The death of the SDB Deck

[iAmNateXero]

Straight from Julia, new EGP.

Important to Note: Intentional Draws are not permitted – players may not choose to end a match in a draw. Be aware that during the final round of Swiss, x-1 players may try to intentionally draw by manipulating their games. Judges zoned in these tables should be aware of what the players are doing, and do their best to prevent anyone from breaking the rules by drawing the match on purpose.

During Swiss Rounds, follow this End of Round procedure.
If the round ends while a Duel is still going on:
• The Duelist conducting their turn when the round ended will continue until the end of their turn.
• If the Duel is not over when that turn is complete, go to “Extra Turns”.
o Extra Turns = Conduct 5 additional Turns starting from the opponent’s Turn.
• If a win condition (a Duelist is reduced to 0 Life Points, or an instant win condition such as the effect of “Exodia The Forbidden One”) occurs within these 5 Turns, the Duel ends as normal.
• If a win condition does NOT occur within these 5 Turns, the Duelist who has higher Life Points after the Extra Turns (5 turns) wins.
• If both Duelists’ Life Points are the same after the Extra Turns are completed (5 turns), the Duel is considered to be a Draw.

If the round ends before a new Duel has begun (before or during Side Decking):
First, count each Duelist’s Game Wins.
• If both Duelists have the same number of Game Wins, the Match is considered to be a Draw.
• If a Duelist has 1 win, that Duelist wins the Match. A Duelist does not have to have 2 wins in order to win a Match.

During Single Elimination, follow this End of Round procedure.
Match Draws cannot exist in Single Elimination (there must be a winner).
If the round ends while a Duel is still going on:
• The Duelist conducting their turn when the round ended will continue until the end of their turn.
• If the Duel is not over when that turn is complete, go to “Extra Turns”.
o Extra Turns = Conduct 3 additional Turns starting from the opponent’s Turn.
• If a win condition (a Duelist is reduced to 0 Life Points, or an instant win condition such as the effect of “Exodia the Forbidden One”) occurs within these 3 turns, the Duel ends as normal.
• If a win condition does NOT occur within these 3 turns, the Duelist who has higher Life Points after the Extra Turns (3 turns) wins.
• If both Duelists’ Life Points are the same after the Extra Turns are completed, play will continue until the first change in Life Points – an increase or a decrease – and the Duelist with the highest Life Points wins the Duel.
o If Life Points are changed as a chain is being created, the Duelist with the higher Life Points wins the moment the change in Life Points is made.
o If Life Points are changed as the chain is resolving, all effects that are already on the chain should be resolved before comparing Life Points. Once the chain has resolved, compare Life Points and the Duelist with the highest Life Points wins the Duel.
o If a Duelist’s Life Points reach 0 or if a win condition occurs while the chain is resolving, the win is awarded without continuing to resolve the chain.
Once the winner is determined for the current Duel, compare both Duelists’ wins.
• If a Duelist has won more Duels than his or her opponent, that Duelist wins the Match.
• If both Duelists have won the same number of Duels, they will begin a new Duel with these specific rules:
o Neither Duelist may use his or her Side Deck.
o Whichever Duelist lost the previous Duel chooses who will go first.
o The Duel will continue for 4 turns – 2 turns for each Duelist – unless a Duelist wins the Duel before the 4 turns are up.
o Once the 4 turns are completed, Life Point totals are compared and the Duelist with the highest Life Point total wins the Match.
o If both Duelist’s Life Points are the same after the 4 turns are completed, play will continue until the first change in Life Points – an increase or a decrease – and the Duelist with the highest Life Points wins the Duel.
1. If Life Points are changed as a chain is being created, the Duelist with the higher Life Points wins the moment the change in Life Points is made.
2. If Life Points are changed as the chain is resolving, all effects that are already on the chain should be resolved before comparing Life Points. Once the chain has resolved, compare Life Points and the Duelist with the highest Life Points wins the Duel.
3. If a Duelist’s Life Points reach 0 or if a win condition occurs while the chain is resolving, the win is awarded without continuing to resolve the chain.

If the round ends before a new Duel has begun (before or during Side Decking):
• If both Duelists have won the same number of Duels, they will begin a new Duel with these specific rules:
o Neither Duelist may use his or her Side Deck.
o Whichever Duelist lost the previous Duel chooses who will go first.
o The Duel will continue for 4 turns – 2 turns for each Duelist – unless a Duelist wins the Duel before the 4 turns are up.
o Once the 4 turns are completed, Life Point totals are compared and the Duelist with the highest Life Point total wins the Match.
o If both Duelist’s Life Points are the same after the 4 turns are completed, play will continue until the first change in Life Points – an increase or a decrease – and the Duelist with the highest Life Points wins the Duel.
1. If Life Points are changed as a chain is being created, the Duelist with the higher Life Points wins the moment the change in Life Points is made.
2. If Life Points are changed as the chain is resolving, all effects that are already on the chain should be resolved before comparing Life Points. Once the chain has resolved, compare Life Points and the Duelist with the highest Life Points wins the Duel.
3. If a Duelist’s Life Points reach 0 or if a win condition occurs while the chain is resolving, the win is awarded without continuing to resolve the chain.

Frequently Asked Questions about End of Round Procedure
Q: What happens if both Duelists have a win when time is called?
A: If time is called during a Duel when both Duelists already have one win, and the current Duel ends in a Draw, the Match is considered to be a Draw.
If time is called before a Duel begins (before or during Side Decking), and both Duelists have the same number of wins, the Match is considered to be a Draw.
Q: What happens if only one Duelist has a win when time is called?
A: If time is called before a Duel begins (during Side Decking), and one Duelist has more wins than the other player, the Duelist with more wins is declared the winner of the Match.
Q: Does a Duelist need to win 2 Duels to win the Match?
A: No. As long as a Duelist has more wins than the opponent, he or she wins the Match.
Q: Can a Match end in a Draw during the round?
A: No. Draws can only occur during End of Match procedures. Matches that end before time is called will always have a winner.
Q: How many points do you get for a Match Win, compared to a Match Draw?
A: A Match Win earns you 3 points. A Match Draw earns you 1 point. A Loss earns you 0 points
Q: Can Duelists agree to Draw a match?
A: Intentional draws are not allowed. Duelists may not choose to end a Match in a Draw – if they decide to do so, it is considered cheating and would result in a Disqualification for both Duelists.
Q: Are there Draws in Single Elimination events, or top cut playoffs?
A: No, in Single Elimination events and playoffs, there must be a winner for each Match. Single Elimination rounds use the End of Match procedure that does not include Match Draws.


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TL;DR:

You dont need 2 games to win a match now in swiss.
You can not draw on purpose.
Swiss now counts 5 turns instead of 3.
Stalling will be enforced to the max now.

[byak]

tl;dr

[iAmNateXero]

I figured, i edited with the tl;dr.

[byak]

"You dont need 2 games to win a match now in swiss."

idgi because I didn't read the whole thing.

[iAmNateXero]

At the end of the round (when time is called) the person with the most wins, wins the match. Game 1 your opponent stalls all the way to the end of the round and wins. Your both side decking when time is called. At that point he/ she would win the match just because he/ she had 1 win.

[Toffee.]

......Would this sort of "format" require a different B& list?

[iAmNateXero]

Its not a format, its a change in tournament policy. Its how they plan on making YCS go faster, I think it will promote stall even more. And if they dont start enforcing the stall penalties i may stop attending events all together out side of judging.

[Toffee.]

[quote name='Nate Xero™' timestamp='1284949932' post='4642469']
Its not a format, its a change in tournament policy. Its how they plan on making YCS go faster, I think it will promote stall even more.
[/quote]
Wait, why would they want YCS do go [i]faster[/i]?

[iAmNateXero]

I for one don't like staying in a convention center from 9am to 8pm. its just not right man.

[Toffee.]

[quote name='Nate Xero™' timestamp='1284950331' post='4642488']
I for one don't like staying in a convention center from 9am to 8pm. its just not right man.
[/quote]
Why not just say its a free for all?
Everyone enters the building -> If someone challanges you, you must duel them -> if you lose, you leave the building -> Last [X] players standing get prizes -> Event should last about 20 minutes.

[Catterjune]

Hmm. It's my interpretation that you can't just both shake hands and call it a draw when the game is over. Not that you can't use Self Destruct or whatever. I guess I could send the young lady an e-mail and ask for clarification.

[quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1284950111' post='4642478']
Wait, why would they want YCS do go [i]faster[/i]?
[/quote]

'Cause they have to pay to rent out the space? 'Cause the judges don't wanna spend all day surrounded with smelly nerds who play Yu-Gi-Oh? 'Cause working for 4 hours for the exact same pay as working for 6 hours is a much sweeter deal?

[byak]

[quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1284950732' post='4642502']
Why not just say its a free for all?
Everyone enters the building -> If someone challanges you, you must duel them -> if you lose, you leave the building -> Last [X] players standing get prizes -> Event should last about 20 minutes.
[/quote]

itt: 5-6 rounds last 20 minutes

also scrubs could beat scrubs and then scrubbier scrubs would win along with good ygoers.

[HaouJudai]

[quote name='Nate Xero™' timestamp='1284949932' post='4642469']
Its not a format, its a change in tournament policy. Its how they plan on making YCS go faster, I think it will promote stall even more. And if they dont start enforcing the stall penalties i may stop attending events all together out side of judging.
[/quote]
I completely agree Xero. I mean I have a red handprint on my face from all the facepalming over this new draw procedure. So ok konami hows this? We have a judge assigned to each duel? Because how in the hell are you going to go table to table to determine intentional draws?

I cannot construct a coherent response to their random blathering about this stupid new policy in this really dumb format. Every time I start to type it ends being

rage rage rage rage - rage quit.

[rant] [/rant]

[Azuh]

I'm pretty sure they're has to be some sort of ruling for this for Self-Destruct Button?

If not, why not ban the card?

[iAmNateXero]

It has nothing to do with the card itself, its that the game finally added "draws" to the score board. Intentional drawing is not allowed. Draws are worth 1 point as wins are worth 3. If you draw 16 times before a match is called, you would damage the score board.

[Dr. Cakey]

Um...it will make Star Tournaments in DMG go twice as fast if used. That's pretty much the only good point.

In short, idgi

[GenzoTheHarpist]

[quote name='PikaPerson01' timestamp='1284952276' post='4642560']
Hmm. It's my interpretation that you can't just both shake hands and call it a draw when the game is over. Not that you can't use Self Destruct or whatever. I guess I could send the young lady an e-mail and ask for clarification.
[/quote]
This.

[-Berserker-]

Those procedures seem to make sense, but I don't go to tournaments and don't know what a swiss round is...

[Buttercup]

idk why players can't decide on a draw apart from LOLBRIBEZ.