Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 [quote name='Dт. Михаи́л Ботви́нник PчD' timestamp='1316368482' post='5523330'] Even though the above posters are being satirical, they are actually completely correct. [/quote] Which scares me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apostle of Calamity Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 [quote name='Devil's Advocate' timestamp='1316368807' post='5523345'] Which scares me. [/quote] A sad, sad, truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 [quote name='Eva-Chan' timestamp='1316369082' post='5523361'] A sad, sad, truth. [/quote] A lot of things scare me, actually. This one doesn't even come close to my list of "things that shock and scare people". OT: I like how we switched from depression to having Raine/Eva blow up the conversation about Free Healthcare. Was there something I missed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Sir Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 If you(as in the ambiguous you) are depressed, one of the first things that you can do to try to relieve your stress is just talking to close friends or maybe even doing something as simple as writing down what makes you angry or sad. When you've exhausted those resources, and you're certain that they haven't done you any good, that would be the time to get medical help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted September 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 [quote name='Dт. Михаи́л Ботви́нник PчD' timestamp='1316367680' post='5523290'] This option is UK-only because sadly some idiots over the Atlantic don't believe in free healthcare. [/quote] Hilariously unuseful advice then. =\ [quote name='Luxord' timestamp='1316369565' post='5523378']If you(as in the ambiguous you) are depressed, one of the first things that you can do to try to relieve your stress is just talking to close friends or maybe even doing something as simple as writing down what makes you angry or sad.[/quote] What if, hypothetically speaking, the person has no close friends? You don't exactly get depressed by being invited to parties and stuff. =\ And what if you can't quite pinpoint the exact things keeping you sad or angry or upset or whatever? Just a general feeling of saddness, not one thing in particular? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 [quote name='PikaPerson01' timestamp='1316445754' post='5525988'] Hilariously unuseful advice then. =\ [/quote] Not at all if you live in the UK like many of the inhabitants of this site do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 [quote name='Dт. Михаи́л Ботви́нник PчD' timestamp='1316448413' post='5526042'] Not at all if you live in the UK like many of the inhabitants of this site do. [/quote] Still not helpful. What you said is completely disconnected and very possible in many places in the States. Your crack was unwarranted and unfounded, or at the very least an assumption. That being said, I do not believe one should check themselves into getting checked for Clinical Depression; as the self-diagnosis factor is ever present in that case. And given how depression has many forms based on the person. That being said, I'd advise a friend to see a doctor for it when their behavior becomes increasingly disruptive of their life and they show some form of ignorance to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleZone Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 [quote name='PikaPerson01' timestamp='1316445754' post='5525988'] What if, hypothetically speaking, the person has no close friends? You don't exactly get depressed by being invited to parties and stuff. =\ And what if you can't quite pinpoint the exact things keeping you sad or angry or upset or whatever? Just a general feeling of saddness, not one thing in particular? [/quote] You understand by now (and were probably aware when you started the topic) that there's nothing linear about psychological diseases. Most of the time you [i]will [/i]have a hard time pinpointing the cause of a depression, an "overall feeling of sadness" is a very frequent onset. But if you've reached a point where you can note that you, or whoever, have been feeling sadder than usual, or just unhappy as a whole, it wouldn't be a bad idea to talk to a psychologist. People aren'tnsu7pposed to feel sad and not know why, the fact that you can tell something's off, even if it ends up being nothing, warrants a deeper look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinnamonStar Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 I don't know, like some people said above, depression and mental diseases aren't always diagnosed properly. That doesn't change the fact that a good number of these people DO suffer from depression, but sometimes people have negative phases, sometimes they're living in the wrong environment/have external factors that make them feel bad and sometimes patients are just classified as depressed when they're suffering from something totally different that isn't well known. But personally I wouldn't go by a list of symptoms, usually it's quite striking when something is wrong. But no matter what it's classified as, there's NOTHING wrong or unusual with going to a psychologist or counselor, many people go there, even though they only have "minor" problems. There are some people who are ashamed, in that case I'd suggest seeing someone who's a bit further away and works in a building where there are also other doctors. Stationary therapy at the psychiatrical section of a hospital can also help, I'm not really sure if medicine is always involved or if they just stick with group therapy and rest, but at least where I live, you're with people with similar problems, addictions, eating disorders, etc. And even if medicine is needed for a short time, many people need it as a push for a few weeks and then move on to a therapy. The cases of people who are so severely depressed that they need to be on strong medicine for the rest of their lives are quite rare, I think. (EDIT: I'm sorry, I just assumed that people were living in Europe by talking about doctors ._.) Yeah, most people will suggest to talk to friends and relatives, but sometimes you hardly have anyone in your surroundings who you can talk to.:/ So that's why people go seek help elsewhere. Hmm I don't know if you believe into it, but I'd always recommend traditional chinese medicine, Qi-Gong/Taichi Quan exercises, Yoga and that kind of stuff as a start, especially when you can't quite pinpoint how severe the sadness and lack of doing anything is. Some trainers offer individual training and trust me, quite a lot of people turn to these things because of stress/depression/burn-out and get specialized exercises. But that's only if people believe into it, if they don't believe into something, it rarely works. EDIT: Sorry if I'm talking a lot of crap, just going by personal impressions.:S But I'd also keep the lifestyle a person is leading in mind. Alcohol, quantities of alcohol, other drugs, etc. [quote name='PikaPerson01' timestamp='1316445754' post='5525988'] What if, hypothetically speaking, the person has no close friends? You don't exactly get depressed by being invited to parties and stuff. =\ [/quote] Well in cases like this, you see who your real friends are and who's just there to party with you.:/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 [quote name='Dт. Михаи́л Ботви́нник PчD' timestamp='1316448413' post='5526042'] Not at all if you live in the UK like many of the inhabitants of this site do. [/quote] I don't have the exact IP addresses and time of all the people on the site to investigate so I can't confirm exactly how many people on this site are in not-America. All I can confirm is that I am not one of them, and there is most likely plenty of people living without insurance. So once again, thanks for that hilariously unuseful advice. So... what to do if you're depressed and have no insurance or no money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Well all you can really do then is try confiding in a friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Google Courage Wolf. I'm serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 This would be easier if we dropped this whole it's-just-hypothetical I-have-this-friend business and clarified whether we're talking about you or someone you know (and if so, if we could clarify your relationship to this person). Giving a depressed person advice for helping themselves and giving someone advice for helping a depressed person are two very different tasks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 Pika, too much "what-ifs" here :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted September 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 [quote name='Crab Helmet' timestamp='1316820228' post='5535563'] This would be easier if we dropped this whole it's-just-hypothetical I-have-this-friend business and clarified whether we're talking about you or someone you know (and if so, if we could clarify your relationship to this person). Giving a depressed person advice for helping themselves and giving someone advice for helping a depressed person are two very different tasks. [/quote] [img]http://i.imgur.com/SzQMT.jpg[/img] Just assume it's for a paper I'm writing, if it troubles you that badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 If it's for a paper, [s]SUICIDE IS THE ANSWER[/s] sunshine and ponies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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