Great Unclean One: VK Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=850849 Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Why should it be banned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Unclean One: VK Posted June 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 TIV is a constant LV. They also did say that Sinister Serpent should be unbanned. I told them it's a constant +1. They say there's enough counters thus it should be legal and what's the harm in having Sinister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecoboy1324 Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Stupid Comment but what is LV. I mean is it really that much to use actual card names instead of double meaning abbreviations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Unclean One: VK Posted June 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Lightning Vortex my friend. I will someday try to rid Pojo of it's noobs. If that day truly comes, I shall reign as king of Pojo, and then shift my eye on YCM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 ok, I can see noobs saying serpent and other cards that which are weak themselves but combo like crazy should be unbanned, but tribe? no, just no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecoboy1324 Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 TIV is a constant LV. They also did say that Sinister Serpent should be unbanned. I told them it's a constant +1. They say there's enough counters thus it should be legal and what's the harm in having Sinister.Hey Guys' date='Lets unban Chaos Dragon becouse there are enough counters to counter it Or Lets unban Yata becouse there is enough counters to it Or Hell lets unban everything becouse there is enough to counter it [/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 LolYC-erLolPojo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 youre not a terrific representation of ycm, to be honest. makes me look bad. honestly, i don't think many top decks would run TIV as anything but a side against blackwings and machina. but the disgusting part is that it's a broken ass side against blackwings and machina. therefore, i don't think it should be unlisted. however, lightning vortex does the same thing, but with wider usage. it's one time use though, so that may be the difference. LV is only really useful in a one turn scenario for nuking. the problem therein is that it's a -2 from your hand, so if you're making a big overextending final move, you're already committing 2 advantage to it. it's often worth teching one or so, but not more than that. it's tough to say, but what i can say is that anyone who uses TIV as oneforone is funking stupid. and anyone who assumes it will always be a oneforone is even funking stupider. however, i can say that being in monster form makes this advantageous. it is superior to lightning vortex in specific circumstances in that regard. should it be banned? looking at the current trend of anti-theme support, it is easily a sidedeck option on par with LIM or SIM, not against everything, but in some circumstances. now i'm going to stop talking because i cant stop staring at that baka pikachu dancing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 *facepalm* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Unclean One: VK Posted June 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 My friends, I'm just horrid at trying to defend a point. Trust me, which is why I'm trying out debate club to see if it'll help me. But I truly haet Pojo noobs. The only true intelligent people there are Howard and a few people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 I would understand the points of being like a specific Lightning Vortex, but its an easy and continuous Type killer that will cost 1 less card advantage (monster stays, Lightning Vortex goes to Grave after being used).Also, you can also say its a Snipe Hunter that doesn't have the chance of failing and can take more than 1 card at a time. (of course, without being able to destroy s/t cards) I resently played against a Deck with this card (illegal obiously) and it does make a difference. Don't believe this will come back without some ruling change or the such) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Rrey Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Why do they even bother??? Doesn't their brains heat up too much while thinking like this??Seriously, i'm a shootin' meh lazar at pojo!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 *facepalm* i has this card and it show stay ban i remember the 1st Championship YGO game and WC 2006 i played and ran into this thing <.< it made my day horrible. This says FU to type based decks if unprepared and the discard cost can also work infavor of the Dark Worlds(though they do need some little help outside of the fabled) which gets you a free monster and nuke the field and you can do it multiple times per turn -.- the people on pojo need to get off the drugs or liquor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Gideon. Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Maybe it will be back to 1 we have many cards out there now that are far more broken than TIV this card can be either a smashing ground with a cost, or a LVSmashing with a cost is terribleLV is afraid from SLR Maybe it's just me, but that's my opinion, TIV will be ok @ 1 this format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Ed said that if he got DAD, he would immidiatly sell it, and it's impossible to summon it. General Zorpa said Assla Piscu needs 3 tributes. He also said XYZ-Dragon Cannon is 5/5 in Advanced. Freeza said that RDA is in every single good Extra Deck. The creator of Pojo mistook Black Potan with Black-Winged Dragon. And Dark Paladin graded Savior Star Dragon as 5/5 in Traditional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanAtlus Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Ed said that if he got DAD' date=' he would immidiatly sell it, and it's impossible to summon it. General Zorpa said Assla Piscu needs 3 tributes. He also said XYZ-Dragon Cannon is 5/5 in Advanced. Freeza said that RDA is in every single good Extra Deck. The creator of Pojo mistook Black Potan with Black-Winged Dragon. And Dark Paladin graded Savior Star Dragon as 5/5 in Traditional.[/quote'] We've got worse.I'm pretty sure that if all the n00bs who just have an account to make monster-specific hero support actually became active members, this site would die after a long flame period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Guys, Pot of Green should be unlimited, theres so many counters to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Guys' date=' Pot of Green should be unlimited, theres so many counters to it.[/quote'] Banlists are here for a reason, to prevent broken play from cards in old packs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 lol @ the guy who said TIV can only be used once per turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Maybe it will be back to 1 we have many cards out there now that are far more broken than TIV this card can be either a smashing ground with a cost' date=' or a LVSmashing with a cost is terribleLV is afraid from SLR Maybe it's just me, but that's my opinion, TIV will be ok @ 1 this format.[/quote'] this is about the only thing worth responding to in this topic.frankly, you're right, but also stupidly wrong. there are things more broken than LV or TIV out right now. like JD. the problem with using this logic as an argument for unbanning a card is that the cards that are more broken than TIV or LV, like JD, are bannable. you know what else is more broken than TIV? the envoys. so because TIV is less than some other card, does that mean it shouldn't be banned? funk no. draw the god damned line. it shouldn't have to be relative to every new banlist and set. it should be a fixed threshold for how much bullshit can be contained in one card. i don't give a sheet if we have more broken unbanned sheet. that doesn't mean TIV needs to be added to the pile of unbanned broken sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 My friends' date=' I'm just horrid at trying to defend a point. Trust me, which is why I'm trying out debate club to see if it'll help me. But I truly haet Pojo noobs. The only true [b']intelligent[/b] people there are Howard and a few people. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! *takes a breath* Anyway, Tribe is a mediocre card that will have no impact on the format whatsoever. Contrary to the popular belief, it doesn't affect Machina and BW, because they rarely have more than 2 monsters on the field, and when they do, they are either floaters or have enough ATK to push for game. @3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Guy Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 I would not say this card is broken, but since a lot of archetypes have monsters that are the same types, you can use this and destroy them all (if they are the same type of course.)So this should not be unlimited. Pojo people are ridiculously stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Chaos™ Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Wait a second Pojo thinks that Tribe Infecting Virus should be Unbanned!?Hold on just a second...(Leaves Room for a Second.) Hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah! (Returns to Room)Now back on Topic.From now on we will call anyone who thinks that TIV should be Unbanned not Stupid, a Noob or any of those names but instead we will call them a Pojoer. Is it Good Enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Nothing good would ever come from Tribe being legal. The sad actuality is that every deck that swarms the field and justifies a legal Tribe is going to win the turn it swarms or the turn after Tribe drops regardless of what is lost. You cannot stop an Infernity FTK' date=' X-Saber OTK, or Blackwing OTK with a Tribe Infecting Virus. What Tribe would be hitting is every single other deck sub tier 1 broken level, where-in Tribe will hit 1 or a couple fo monsters each time it drops and will likely be the winning blow in numerous games, as it always was. A late game turn and investment into a solid monster or combo should not be rewarded by a mindless Normal Summon and discard to give your opponent the win. Tribe hurts every player in the game except the players who deserve to be hurt. That's why it is banned.[/quote'] You guys can all laugh, but only Romancer actually gave a good reason for why it shouldn't be unbanned while the rest giggled in your little hive-mind, completely ignorant of your many flaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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