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Mugendramon Newbie

Mugendramon

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Someone up there said that FuFu was an instantaneous fusion. What he did was to contradict that.

On a side note: With this card, a Mystical Space Typhoon is an F.G.D.'s worst nightmare, right?

BUT! I love using this card and De-Fusion:

1) Use FuFu.
2)Wait.
3)Summon F.G.D., then use De-Fusion to instantly Summon 5 beatsticks! Is that stupid or even balanced?
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Mysty Newbie

Mysty

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[quote name='Judgment Phoenix' timestamp='1285213723' post='4647332']
Generic Fusions broke this.
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In other words, just how I think Fusions should have been made all along.

I guess they should ban this and make another one like this...

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[b]During your 2nd Standby Phase after this card's activation, s[/b]end, from your Deck to the Graveyard, [b]the minimum number of[/b] Fusion Material Monsters that are listed on a Fusion Monster Card [b]with four or less Fusion Material Monsters[/b], and [s]select that 1 Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck. [/s]Special Summon [s]a[/s] [b]that[/b] Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck[b].[/b][s] with the same name as the selected Fusion Monster during your 2nd Standby Phase after this card's activation.[/s] (This Special Summon is treated as a Fusion Summon.) When this card is removed from the field, destroy the monster. When the monster is destroyed, destroy this card.
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Or, if you don't feel like reading through the scratched-out text, read this:

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During the second Standby Phase after this card's activation, send, from your Deck to the Graveyard, the minimum number of Fusion Material Monsters that are listed on a Fusion Monster Card with four or less Fusion Material Monsters, and Special Summon that Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck. (This Special Summon is treated as a Fusion Summon.) When this card is removed from the field, destroy the monster. When the monster is destroyed, destroy this card.
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Perhaps fixed?:
• FGD doesn't work with this card now. Though now I'm starting to think REDMD is the problem, not FGD.
• Worm Zero is limited to 2 monsters. Chimeratech Overdragon [s]is also limited to two monsters[/s] should be banned anyway.
• It doesn't ditch cards until when the monster is summoned. If Future Fusion isn't around, no cards are ditched later. Your opponent has two turns to stop you before you set up your Graveyard.

Of course, this brought up the question, "Which is most banworthy:
• FGD+FuFu: being able to ditch 5 Dragons instantly and maybe get a 5000 ATK monster in two turns
• REDMD: a high ATK monster that is ridiculously easy to summon and can resurrect a Dragon (except a copy of itself) once per turn, or
• Red-Eyes Wyvern: the card that you can dump into the Graveyard to resurrect the above card"

The answer shouldn't be the Wyvern, but perhaps that could be an interesting subject. *goes to make topic*
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Mysty Newbie

Mysty

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[quote name='Spider5667' timestamp='1285251721' post='4647828']
Hang on, Dont call me a n00bfor this, if this card is Destroyed before the fusion monster is summoned, is it sent to the graveyard anyway? I dont think so.....

If only ExCS isnt banned.....
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If Future Fusion is destroyed before it resolves, nothing happens. If it does resolve, it will send the monsters to the Graveyard and most likely do what it's intended to do.
If Future Fusion resolves and it is destroyed before the Fusion Monster is summoned, the Material Monsters were already sent, but the monster will remain in the Extra Deck.
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Mr. Judgment Dragon Apprentice

Mr. Judgment Dragon

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[quote name='Mystery Guest' timestamp='1285247787' post='4647766']
In other words, just how I think Fusions should have been made all along.
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When this was first released, Chimeratech and Five-Headed Dragon I believe were the only generic Fusions that existed in the game. There was no REDMD either. Now Chimeratech is banworthy regardless since it only exists to OTK and can do so through Power Bond. Five-Headed Dragon was pretty much a slightly more splashable and stronger BEUD with near immunity to destruction via battle. There's also the fact to consider that Five-Headed Dragon's existence turns Future Fusion into a slightly worse Painful Choice or a Foolish Burial x5 which seems unacceptable. At the time I don't think it was as obvious as it is now. Now I think it has really gotten to a point where Future Fusion is restricting the acceptability of Generic Fusions (Five-Headed Dragon, Worm Zero, E-Hero Absolute Zero and the other Generic Fusion Heroes). If the generic Fusions are banworthy regardless like Chimeratech Overdragon, then that can't really be taken into account when considering Future Fusions banworthiness but if they aren't like Five-Headed Dragon which makes Future Fusion a Painful Choice for Dragons or Foolish Burial x5 which in turn makes Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon easier then it would come down to which card or cards give more to the game. I think a generic Fusion like Five-Headed Dragon gives more to the game than a type-specific Painful Choice.

[quote name='Mystery Guest' timestamp='1285247787' post='4647766']
I guess they should ban this and make another one like this...



Or, if you don't feel like reading through the scratched-out text, read this:



Perhaps fixed?:
• FGD doesn't work with this card now. Though now I'm starting to think REDMD is the problem, not FGD.
• Worm Zero is limited to 2 monsters. Chimeratech Overdragon [s]is also limited to two monsters[/s] should be banned anyway.
• It doesn't ditch cards until when the monster is summoned. If Future Fusion isn't around, no cards are ditched later. Your opponent has two turns to stop you before you set up your Graveyard.
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Nah. Just make it only work for non-Generic Fusion Monsters. At least then, if the non-generic Fusion Monsters are problems then they can be banned and Future Fusion can be left alone.

[quote name='Mystery Guest' timestamp='1285247787' post='4647766']
Of course, this brought up the question, "Which is most banworthy:
• FGD+FuFu: being able to ditch 5 Dragons instantly and maybe get a 5000 ATK monster in two turns
• REDMD: a high ATK monster that is ridiculously easy to summon and can resurrect a Dragon (except a copy of itself) once per turn, or
• Red-Eyes Wyvern: the card that you can dump into the Graveyard to resurrect the above card"

The answer shouldn't be the Wyvern, but perhaps that could be an interesting subject. *goes to make topic*
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Wyvern isn't a problem since it is restricted to Red-Eyes Monsters and doesn't work until the End Phase essentially making it a bad Mezuki. Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon is probably bannable even without Future Fusion since it is still an easy to Summon beatstick that can Summon another beatstick at no cost abeit only once per turn and only for a Monster of a specific Type. The only thing that could save REDMD is Deck dedication (is it enough to balance REDMD or not?). Future Fusion just makes it easier. The first point is likely a problem since it is akin to Painful Choice and can reward you in a few turns with a strong monster. Now being less banworthy than another card or card combo doesn't necessarily mean a card or card combo isn't banworthy. Basically, the first 2 points are banworthy and need action to be taken and the first one is the most banworthy since Painful Choice is one of the most banworthy cards in the game as it is and this fact reflects that point.
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Thomas★Zero

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[quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1285116598' post='4645098']
Lets see...
With Dragons: Five Headed Rage/Ultimate Dragons
With Machines: Uber Chimertech/Roids version of FHD
With Warriors: Any E-Hero Fusion
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Fix'ed XD

also future Fusion -> dump 5 Dragons for 5HD -> Summon RE-chick -> trib for REBD -> play Inferno fireblast -> trib for REDD on 4500 ATK

better have last card as a pot of avarice or something like that XD
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