El Majishan Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 Stupid player: omg guys...card/deck is terrible, next. Bad deck tops/ bad card is teched in winning deck. Same Stupid player: omg guyz, its the best deck/card is so good if you're not playing it you're stupid. I'm all for giving props to top decks but when someone who just a few weeks ago said the deck/card was bad and is now its biggest fan and is pretty much sucking its dick...I get annoyed. Discuss the mentality of players who pretty much plays what the meta is telling them to play or base their opinion or what others say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 You're talking about the T.G. stuff aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 [quote name='Miror B.' timestamp='1311742423' post='5390790'] You're talking about the T.G. stuff aren't you? [/quote] I think he's talkin bout LOLBRA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 It'd be a lot easier to agree or disagree if we had specific examples of this happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1311743064' post='5390810'] It'd be a lot easier to agree or disagree if we had specific examples of this happening. [/quote] I can only think of Magic Cylinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted July 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 Mostly TG, but it has happened with Dandy-Warrior, Solemn Warning (believe it or not ppl thought this was a bad card when we first found out about it) and some other stuff I'm to lazy/sleepy to remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 Idiots are idiots. Was this really worth making a topic about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelds9 Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 Well, I prefer to use Meta/Good Decks, but put my own personal twist on them or make a personal build. It may not be the best, but it is fun for me. The people who change their minds about decks are what I call "Desperate for Power". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 Why are you complaining? If you don't like it, don't play in the metagame. I play for fun 9/10 times, but I /try/ to stay on tabs with the meta, whatever is. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 [quote name='Ravenous Black' timestamp='1311743811' post='5390840'] If it ain't broke, don't fix it, eh? [/quote] Too bad the meta's broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderVolt Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 I dont play around meta players, just casual with friends and on the hand-held console, but i always keep my eye on the current meta. its offensive that you target the entire yugioh community as a whole....well by the way some much younger kids play this game and dont even know what meta means......or what the rules are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 [quote name='Miror B.' timestamp='1311743886' post='5390845'] Too bad the meta's broke. [/quote] That's for the banlist. For us, as is, we have to go with the flow, or be swept aside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 [quote name='Miror B.' timestamp='1311743886' post='5390845'] Too bad the meta's broke. [/quote] It's not broke, it's on autopilot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted July 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 [quote name='Ravenous Black' timestamp='1311743811' post='5390840'] Why are you complaining? If you don't like it, don't play in the metagame. I play for fun 9/10 times, but I /try/ to stay on tabs with the meta, whatever is. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, eh? [/quote] I think you missed the point of the post, If you where to much of a scrub to see that a card/deck is good and you run off at the mouth saying that its bad, then after it tops you act like you're "good" and start net decking you ass off...saying how good it is....it makes you look retarded and lose credibility as a player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 [quote name='Ｄ・モバホン' timestamp='1311744268' post='5390867'] It's not broke, it's on autopilot. [/quote] That is the problem. The main argument for this format is that the rich win games due to them having access to the best cards. Where does that leave the majority of players, in the dumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 The large amount of reprints this year say hi. Konami's trying to solve the problem of poor players not having access to cards. Clearly the most money you'd have to put into the game has been declining ever since the fall of DaD return, where now the only money cards are Solemn Warning, Hyper Librarian, Trishula and Tour Guide from the Underworld. Granted Solemn Warning is required and it's like $70, most other yugioh cards fall below $20-$30, and there are budget decks that are meta right now (T.G., Gravekeeper, Agents) post reprints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 [quote name='ＴＨＥ ＧＯＤ ＯＦ ＯＳＩＲＩＳ' timestamp='1311745200' post='5390903'] The large amount of reprints this year say hi. Konami's trying to solve the problem of poor players not having access to cards. Clearly the most money you'd have to put into the game has been declining ever since the fall of DaD return, where now the only money cards are Solemn Warning, Hyper Librarian, Trishula and Tour Guide from the Underworld. Granted Solemn Warning is required and it's like $70, most other yugioh cards fall below $20-$30, and there are budget decks that are meta right now (T.G., Gravekeeper, Agents) post reprints. [/quote] Those do help, but some still don't have the money. Namely myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted July 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 [quote name='Mr. Striker' timestamp='1311745813' post='5390923'] Those do help, but some still don't have the money. Namely myself. [/quote] you can always be a jerk and rip off little kids with one sided trades :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 [quote name='Mark of the Bloo-D Rose' timestamp='1311745971' post='5390926'] you can always be a jerk and rip off little kids with one sided trades :/ [/quote] Not my style. I did snag a Dark Hole for a weak card. Also, I need to get the new Starter Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 [quote name='Mark of the Bloo-D Rose' timestamp='1311742011' post='5390774'] Discuss the mentality of players who pretty much plays what the meta is telling them to play or base their opinion or what others say. [/quote] So the complete opposite of me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 [quote name='ＴＨＥ ＧＯＤ ＯＦ ＯＳＩＲＩＳ' timestamp='1311745200' post='5390903'] The large amount of reprints this year say hi. Konami's trying to solve the problem of poor players not having access to cards. Clearly the most money you'd have to put into the game has been declining ever since the fall of DaD return, where now the only money cards are Solemn Warning, Hyper Librarian, Trishula and Tour Guide from the Underworld. Granted Solemn Warning is required and it's like $70, most other yugioh cards fall below $20-$30, and there are budget decks that are meta right now (T.G., Gravekeeper, Agents) post reprints. [/quote] For me, a 20 dollar card is still a money card :/ or any card that's above 15 by that matter. OT @Main Post: You make it sound really monstrous when in fact, such a think as "admitting a misjudgement and changing your mind" exists. The few idiots that blatantly change from one extreme to another in a matter of days and deny to have belonged to that other side is something I don't really see too often. I dislike that behavior too yes, but you really make it sound like the plague. Netdecking can also be acceptable in certain situations. Like for having a feel at the standard of the game and don't attempt to make a Celtic Guardian beatdown Deck after you come back to yugioh or if you are a beginner. About the "playing what the meta tells them". Well. A player has two things to take care of. Winning and having fun. Not everyone are noobs or people trying to make random Deck for fun all the time. People actually try to accomplish both goals. Some people that play casual gradually might start comprehending obvious choices and patterns to follow when making a Deck and playing (with time). A fun player still tries to win when playing with a fun Deck, and if the evolution is gradual, then its level compared to the level of other fun players that are stuck in "fun" might slowly drift apart and it might need more advanced opponents at some point. That or they adapt to the new Level and the growth continues. Eventually and before you realize it, you distinguish what's bad or good when building the Deck (and usually some obvious choices are unavoidable). Then take note that nonTier 0 Decks are also fun. More than half of the cards in the game are hugely underwhelmed by the few "good" cards, resulting in some painfully obvious choices when Deck-building at times. Other than good old staples and techs there is not really a lot of difference between net-decking and personalizing when it comes to the end result. Konami has the Deck themes actually very controlled.You can't easily do things like mix 2 or more archtypes and get away with it. Everything is very specific. I'm actually getting bored of it (reflecting after writing all that stuff that probably already missed the point of whatever I was talking about... I'm talking to myself at this point)......... Anyways. I'm not trying to defend net-deckers or anything, just making up what I write as I go randomly. More on topic than anything: I'm amazed this topic wasn't locked xD maybe the comments aren't [i]that[/i] spamish here..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 I noticed that the greatest shift in attitude was TG. I'll admit, I considered them incredibly weak, but I also discovered that the playstyle that WORKS is the exact opposite of the playstyle you'd EXPECT (Synchro spam, due to the anime's association with them and Synchro Summons). Sometimes, it's just that people dont fully grasp a card's potential or use until someone else discovers it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black W Mage Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 f***ing. CRYSTAL BEASTS. seriously, people thought I was crazy for running them Anti-Meta instead of the OTK. Also, human beings tend to try to find the most "efficient" and quickest solution to their problems (they're lazy). Therefore, its natural for them to dismiss something just because it didn't initially fulfill their criteria (in this case, net +0 or above synchro spam). In this case though, the best nature of T.G. was dismissed, that they absorb attempts at 1-4-1s, and that they are all searchers. Had that been the mind set used, the deck would have easily been identified as similar to Gadgets, but with the added support of cards like "TG-EM1" (which I initially thought was a bad -1, if you look at it in an anti-meta setting, its actually a +1 because of the searching) and Horn of the Phantom Beast (which up to that point was disregarded because most cards that were similar didn't fit the theme it was designed for). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 [quote]Mostly TG, but it has happened with Dandy-Warrior, Solemn Warning (believe it or not ppl thought this was a bad card when we first found out about it) and some other stuff I'm to lazy/sleepy to remember.[/quote] Terrible examples. When you can't figure out a long combo or don't know that some new cards work (in a way completely different from how they were intended to) with some really old card that has never been good and later someone finds this out, it's dick riding to consider the idea and start using it. And even YCMers realized that Warning is broken upon it's release. The only debate was whether to run 2 or 3 but to be fair this was something that you had to test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 I used TGs before they were cool. Anyways. I pretty much don't think this is a problem, it's just a way to tell the good players and bad players apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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