BehindTheMask Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Banned ? (unconfirmed) Rescue CatSubstitoadCold Wave Limited 8 (working on sources/translations) Caius the Shadow MonarchMagician of FaithTreeborn FrogInfernity LauncherBlack WhirlwindDark HolePot of DualityBottomless Trap Hole Semi-limited 8 (working on sources/translations) Foolish BurialPot of AvariceIcarus AttackInfernity ArchfiendBurial from a Different DimensionTrishula, Dragon of the Ice BarrierGladiator Beast War ChariotDark Grepher Unlimited 3 (confirmed) Ultimate OfferingUnited We StandSkill Drain For the sake of discussion...what types of decks would you play, etc. THIS LIST ISNT CONFIRMED FYI I'd probably play Glads still. The deck lost 1 Samnite 1 Cat and/or 1 Chariot. Nothing we can't replace. What deck would you run? Would you like this format? Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 The bans look fine. Wish Launcher was there. I saw Dark Hole limited and started laughing. Pot of Duality Limited? I think not. It balances itself by only letting one be used a turn and preventing Special Summons. Limiting it is pointless unless something I'm not aware of broke it. Magician of Faith limited is...interesting. Semi-limiting Dark Grepher does not kill Infernity very well. Infernity Archfiend seems so predictable semi-ed and Launcher limited. It's just as I predicted. But all in all, probably not real, and it doesn't hurt X-Sabers at all. I know the list is judged by OCG standards, but Konami should know that the TCG Sabers are broke beyond belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Banned ? (unconfirmed)Rescue CatokSubstitoadokCold Wavereally how this get on the fake Limited 8 (working on sources/translations)Caius the Shadow MonarchokMagician of Faithwould not mind seeing this backTreeborn Frogback to where it was XDInfernity Launcheralmost thereBlack Whirlwinddo good BWs use this that muchDark HoleWTF how this get moved even on the fake listPot of Dualityon this get on the fake O.oBottomless Trap Holethis better not be on the real one Semi-limited 8 (working on sources/translations)Foolish Burialdon't see this moving back up to 2 on the real onePot of AvariceI guess even if it is a fakeIcarus AttackWow O.o really don't see this happeningInfernity ArchfiendokBurial from a Different Dimensionwho in there right mind would but this back at 2 O.oTrishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrierok but i think mist wurm should also be hereGladiator Beast War ChariotokDark Grepherif this is true i don't see it stopping much of nothingUnlimited 3 (confirmed)Ultimate OfferingThough not many use this still don't see this going up to 3United We StandAre they trying to make people want to use lolequips if this was trueSkill Drainok IF this was true i would just do an lolPTD deck runing 3 United We Stands n scapegoat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ririkun Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 pot of duality is broken. Almost every deck benefits from using one, even one that focuses on special summoning.It makes Blackwings a scary force because they have this+cards for black feathers+allure of darkness, massive draw power.It makes Stun very effective since they don't special summon often anyway. Also, it helps you greatly to draw cards thatyou sided in. Limiting it would be a good idea...especially since it's so expensive -.- I don't want to see other ppl running 3 of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 do good BWs use this that much No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 LimitedDark Hole And why does this list have Avarice Semi-Limited? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Good Blackwings max Black Whirlwind. Rescue Cat: Sure. Do it. I don't care anymore.Substitoad: Because Ronintoadin isn't the broken one. But fine, at least it fixes the problem.Cold Wave: Fine, I guess. Caius the Shadow Monarch: Why?Magician of Faith: Well...actually, I wanted to test this @1, so sure.Treeborn Frog: Not that different from being @2.Infernity Launcher: Yeah...um...just 1 fewer.Black Whirlwind: Look, just ban it, okay? I can tell you guys want to.Dark Hole: Huh?Pot of Duality: I've never used it, so I can't comment.Bottomless Trap Hole: No. Foolish Burial: Should be @3.Pot of Avarice: I usually only use 2, anyway. But really, there's no reason for this.Icarus Attack: Who would use 3, anyway?Infernity Archfiend: -.- You guys really don't know what you're doing, do you?Burial from a Different Dimension: Fine, but do something about Vayu.Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier: ITBL (In This Ban List): Mist Wurm does not exist. What's the point of it, really?Gladiator Beast War Chariot: So, Semi-ing seems to be Konami's way of saying, "You're on notice, card." I mean, it doesn't mean much.Dark Grepher: Nope, you guys have NO idea what you're doing at all. Ultimate Offering: Good.United We Stand: Er...Skill Drain: Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbu-of-Sand Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 /does what DeathSDelano did[spoiler=/doesn't want to page stretch]Banned ? (unconfirmed) Rescue Cat YesSubstitoad YesCold Wave No Limited 8 (working on sources/translations) Caius the Shadow Monarch No?Magician of Faith No?Treeborn Frog YesInfernity Launcher YesBlack Whirlwind Yes?Dark Hole NoPot of Duality NoBottomless Trap Hole No? Semi-limited 8 (working on sources/translations) Foolish Burial Yes?Pot of Avarice Yes?Icarus Attack Yes?Infernity Archfiend YesBurial from a Different Dimension No?Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier YesGladiator Beast War Chariot No?Dark Grepher Yes? Unlimited 3 (confirmed) Ultimate Offering Yes?United We Stand NoSkill Drain Yes The No's(?)Caius the Shadow Monarch - Not really sure, but probably most likely won't happen.Cold Wave - Isn't ban worthy. Limited is it's place.Magician of Faith - Interesting, but probably not.Dark Hole - Still too OP'd. It's pretty much Raigeki if you don't have any monsters.Pot of Duality - Sure it fits in almost any Deck, but the drawbacks IMO balance itself out.Bottomless Trap Hole - Isn't Limited worthy IMO, but can happen.Gladiator Beast War Chariot - Isn't Semi-Limited worthy IMO, but can happen.United We Stand - Most likely won't happen, but it's possible.Burial from a Different Dimension - Isn't Semi-Limited worthy IMO, but can happen. With this, I'd still most likely run my Anti-Meta Deck xD Seeing if this ban list was real, only thing that would hurt it at most was Bottomless Trap Hole being Limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 foolish at 2 and magician at 1 makes my flip trolls hella consistent. it's a good day to live in a jar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Banned ? (unconfirmed) Rescue Cat GoodSubstitoad GoodCold Wave Why? Limited 8 (working on sources/translations) Caius the Shadow Monarch I can understandMagician of Faith GoodTreeborn Frog BetterInfernity Launcher BetterBlack Whirlwind BetterDark Hole >_>Pot of Duality BetterBottomless Trap Hole No Semi-limited 8 (working on sources/translations) Who cares Foolish Burial Pot of AvariceIcarus AttackInfernity ArchfiendBurial from a Different DimensionTrishula, Dragon of the Ice BarrierGladiator Beast War ChariotDark Grepher Unlimited 3 (confirmed) Ultimate Offering NoUnited We Stand NoSkill Drain YesOver all everything is moving towards the right direction. So it's not bad. I'd keep using GB, BW, and Zombie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 As much as I can see where you are comming from for each switch, changes this major and in such a number aren't going to happen, at least... not all at once. ITT: Props for making the weekly "Ban List Prediction" Thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Banned ? (unconfirmed) Rescue Cat GoodSubstitoad GoodCold Wave Meh Limited 8 (working on sources/translations) Caius the Shadow Monarch Why?Magician of Faith Step in the right directionTreeborn Frog Step in the right directionInfernity Launcher Step in the right directionBlack Whirlwind Step in the right directionDark Hole What the f***?Pot of Duality MehBottomless Trap Hole Why? Semi-limited 8 (working on sources/translations) lolSemi Limit Foolish Burial Step in the right directionPot of Avarice NoIcarus Attack NoInfernity Archfiend What?Burial from a Different Dimension Step in the right directionTrishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier What?Gladiator Beast War Chariot NoDark Grepher No Unlimited 3 (confirmed) Ultimate Offering NoUnited We Stand NoSkill Drain Awesome For the sake of discussion...what types of decks would you play, etc. THIS LIST ISNT CONFIRMED FYI I'd probably play Glads still. The deck lost 1 Samnite 1 Cat and/or 1 Chariot. Nothing we can't replace. What deck would you run? Would you like this format? Discuss. Bans are good. Limits are stupid although some are a step in the right direction. Semi Limits are stupid but sadly a few of them are a step in the right direction and the Unlimits are bad for the most part but Skill Drain at 3 is good. This format would blow in general as with all lolKonami formats although it would be nice to see Infernities hurt and Frog FTK killed but Caius, Bottomless Trap Hole and Dark Hole at 1 are ridiculously absurd. The former 2 deserve to be at 3 and Dark Hole should stay banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaWave Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 I say we ban everything and start over. I dunno why. Just feel like trollin a bit before I hit the hay :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkest Hour Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 talk about banning cards you don't like... well...Dark Grepher needs to be banned. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 talk about banning cards you don't like... well...Dark Grepher needs to be banned. Seriously. Really? Care to explain why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkest Hour Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Really? Care to explain why?No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 No. Oh. OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 No.I think Sparks should be banned, and I'm not going to say why. Really, their is nothing wrong with Grepher since he's a -1 to get some set up. In a good format that won't be in the least game breaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Rrey Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Banned ? (unconfirmed) Rescue Cat We all knew it!Substitoad Agree!Cold Wave Do not agree. Limited 8 (working on sources/translations) Caius the Shadow Monarch Why not??Magician of Faith Why not??Treeborn Frog Ok!Infernity Launcher Agree!Black Whirlwind Agree.Dark Hole lolkeeptrollingPot of Duality Meh!Bottomless Trap Hole Explain please. Semi-limited 8 (working on sources/translations) Foolish Burial Why not??Pot of Avarice Mostly played at 2 or 3!Icarus Attack Mostly played at 2 or 3!Infernity Archfiend I expected this one.Burial from a Different Dimension Zombies fanboy??Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier Why not?? Now OCG will spam it 4 times instead of 5!Gladiator Beast War Chariot Isn't 2 the magic number??Dark Grepher Do not agree! Unlimited 3 (confirmed) Ultimate Offering Meh.United We Stand Why not??Skill Drain Why not?? For the sake of discussion...what types of decks would you play, etc. I'm thinking about playing Lightsworn B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 ...Duality had BETTER be a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 My deck almost unnafected. If this is true, I'll run just 1 Bottomless and my deck will be back to 40 cards, meaning I'll be able to win again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 People here do not think that COLD WAVE as in the most broken legal spell card does not warrant a ban. And the funny thing is that those arethe same people who think that the likes of Breaker should be banned. Good. Now start playing the damned game and stop being such idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Cold Wave is evil. It completely locks down S/Ts for two turns (your turn and opponent's). Not just ones on the field, but also stops activations and setting, leaving a player wide open for essentially 2 of your turns (the turn activated and the turn after it wore off, when they couldn't set the cards in hand). It is definitely banworthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 People here do not think that COLD WAVE as in the most broken legal spell card does not warrant a ban. And the funny thing is that those arethe same people who think that the likes of Breaker should be banned. Good. Now start playing the damned game and stop being such idiots. I get that it needs a ban, but I'd personally give that title to B-Con. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Cold Wave has done way more damage this format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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