.Nu-13 Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 You know the cards. Which one is better? Arma is sure effect, faster and searchable, but Grepher does the job better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Depends on the deck. Dark grepher for Speedy OTKs Arma for anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Run one of each in Infernities. I do not care bout other decks that run these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDKMRV Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Grepher is faster and can arguably be too fast. Armageddon is good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 In Destiny Heroes I discarded Dogma to summon him The following turn I used summoned Stratos for Malicious, dumped him to send Plaguespreader, special DAD, specialed Mail/Plague for Collossal Fighter removed Dogma to blow my opponent's monster and attacked for game with DESTINY HEROES! I'm glad I added Grepher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XX Saber- Dosequis Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 grepher owns arma, specisly because it supplies DAD with so much ammo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 [quote name='Expelsword' timestamp='1284054828' post='4611369'] In Destiny Heroes I discarded Dogma to summon him The following turn I used summoned Stratos for Malicious, dumped him to send Plaguespreader, special DAD, specialed Mail/Plague for Collossal Fighter removed Dogma to blow my opponent's monster and attacked for game with DESTINY HEROES! I'm glad I added Grepher [/quote] Oh god no, awful memories of teledad just came flooding back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttercup Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Until they bring back Necro Gardna to 3, Grepher is just better. Higher stats, an inherent Special Summon, it's way good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 dark grepher, for obvious reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 [quote name='Ser Warjacksworth' timestamp='1284058044' post='4611509'] Until they bring back Necro Gardna to 3, Grepher is just better. Higher stats, an inherent Special Summon, it's way good. [/quote] And a huge -3 to the hand with a Special Summon and discard to dump a card to the grave. Anyone who is claiming Grepher as straight up "better" with little to no actual reasons is flat out wrong. Armageddon Knight is more consistent and doesn't do huge -X to the hand. Dark Grepher is faster with the cost of taking away hand advantage. Armageddon Knight it used typically in non-turbo decks because of this while Grepher is used to flood the grave for game. They both have viable uses and it's mainly preference that decides which to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 I prefer Armegeddon Knight ....Mostly because I dont always run [i]THAT[/i] many DARKs, and just need a method to send [s]Level Eater[/s]some random DARK to the Graveyard for future shenanigans. Both are good, but its more of the users preference/the deck's speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ReBeL Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Dark grepher is way more playable unless you dont want it to be rfped then you stick with the slower version which is knight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttercup Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 [quote name='Dark_Armed_Zombie' timestamp='1284058561' post='4611525'] And a huge -3 to the hand with a Special Summon and discard to dump a card to the grave. Anyone who is claiming Grepher as straight up "better" with little to no actual reasons is flat out wrong. Armageddon Knight is more consistent and doesn't do huge -X to the hand. Dark Grepher is faster with the cost of taking away hand advantage. Armageddon Knight it used typically in non-turbo decks because of this while Grepher is used to flood the grave for game. They both have viable uses and it's mainly preference that decides which to use. [/quote] If Necro Gadna was at 3 in this format (no other changes to the banlist) AK would probably be better. Without it it's not as good because you don't get the ability to prevent massive tempo shifts that a slow non turbo deck wants. Most of the time you want DARK monsters in the Gravyard, even at the cost of card advantage. Infernities and Norleas variants don't want a lot of monsters in hand and they're the only 2 semi-competitive DARK decks. The hand discard ability of Grepher is too often a plus right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ReBeL Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Knight is only good when you want stuff like gardna and levl eater plz and stuff in the grave and you want to keep your hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Unclean One: VK Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Dark Grepher. Why? Insta DAD if you ever manage to get him into your hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 [quote name='GenzoTheHarpist' timestamp='1284057602' post='4611485'] Oh god no, awful memories of teledad just came flooding back. [/quote] I did this TODAY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 [quote name='General VK-Duelist/Shepard' timestamp='1284064182' post='4611848'] Dark Grepher. Why? Insta DAD if you ever manage to get him into your hand. [/quote] Duah. American cards [i]TRY[/i] to break the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 Grepher is better in Darklords. Discard any Darklord to summon it, discard another to send another one to the graveyard. Summon DAD if you have it. Normal summon The Agent of Creation, Venus, and activate it's effect as many times as Symbols of Duty you have in your hand. proceed to summon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 Meh. Depends on the Deck. Most times though Dark Grepher is better but at least Armageddon Knight isn't a -1 to dump stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flinsbon Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 Personally, I like Dark Grepher better. Technically, he hinders Allure, but since Allure is only at 1 right now, it doesn't matter too much. I lol'd when I saw this thread because the other day, I was at Wal Mart and they had some older packs on sale for $3 each, so I got the last 2 PTDN packs. I pulled Armageddon Knight from 1 and Dark Grepher from the other xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 Dark Grepher because he comes Secret, Super and Ultra. While Arma only comes Rare and Super. OT: Depends on the Deck-Type and what you need done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.B X Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 Exactly it depends... So for me its Armageddon Knight, because of many thing, first of all PSZ and Gardna as it has been said before its a less -X to the hand, and Yubel with Reverse Limit and/OR Call of the Haunted. Plus its just a very cool card, nice Artwork, searchable by tomato, sangan, and its Warrior-Type enough said. /Thread. EDIT: Hey, yay! My 400th post, am level 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 Arma can be Tomato'ed, but Dark Hentai wins. On the hentai note: Remember how Grepher stalks D.D. Warrior Lady? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.B X Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 [quote name='=The End Gamer=' timestamp='1284105864' post='4613256'] Arma can be Tomato'ed, but Dark Hentai wins. On the hentai note: Remember how Grepher stalks D.D. Warrior Lady? [/quote] LMAO! haha! lol! I feel that most yugioh cards have stories i always notice this. Oh! and BTW! i know that A. Knight wins. You dont need to tell me otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 Grepher is better since it loads the grave more efficiently. Then again, Arma can't be hit by bottomless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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