' it was all about Card advantage and 1-for-1s, and attack power was secondary. But now people are using Solidarity and Burden of the Mighty! What's going on here?[/quote'] The game is still about that... Solidarity is generally a bad card. Burden is only used in a few control orientated decks... A lot of times it will be used in tandem with King Tiger Wanghu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 HeavyBrainTorrentialSolemnPetit Moth Pretty much the basics. The others are workable based on what your Deck is. Extra Deck Staples: Stardust DragonGoyo GuardianBrionac, Dragon of the Ice BoundaryRare FishBlack Rose Dragon Again, the rest based on your Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalflygon08 Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 Machiner's Fortress at least at my locals, everyone who needs to dump a monster or 2 from their hand runs it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 For the Extra Deck, the ones I add into any deck are: Mist WurmRed Dragon ArchfiendStardust DragonBlack Rose DragonPsychic LifetrancerGoyo GuardianBrionac, Dragon of the Ice BarrierFlamvell UruquizasMagical AndroidAlly of Justice CatastorArmory Arm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 I'm confused... Back when I was playing' date=' it was all about Card advantage and 1-for-1s, and attack power was secondary. But now people are using Solidarity and Burden of the Mighty! What's going on here?[/quote'] The game is still about that... Solidarity is generally a bad card. Burden is only used in a few control orientated decks... A lot of times it will be used in tandem with King Tiger Wanghu. Burden is fun with King Tiger Wanghu. Thats it's best used.Solidarity isn't a bad card, there are just better cards usually to run. It makes the game more fun aswell, like when you have 3 Solidaritys on the field, which makes me lmao and i pull it off quite a few times IRL. Thread Creator - Take a look at this link http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-195585.html Click on the spoilers on the first post and you can see all the peoples strongest points in making decks. There is as i recall only 1 person that has sighed up with aliens and thats Dark_Armed_Zombie. If you contact him and ask if you can get help on how to make an alien deck (Say you went to the thread with the link above), he should help you. Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraz Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 I'm confused... Back when I was playing' date=' it was all about Card advantage and 1-for-1s, and attack power was secondary. But now people are using Solidarity and Burden of the Mighty! What's going on here?[/quote'] Attack stats have always been relevant. They're less relevant in the monarch match but still relevant. Cyber Dragon was played in 3 because it could attack over gravekeeper spies and jujitsus without using up a normal summon, jujitsus were used because nobody played monsters with more than 1800atk while being able to deal with anyone that played 1800+ guys, hydrogedons were used because they could attack over Dekoichis and sangan and help even out card advantage, etc... Simple +1s thanks to my guy being bigger than yours has pretty much always been the basis of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 Stardust Dragon [/thread] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 I'm confused... Back when I was playing' date=' it was all about Card advantage and 1-for-1s, and attack power was secondary. But now people are using Solidarity and Burden of the Mighty! What's going on here?[/quote'] 1. Mostly bad players run Solidarity in a competitive deck.2. Burden should only be used in a deck to stun your opponent with it and Wanghu, but it is also quite useful VS BWs (to nerf their BWW searches.)3. Destroying a monster in battle is a +1. 4. One year ago ... wasn't DSF legal back then? I am pretty sure that the DSF format didn't really care for card advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindTheMask Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 Stardust Dragon is the only real "staple" but even then, its pushing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 no... stardust is pretty universal.i even run him in flip trolls. seriously. ...i side trap eaters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatty Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 For Extra Deck, make sure you have at least 2 Stardust, 2 Thought Rulers, 1 Brionac, 1 Goyo and 1 Catastor. The rest is up to you really. Staple is everything that kills for free, and is not a monster. Take Smashing Ground, mst and Fissure. Offerings can hurt some decks, but is useful in many other. Raigeki break is not one of the best cards, but can really be useful. Also, Dimensional Prison is a nice pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 For Extra Deck' date=' make sure you have at least 2 Stardust, [b']0[/b] Thought Rulers, 1 Brionac, 1 Goyo and 1 Catastor. The rest is up to you really. Fix'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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