Bringerofcake Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 [url=http://yugioh.wikia.com/index.php?title=Dark_Flattop&image=DarkFlatTopDDY3-JP-UR-jpg][img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101121091556/yugioh/images/thumb/8/88/DarkFlatTopDDY3-JP-UR.jpg/355px-DarkFlatTopDDY3-JP-UR.jpg[/img][/url] 1 DARK Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner Machine-Type monsters Once per turn, you can select 1 "Reactor" monster or "Flying Fortress SKY FIRE" in your Graveyard and Special Summon it, ignoring the Summoning conditions. When this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard, you can Special Summon 1 Level 5 or lower Machine-Type monster from your hand. So easy to get in Reactors, makes them really good. Really mad that Konami didn't release the rest of the Dark Synchros in the tin. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 I think its bad. [i]Level Modulation[/i] has teach everyone that "ignoring the Summoning conditions" is not really "ignoring the Summoning conditions" when talking about a nomi. Second effect is the reason to Synchro for this card, as it can Special Summon Shapesnatch and Megasonic Eye to fuel OTKs =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Summon Reactor + Dark Salvo, I guess? It's a +0 summon, which is helpful, and if you actually succeed in summoning SKY FIRE.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vough Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Should've been LV7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 [quote name='Vough' timestamp='1308250338' post='5287991'] Should've been LV7 [/quote] This SO much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 Summon this. Foolish AIR RAID Profit? I actually almost died to the build this goes in, once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 Bommer used it. He also used Black Salvo. Black Salvo works very well with Cyberdarks. Therefore, this card is epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 [quote name='Dementuo' timestamp='1308274209' post='5288966'] Summon this.Foolish AIR RAIDProfit?I actually almost died to the build this goes in, once. [/quote] i was told flat top can't sumon Air raid unless air raid was summoned correctly the 1st time(by Summon reactor's effect) :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 [quote name='DeathSDelano' timestamp='1308274533' post='5288981'] i was told flat top can't sumon Air raid unless air raid was summoned correctly the 1st time(by Summon reactor's effect) :/ [/quote] Ignoring the Summoning Condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 ^ i know. I'm just stating what several people tell me. So i don't know exactly (have to wait for this to come to TCG and get a ruling) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ Ｄｅｓｐａｉｒ Ｕｒａｎｕｓ' timestamp='1308274581' post='5288985'] Ignoring the Summoning Condition. [/quote] "Ignoring the Summoning Conditions" turns Nomis into Semi-Nomis and Semi-Nomis into Non-Nomis. SKY FIRE is a Nomi. Thus, you still have to summon it via Summon Reactor's effect before using Flat Top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 [quote name='Miror B.' timestamp='1308274735' post='5288993'] "Ignoring the Summoning Conditions" turns Nomis into Semi-Nomis and Semi-Nomis into Non-Nomis. SKY FIRE is a Nomi. Thus, you still have to summon it via Summon Reactor's effect before using Flat Top. [/quote] So it's worse then I imagined. Hm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ Ｄｅｓｐａｉｒ Ｕｒａｎｕｓ' timestamp='1308274581' post='5288985'] Ignoring the Summoning Condition. [/quote] *shoots* "Ignoring the summoning conditions" has nothing to do with ignoring the summoning conditions, and it never has. We will use Rainbow Dragon as our example card. If I Special Summon it via the conventional method, and it is then sent to the Graveyard, I can't use Monster Reborn, because it's a Nomi Monster. We know that. I can use Rainbow Gravity to Special Summon it from my Deck (obviously). And, of course, I can use Rainbow Gravity to bring it back from the Graveyard - [i]but only once it has been properly summoned[/i]. In other words, I cannot use Foolish Burial, then Rainbow Gravity. tl;dr You can Special Summon from the Deck ignoring the summoning conditions, but not from the Graveyard unless the monster has already been summoned properly. If a monster was summoned from the Deck improperly (again i.e. Rainbow Gravity), it can't be revived from the Graveyard even "ignoring the summoning conditions", because it hasn't been properly summoned. tl;dr the tl;dr NOEP EDIT: Ninja'd, basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 but Dark flat top makes summoning air raid easier as he can revive any of the reactors from your graveyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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