.Nu-13 Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 http://manjyomethunder.twoday.net/ Look at PP13. For lazy ones... [i]Masked Hero Gouka | *6 | FIRE [Warrior/Fusion/Effect] This card cannot be Special Summoned except by the effect of "Mask Change". This card gains 100 ATK for each "Hero" monster in your Graveyard. ATK/2200 DEF/1800 Masked Hero Vapor | *6 | WATER [Warrior/Fusion/Effect] This card cannot be Special Summoned except by the effect of "Mask Change". This card cannot be destroyed by card effects. ATK/2400 DEF/2000 Mask Change Quick-Play Spell Card Send 1 face-up "Hero" monster you control to the Graveyard. Special Summon 1 "Masked Hero" monster from your Extra Deck with the same Attribute as the sent monster.[/i] Vapor is actually fun Mask Change is pretty nice, because its chainable. It's still not 100% confrimed if they will be Nomis or Semi-Nomis. Anyway, discuss. PS: They won't be in WC11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 Summon Ab 0 Mask Change Summon Vapor Profit???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted December 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 That's... pro combo And it's cool because you can chain Mask Chage to any nuke effect, go into Vapor, and you have clear field with 2500 beatstick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 I'm kinda glad they aren't in wc11, they would be abused by everyone online. The fire one is pathetic, the water one Sephiroth already explained. Where is our Dark elemental hero Konami? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted December 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 Yeah, Gouka is useless, but Vapor... [color="#FFFFFF"][b][size="7"]IT A FRIGGIN EPIC CARD![/size][/b][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 wait for it. It'll be something boring like: Elemental Hero The Dark or Elemental Hero The Abyss and most likely, it'll be the worse one of all.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 I don't see any reason why I should waste my extra deck on these :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkaiser Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 Oh no, they're going to half ass the Mask/Vision heroes. Mask Change is cool. We need more Masked Heroes though. I want the vanillas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 I like how Konami completly BS'd the effect of Mask Change, where it works on any 'Hero' monster. Add to it, you can use Mask Change on the same guy(double attack shenanigans?) As far as Hero support goes, Mask Change is very nice. As its effectively a [i]better[/i] version of NEX, and has a wider variety of weird combos you could pull off with it. Seems fun. Still... I wish Konami gave these a pink boarder, and classified them as 'transformation' monsters, to be more accurate and/or introduce a new mechanic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE GOD OF OBELISK Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 Well, they're not completely confirmed. But chain Mask Change to BRD nuke for maximum trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaouJudai Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 [quote name='Sephiroth_The_Legend' timestamp='1291816933' post='4837740'] wait for it. It'll be something boring like: Elemental Hero The Dark or Elemental Hero The Abyss and most likely, it'll be the worse one of all.... [/quote] I'm waiting on Vision Hero Increase. zomg - but I still think we've already gotten the dark hero. Vision Hero Trinity. He is the dark omni. or this guy: PP13-JP0(??) Vision Hero Adoration DARK/Warrior - Fusion/8/2800/2100 2 "Hero" monster Effect unconfirmed: Once per turn, [...] 1 face-up monster your opponent controls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkaiser Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 [quote name='eviljudai' timestamp='1291833928' post='4838139'] I'm waiting on Vision Hero Increase. zomg - but I still think we've already gotten the dark hero. Vision Hero Trinity. He is the dark omni. [/quote] No, he's not. The Omni's say 1 HERO + 1 Attribute and have E-HERO in their name. I'm sure that Adoration will say 1 hero + 1 Hero as Konami is half assing the Vision Heroes. Does that make Adoration the DARK omni? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted December 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 Adoration is [i]2 "Hero" monsters[/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaouJudai Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 i'm telling ya - it would not surprise me if they do not make a dark omni. The dark attribute is a Destiny Hero/Vision Hero thang. Elemental Heroes are more ... umm. elemental? If you look at the timing in the releases it went like this Gaia Ab 0 Shining Great Tornado Trinity Nova Master You're right, Trinity doesn't fit the omni mold. But the way they released him fits the pattern. It was konami in the library with a candlestick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 Masked Heroes aren't very impressive. Vapor is a good card to bring out if you're running WATER heroes, but otherwise they wont fit well into regular Hero decks. I want to see the Vision heroes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 Can someone explain to me [i]WHY[/i] the new DARK Hero Fusion doesnt use 1 DARK monster as a fusion material? OWAIT, DATS RITE. ALL OF ASTRZ KARD R ALWAIS DARK SO IT DUSNT MATR HURR HURR HURR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1291847528' post='4838610'] Can someone explain to me [i]WHY[/i] the new DARK Hero Fusion doesnt use 1 DARK monster as a fusion material? [/quote] DARK = Konami's secret money making strategy. By having one type being better than all the others, people will spend more money to get them even if they cost moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1291847828' post='4838621'] DARK = Konami's secret money making strategy. By having one type being better than all the others, people will spend more money to get them even if they cost moar. [/quote] You missed the part that I added. Aster always runs DARK Heros, therefor, This card's fusion materials are just '2 Hero monsters', as in the manga this card was probbly summoned with using 1 V and 1 M hero >__> Friggin' Konami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Obviously, Vapor is pretty decent in Zero decks. I think the entire concept overall is interesting, but I'm not completely sold on it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkaiser Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1291848046' post='4838628'] You missed the part that I added. Aster always runs DARK Heros, therefor, This card's fusion materials are just '2 Hero monsters', as in the manga this card was probbly summoned with using 1 V and 1 M hero >__> Friggin' Konami. [/quote] Vision Heroes in the manga were a kind of reverse toolbox archetype. Whenever the player took damage you could place them in your backfield as continuous Spell Cards. Then, by tributing a Vision Hero in your Monster Card Zone you could Special Summon 1 of them from your back-row and activate an effect such as blowing up and monster, halving ATK and DEF, or summoning a HERO from the Deck. They have their own archetype specific Polymerization, aptly named Vision Polymerization, which fuses together two or more Vision Heroes in your backfield to Fusion Summon. Vision Hero Adoration was summoned using Vision Hero Minimum Ray and Multiple Guy as his fusion materials on more than one occasion so it seems that those were his necessary materials. M Heroes suck. It's sad really. They are vanillas with mediocre stats that only shine after transformation and even then they're nothing to write home about. So far in the Manga Judai has lost 2 out 3 duels with them. They are in serious need of help. I love them because they are Kamen Riders and I love archetypes based around Normal Monsters but I won't deny that they are still quite lacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Vision Heroes are broken and I hope they don't get nerfed as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaouJudai Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1291847528' post='4838610'] Can someone explain to me [i]WHY[/i] the new DARK Hero Fusion doesnt use 1 DARK monster as a fusion material? OWAIT, DATS RITE. ALL OF ASTRZ KARD R ALWAIS DARK SO IT DUSNT MATR HURR HURR HURR [/quote] ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was awesome. Have you guys looked at vision magician? vision hero increase? Very smexy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkaiser Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 Just posting this more clear picture: [img]http://www.jumpfesta.com/goods/images/ph/konami-1.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted December 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Machina Cannon has epic art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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