Zero Force

[werewolfjedi]

ok, this card rocks, damage step BS ftw!

and even if it can't be used in the damage step, it still messes up your opponent's plans.

and it's chainable, hell yes.

[darkwolf777]

Yes, you can use Tokens with Zero Force. "Removing from play" is not the same as "Send this to the Remove from Play Zone" (not that there are any cards with such a wording). Tokens can be removed from play as a cost, which would remove them from the field.


Here's some word association:

"Send this to the Remove from Play Zone" is to "Remove from Play" is to "Send this to the Graveyard" is to "???".

If a card's cost specifically told us to "Sent to the Remove from Play Zone", in a similar fashion to sending to the Graveyard, we could be expected that the card must end up in the Remove from Play area to be valid payment.

"Remove from Play" is an action defined by the game which basically does mean to "send it to the Removed from Game" area, but cards do not explicitly say that it must be sent "to the removed from play zone", but is understood by the action of "Remove from Play". From a cost standpoint, "Removing from play" attempts to move the card to the Remove from Play area, but makes no requirement that it must end up in there (because it doesn't specifically mention the destination to be the removed from play zone.). Therefore, the cards will be sent to the "Remove from Play Zone" but Tokens that are removed from play will instead simply be removed from the field.

Maybe if there was such an action phrase or word that would associate to "sending to the Graveyard" such as "Bury" or "GRAVEYARDITIZE" a card, then it could work in a similar fashion, hence what the ??? means in that association.

Man, i say a lot of weird stuff when trying to give my understanding of this game lol

[quote name='-Griffin' timestamp='1289667477' post='4781556']
This alter's ATK, can it be used in the damage step so it's too late to replay?
[/quote]

Correct, should be no reason not to be able to use it.

[.Gideon.]

evil.
SO evil

[Just Crouton]

[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1289668207' post='4781595']
Or a monster in Defense position. Stone Statue of the Aztecs is particularly evil. 4000 points of damage, yes please.

It probably can be used during the Damage Step, but I'm not sure.
[/quote]

This + Battle Mania + Aztec Statue = OTK

[evilfusion]

Assuming they have 2 or more monsters and don't do anything to mess up the combo.

[Dark_Armed_Zombie]

[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1289697845' post='4782642']
Assuming they have 2 or more monsters and don't do anything to mess up the combo.
[/quote]

The "2 or more monsters" isn't really a problem with today's decks, but with so much destruction it's pretty dang hard to get that combo off.

[BDKMRV]

Lol EHero Wildheart.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

Why must Tenkabito Shien be so outclassed by Wildheart? Not only does Wildheart have an Archetype at his back (technically Tenkabito does because of Gateway of the Six, but still...), but he has 600 more DEF, better Attribute support, and a better Type support too. Poor Tenkabito...

[DARKPLANT RISING]

Its pic is bad, but its effect is good.

[Dr. Cakey]

Pic isn't bad. I liked the original effect.

[evilfusion]

The original effect activated when one of your monsters leaves the field, and all monsters with equal or more ATK became 0.

This is infinitely better.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1289702784' post='4782919']
The original effect activated when one of your monsters leaves the field, and all monsters with equal or more ATK became 0.

This is infinitely better.
[/quote]
I guess there could be situations that effect would be better, but not any that would be easy to get into.

[Toffee.]

[quote name='Dr. Cakey' timestamp='1289701434' post='4782842']
I liked the original effect.
[/quote]
The new copy is chainable, and has a laughable cost

[Sephiroth_The_Legend]

fun card.

has simple yet functional uses.

[.Nu-13]

So it works with Tokens?

@3 in any Reptilianne deck. NAO!

[-Griffin]

[quote name='Chillaccino' timestamp='1289745847' post='4783855']
So it works with Tokens?

@3 in any Reptilianne deck. NAO!
[/quote]

Oh right, ruling was confirmed.

THIS.

[TheTurtleOnceCalledGod]

Does it deserve a spot in Debuhime/Dandywarrior?
If so, DO WANT!

[Toffee.]

*Assuming this is in Wc11*
Oh god that game is going to be so much fun

[.Nu-13]

[quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1289750976' post='4784043']
*Assuming this is in Wc11*
Oh god that game is going to be so much fun
[/quote]

It WILL be in WC11. IT will be up to STOR after all

[Toffee.]

[quote name='Chillaccino' timestamp='1289751128' post='4784050']
It WILL be in WC11. IT will be up to STOR after all
[/quote]
Mask of Darkness x3
Cat of Ill Omen
Debris Dragon x3
Dandylion x2
Cloudian Sheep Cloud x2
E-Hero Stratos
D-Hero Plasma x3
Phantom Skyblaster x3
Sangan
Morphing Jar

Scapegoat
Creature Swap x3
Creature Seizure x3
Dark Hole
Monster Reborn
Mind Control

Zero Force x3
Mirror Force
Solemn Judgment
Divine Warning x3
Bottomless Trap hole x2

=D

[.Nu-13]

Token Easter, dude

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

And a funny combo would be Rampage Fight. Zero makes their ATK 0, but then your tokens are boosted to 1000 ATK if I'm correct.

[Toffee.]

[quote name='Chillaccino' timestamp='1289751885' post='4784085']
Token Easter, dude
[/quote]
.........I just noticed that Pot of Duality would have no effect on this deck, as Dandylion and/or Sheep Cloud would mostly get destroyed by battle, and turn I use it to limit my spamming for a minute, the opponent would have more monsters, and then I could Skyblaster to summon a bunch of monsters.

-3 Divine Warning
+3 Token Easters
-1 Seizure
- Mind Control
+2 Duality

[.Nu-13]

Seriously, I have like ~10 deck projects for WC11. But you know, it's strangely quiet about it... like it will never come out O_o

OT: Finally, Konami done something right. IRL Version >>>>>>[100000000000000000000000000x]>>>>> Anime Version