JordanPark24 Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 [quote name='J-Max' timestamp='1315631733' post='5504056'] 1500 Life Points is to discard the Card, not activate it In other words it gets around its own effect. [/quote] But that's still an activation of some sort... You'd need an outside force to discard it due to it's conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted September 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 But by paying the LP, you activate the card to discard it. And then, you have it ACTIVATE from the grave ._. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanPark24 Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1315631811' post='5504060'] But by paying the LP, you activate the card to discard it. And then, you have it ACTIVATE from the grave ._. [/quote] But you said it can't be activated. How about "This card cannot be activated (except from the Graveyard)." I know it's a little odd, but it works around the whole cannot activate clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimp_7 Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 [quote name='JordanPark24' timestamp='1315631903' post='5504064'] But you said it can't be activated. How about "This card cannot be activated (except from the Graveyard)." I know it's a little odd, but it works around the whole cannot activate clause. [/quote] I agree if you there. This way i wouldn't be confused at first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted September 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 [quote name='JordanPark24' timestamp='1315631903' post='5504064'] But you said it can't be activated. How about "This card cannot be activated (except from the Graveyard)." I know it's a little odd, but it works around the whole cannot activate clause. [/quote] That was my point. His version doesn't work. And, there are cards that can activate stuff from the grave, like, [url=http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20061119050754/yugioh/images/thumb/e/e6/DoubleSpellMFC-NA-UR-1E.jpg/300px-DoubleSpellMFC-NA-UR-1E.jpg]Double Spell[/url], off the top of my head. There may/may not be more, but I'm sure there are, and abuse of that is DO NOT WANT. I mean, it's a free Spell EFFECT activation. ._.[quote name='pimp_7' timestamp='1315632088' post='5504071'] I agree if you there. This way i wouldn't be confused at first [/quote] You shouldn't have been confused at all in this OCG-obsessed section =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 "When this card is in your Graveyard, you can pay 1500 Life Points to activate it ignoring the card's activation costs" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanPark24 Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1315632157' post='5504073'] That was my point. His version doesn't work. And, there are cards that can activate stuff from the grave, like, [url="http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20061119050754/yugioh/images/thumb/e/e6/DoubleSpellMFC-NA-UR-1E.jpg/300px-DoubleSpellMFC-NA-UR-1E.jpg"]Double Spell[/url], off the top of my head. There may/may not be more, but I'm sure there are, and abuse of that is DO NOT WANT. I mean, it's a free Spell EFFECT activation. ._. You shouldn't have been confused at all in this OCG-obsessed section =/ [/quote] I think this card is officially a hot mess... We're getting into a bunch of OCG arguments and subjective understandings of effect wording...[quote name='J-Max' timestamp='1315632198' post='5504076'] "When this card is in your Graveyard, you can pay 1500 Life Points to activate it ignoring the card's activation costs" [/quote] You can pay 1500 Life Points to not have to pay 1500 Life Points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 Or perhaps "When this card is drawn from your Deck, you must show it to your opponent. Discard this card to the Graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 Great card for making your opponents go "WTF DIAMOND DUDE RAIGEKI VORTEX". Me likey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 Black, would it be all right if I design a card that can help to give your card more uses? Got a great effect lined up and just need your permission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted September 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 [quote name='J-Max' timestamp='1315633413' post='5504120'] Black, would it be all right if I design a card that can help to give your card more uses? Got a great effect lined up and just need your permission. [/quote] I dint see why not o.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 I think Max misunderstood the effect. This card doesn't activate from the graveyard. It doesn't activate on it's own. Pretty much the only way to use this is Diamond Dude and similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 Well I just designed a card that should give Black's design loads of support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 Oh god I need freaking medical help, I just looked through 16 straight pages of cards on Dueling Network just to see if anything but Diamond Dude can activate this. And since Double Spell requires the card to be activated, it can't. If you could then you could deck in triple Serial Spell for hilarity; even then it says Opponent's graveyard. You're s.o.o.l dude. Otherwise, it seems like a fun card? Just gotta find more ways to USE it >_>". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kemren_18 Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 So thats the effect??..not interesting yet your graphics is nice..try to develop the effect..7/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 Damn <3 Even more creative uses for Diamond Dude. It's also actually pretty easy to set off, considering the draw engine. Plaguespreader this to the top of Deck and Diamond Dude it after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Polo Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1315629642' post='5503928'] Actually, I know exactly what I meant, and I know you really did NOT disprove my point. Anyone who knows the game well enough should know how this card works. [/quote] No. If it can't be activated, then it just can't. If you want a requirement then you add - "Send 1 Spell Card from your Deck to the Graveyard and activate it's effect. During your next Standby Phase, you can add this card to the top of your Deck." That's it, you don't need all that junk around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 [quote name='Marco Polo' timestamp='1315660008' post='5504359'] No. If it can't be activated, then it just can't. If you want a requirement then you add - "Send 1 Spell Card from your Deck to the Graveyard and activate it's effect. During your next Standby Phase, you can add this card to the top of your Deck." That's it, you don't need all that junk around. [/quote] Diamond. Dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Polo Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 I was speaking about the beggining. "This card cannot be activated" Instead, he has to delete the whole sentence and add a requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nu-Mou Knight Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 As popular as Diamond apparently is, this card still seems WAAY too situational to be used effectively. As Icy said, it'd be fun to play, just not really usable. As far as the card itself goes, it's interesting and has a nice pic. If you want ratings, 8/10. Just find some way to make this worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted September 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 [quote name='Marco Polo' timestamp='1315660534' post='5504367'] I was speaking about the beggining. "This card cannot be activated" Instead, he has to delete the whole sentence and add a requirement. [/quote] Um, no. Diamond Dude does NOT activate the card. Basically, he rips the heart of the card from the body and uses it. Or rather, he leaves the cardboard in the grave, and uses the effect. @Icy: I know Double spell won't work, but it would with one of J-Max's edits. And yes, it Is a bit situational, but get This/Dude in hand, and Plague in grave, and you're set =D Or even this and summoner monk in hand. Drop it, get diamond dude, recycle this, use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 Not even situational. Foolish, Arma Knight and Dark Grepher will set up Plaguespreader. Summoner Monk, Stratos, RotA, Sarco + Leviair and other stuf sets up D-Dude. Get this spell via Sarcophagus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 [quote name='Marco Polo' timestamp='1315660534' post='5504367'] I was speaking about the beggining. "This card cannot be activated" Instead, he has to delete the whole sentence and add a requirement. [/quote] Activating the card and activating it's effect are 2 completely different things. Do NOT ask me why I felt like posting this because it is 5:30 in the morning and I need something to do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyber_Dragoon Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 Why not try this: [b]This card's effect can only be activated when it is sent to the graveyard by your opponent's card effect. Select 1 Spell Card from your Deck and send it to the Graveyard, then activate its effect. During your Draw Phase, you can place this card in your Graveyard on top of your deck instead of conducting your normal Draw.[/b] This way activating it yourself does no good and gives it conditions for using and returning it to your deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted September 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 [quote name='Xyber_Dragoon' timestamp='1315870583' post='5510645'] Why not try this: [b]This card's effect can only be activated when it is sent to the graveyard by your opponent's card effect. Select 1 Spell Card from your Deck and send it to the Graveyard, then activate its effect. During your Draw Phase, you can place this card in your Graveyard on top of your deck instead of conducting your normal Draw.[/b] This way activating it yourself does no good and gives it conditions for using and returning it to your deck. [/quote] ... You just made it unplayable unless my opponent is running Dark World ._. The card is fine as is, in the sense of the wording, and your version costs me a draw =/ And you used the old OCG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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