werewolfjedi Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 ok, this card rocks, damage step BS ftw! and even if it can't be used in the damage step, it still messes up your opponent's plans. and it's chainable, hell yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Yes, you can use Tokens with Zero Force. "Removing from play" is not the same as "Send this to the Remove from Play Zone" (not that there are any cards with such a wording). Tokens can be removed from play as a cost, which would remove them from the field. Here's some word association: "Send this to the Remove from Play Zone" is to "Remove from Play" is to "Send this to the Graveyard" is to "???". If a card's cost specifically told us to "Sent to the Remove from Play Zone", in a similar fashion to sending to the Graveyard, we could be expected that the card must end up in the Remove from Play area to be valid payment. "Remove from Play" is an action defined by the game which basically does mean to "send it to the Removed from Game" area, but cards do not explicitly say that it must be sent "to the removed from play zone", but is understood by the action of "Remove from Play". From a cost standpoint, "Removing from play" attempts to move the card to the Remove from Play area, but makes no requirement that it must end up in there (because it doesn't specifically mention the destination to be the removed from play zone.). Therefore, the cards will be sent to the "Remove from Play Zone" but Tokens that are removed from play will instead simply be removed from the field. Maybe if there was such an action phrase or word that would associate to "sending to the Graveyard" such as "Bury" or "GRAVEYARDITIZE" a card, then it could work in a similar fashion, hence what the ??? means in that association. Man, i say a lot of weird stuff when trying to give my understanding of this game lol [quote name='-Griffin' timestamp='1289667477' post='4781556'] This alter's ATK, can it be used in the damage step so it's too late to replay? [/quote] Correct, should be no reason not to be able to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Gideon. Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 evil. SO evil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1289668207' post='4781595'] Or a monster in Defense position. Stone Statue of the Aztecs is particularly evil. 4000 points of damage, yes please. It probably can be used during the Damage Step, but I'm not sure. [/quote] This + Battle Mania + Aztec Statue = OTK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Assuming they have 2 or more monsters and don't do anything to mess up the combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1289697845' post='4782642'] Assuming they have 2 or more monsters and don't do anything to mess up the combo. [/quote] The "2 or more monsters" isn't really a problem with today's decks, but with so much destruction it's pretty dang hard to get that combo off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDKMRV Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Lol EHero Wildheart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Why must Tenkabito Shien be so outclassed by Wildheart? Not only does Wildheart have an Archetype at his back (technically Tenkabito does because of Gateway of the Six, but still...), but he has 600 more DEF, better Attribute support, and a better Type support too. Poor Tenkabito... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Its pic is bad, but its effect is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Pic isn't bad. I liked the original effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 The original effect activated when one of your monsters leaves the field, and all monsters with equal or more ATK became 0. This is infinitely better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1289702784' post='4782919'] The original effect activated when one of your monsters leaves the field, and all monsters with equal or more ATK became 0. This is infinitely better. [/quote] I guess there could be situations that effect would be better, but not any that would be easy to get into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 [quote name='Dr. Cakey' timestamp='1289701434' post='4782842'] I liked the original effect. [/quote] The new copy is chainable, and has a laughable cost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 fun card. has simple yet functional uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 So it works with Tokens? @3 in any Reptilianne deck. NAO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 [quote name='Chillaccino' timestamp='1289745847' post='4783855'] So it works with Tokens? @3 in any Reptilianne deck. NAO! [/quote] Oh right, ruling was confirmed. THIS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Does it deserve a spot in Debuhime/Dandywarrior? If so, DO WANT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 *Assuming this is in Wc11* Oh god that game is going to be so much fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1289750976' post='4784043'] *Assuming this is in Wc11* Oh god that game is going to be so much fun [/quote] It WILL be in WC11. IT will be up to STOR after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 [quote name='Chillaccino' timestamp='1289751128' post='4784050'] It WILL be in WC11. IT will be up to STOR after all [/quote] Mask of Darkness x3 Cat of Ill Omen Debris Dragon x3 Dandylion x2 Cloudian Sheep Cloud x2 E-Hero Stratos D-Hero Plasma x3 Phantom Skyblaster x3 Sangan Morphing Jar Scapegoat Creature Swap x3 Creature Seizure x3 Dark Hole Monster Reborn Mind Control Zero Force x3 Mirror Force Solemn Judgment Divine Warning x3 Bottomless Trap hole x2 =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Token Easter, dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 And a funny combo would be Rampage Fight. Zero makes their ATK 0, but then your tokens are boosted to 1000 ATK if I'm correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 [quote name='Chillaccino' timestamp='1289751885' post='4784085'] Token Easter, dude [/quote] .........I just noticed that Pot of Duality would have no effect on this deck, as Dandylion and/or Sheep Cloud would mostly get destroyed by battle, and turn I use it to limit my spamming for a minute, the opponent would have more monsters, and then I could Skyblaster to summon a bunch of monsters. -3 Divine Warning +3 Token Easters -1 Seizure - Mind Control +2 Duality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Seriously, I have like ~10 deck projects for WC11. But you know, it's strangely quiet about it... like it will never come out O_o OT: Finally, Konami done something right. IRL Version >>>>>>[100000000000000000000000000x]>>>>> Anime Version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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