Emperor Anakai - Ruler of the Void

[brokntoster]

[img]http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/2166/451573.jpg[/img]

Lore: This card cannot be normal summoned or set, this card cannot be special summoned except by sending 5 monsters whose total level stars equal 20 or more from your deck to your Graveyard. While this card is in face up Attack position, your opponent may not declare an attack on another monster you control. While this card is in face-up defense mode, your opponent may not declare an attack on this card.

Before you say anything i know the picture doesn't look like the cartoony yugioh style, but i, for one, would be ecstatic if i got this card in a pack.

That said, comments? Suggestions?

[Blake]

ohi future fusion for everything

It's broken. It's a topdeck that allows you to ditch 5 cards you want to ditch.

The effects don't even matter, in the least. It's bannable.

The summon condition needs to be changed to something more reasonable- PReferably NOT sending things from deck to grave.

Zephyrus
Malicious
Plaguespreader
2 Lv. 4s

Bounce this with Zephyrus

Proceed to dump more.

[ragnarok1945]

bah, easy to rid of with a simple bottomless trap hole or something

you should have given it better protection

[Sander]

[quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1317800196' post='5561939']
bah, easy to rid of with a simple bottomless trap hole or something

you should have given it better protection
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Really, just shut the hell up you bloody idiot and stop posting. Nobody is benefiting from your worthless comments, NOBODY AT ALL. So do us all a favour and get better at this game, or just do as I told you to do at the start of this post. I swear, RC was bad already before you invaded it, and then you made it even worse with your shitty comments.

[Mugendramon]

[quote name='Power Play' timestamp='1317816063' post='5562045']

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Really, just shut the hell up you bloody idiot and stop posting. Nobody is benefiting from your worthless comments, NOBODY AT ALL. So do us all a favour and get better at this game, or just do as I told you to do at the start of this post. I swear, RC was bad already before you invaded it, and then you made it even worse with your shitty comments.
[/quote]

It's like you looked into my mind when you posted this.

[Blake]

[quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1317800196' post='5561939']
bah, easy to rid of with a simple bottomless trap hole or something

you should have given it better protection
[/quote][quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1317788281' post='5561672']
ohi future fusion for everything

It's broken. It's a topdeck that allows you to ditch 5 cards you want to ditch.

The effects don't even matter, in the least. It's bannable.

The summon condition needs to be changed to something more reasonable- PReferably NOT sending things from deck to grave.

Zephyrus
Malicious
Plaguespreader
2 Lv. 4s

Bounce this with Zephyrus

Proceed to dump more.
[/quote]
Did you just completely MISS my post? o.o

The card is really, REALLY broken. It actually helps you if they bottomless it, due to MOAR spam.

[Ieyasu Tokugawa]

I send a bunch of Flamvells then use rekindling.

GG.

[Phantom Roxas]

[quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1317800196' post='5561939']
bah, easy to rid of with a simple bottomless trap hole or something

you should have given it better protection
[/quote]

I doubt that this was the intention, but the best part about this card is the Graveyard advantage. Its effect beyond the summoning requirement is fine, so it doesn't need an additional effect to protect it.

[quote name='Power Play' timestamp='1317816063' post='5562045']

[img]http://i55.tinypic.com/33jq0m0.jpg[/img]

Really, just shut the hell up you bloody idiot and stop posting. Nobody is benefiting from your worthless comments, NOBODY AT ALL. So do us all a favour and get better at this game, or just do as I told you to do at the start of this post. I swear, RC was bad already before you invaded it, and then you made it even worse with your shitty comments.
[/quote]

I cannot begin to comprehend how harassment is preferable to ignorance. Yes, Ragnarok needs to learn more about this game, but your continued attitude towards him really isn't any better than the way he posts.


As for the card, I would certainly add a drawback to the summoning condition. A total level of twenty is fine, although adding the clause "If you Summon this card: Cannot Special Summon during this turn." would help balance it out and prevent using stuff like Dragon's Mirror.

[CDDRodrigo]

So easy Graveyard setup is NOT welcome. This can dump ANYTHING, at any time. Too broken.

[Flame Dragon]

[quote name='Twilight Sparkle' timestamp='1317830693' post='5562254']
I send a bunch of Flamvells then use rekindling.

GG.
[/quote]
That is rekindlings fault, not this.

Anyway, yea, a lot of the game revolves around the graveyard so all this does is give you a beater that sets up your whole game. Also, why 20? Shouldn't it match the card 's level?

So yea, line up the levels and change graveyard to banish. This way it still gives set up, but you need to work more to take advanatage of it (unless I'm forget some stupid cards). Also lower the stats, 3300 is to big for a free beater. Lower it to 2500 to 2300 depending on how good you want it/how good you think it is.

[Catterjune]

[quote name='Flame Dragon' timestamp='1317881209' post='5563660']
So yea, line up the levels and change graveyard to banish. This way it still gives set up, but you need to work more to take advanatage of it (unless I'm forget some stupid cards).
[/quote]
Necroface, Scout Plane, and Return from the Different Dimension (or Burial from a Different Dimension).

But even then, ragnarok needs to stop being so painfully oblivious to the card game and such a damn friggin' embarrassment. It's like if he's a cop who just showed up to the scene of a homocide, sees a dead body, decapitated and all that, and the first thing he notices is a crumpled ball of paper on the ground. "Bah! Littering!"

[.Rai]

[quote name='Phantom Roxas' timestamp='1317865031' post='5563334']As for the card, I would certainly add a drawback to the summoning condition. A total level of twenty is fine, although adding the clause "If you Summon this card: Cannot Special Summon during this turn." would help balance it out and prevent using stuff like Dragon's Mirror.
[/quote]

> Win next turn then :/

I think Pika summed up ragnarok completely.

Push the 20 Levels to about 5, and limit it to sending up to 3 monsters that add up to the new 5 or less, instead of 20 or more.

Then stick the ATK down to about 2000.

And then make it Level 4, so you can't abuse it completely with Level Eater.

[Flame Dragon]

[quote name='PikaPerson01' timestamp='1317931794' post='5564459']
Necroface, Scout Plane, and Return from the Different Dimension (or Burial from a Different Dimension).
[/quote]
Of those, I knew of Return, but discounted it as being the broken card. Those other I did forget about, so yea, can't remove them either. So yea, outside of adding a "those cards cannot leave the banish zone" clause to keep people from getting anything out of the set up I can't think of any way to keep the taking cards out of the deck effect to not just be massive setup.

[.Rai]

[quote name='Flame Dragon' timestamp='1317934187' post='5564547']
Of those, I knew of Return, but discounted it as being the broken card. Those other I did forget about, so yea, can't remove them either. So yea, outside of adding a "those cards cannot leave the banish zone" clause to keep people from getting anything out of the set up I can't think of any way to keep the taking cards out of the deck effect to not just be massive setup.
[/quote]

> You now have a costless 3300 Fairy-Type DARK beatstick that allows you to set up all your stuff as they can't attack them.

[Ieyasu Tokugawa]

Broken cards should not be ignored, especially when something makes them more broken :/

[Flame Dragon]

[quote name='Cursed Reaction' timestamp='1317934302' post='5564551']
> You now have a costless 3300 Fairy-Type DARK beatstick that allows you to set up all your stuff as they can't attack them.
[/quote]
I had said the stats would need to be dropped to mid 2000 at best. And I'm clearly against this being used as set up. Seriously, did you read my posts at all.

[quote name='Twilight Sparkle' timestamp='1317937592' post='5564686']
Broken cards should not be ignored, especially when something makes them more broken :/
[/quote]
You shouldn't limit design just because it interacts with a broken card. If I know a card I make interacts with a broken card I'd make a note saying "assume card x is banned." That wasn't done here, and for this to be fair even with my first fix a large number of cards would need to go.

[Blake]

[quote name='Flame Dragon' timestamp='1317942391' post='5564843']
You shuoldn't limit design just because it interacts with a broken card. If I know a card I make interacts with a broken card I'd make a note saygin "assume card x is banned." That wasn't done here, and for this to be fair even with my first fix a large number of cards would need to go.
[/quote]
That's stupid logic.

With that, considering Any cars short f Frog The Jam- Owait, Rabbit.

Yeah, pretty much every card has SOME form of abuse. So by your logic, we shouldn't consider any IRL cards.

Rekindling exists, and it isn't banned. Zephyrus, Plague, Glow-Up, Dandy, Malicious, Spore, REDRUM, Sephylon, Metaion, etc. EXIST UNBANNED.

I listed cards that abuse that, and I didn't even begin to scratch the surface, but, by your logic, we should ignore how this would wreck the meta even more, because those cards should be hit in your ideal world.

Rekindling is broken, but, next to this, THIS is insanely broken, not Rekindling. Same logic as REDRUM to FuFu

[Catterjune]

[quote name='Flame Dragon' timestamp='1317942391' post='5564843']
You shuoldn't limit design just because it interacts with a broken card. If I know a card I make interacts with a broken card I'd make a note saygin "assume card x is banned." That wasn't done here, and for this to be fair even with my first fix a large number of cards would need to go.
[/quote]
Should you limit design when it interacts with like... 15 broken and not-so-broken cards?

That's not hyperbole. I can probably think of at least 15 cards and/or combos that would abuse the hell out of this card.

Vayu + Any blackwind (or blackwing. I always forget what they're called)
Mezuki + Any zombie
Lightsworn Wulf
Treeborn Frog
Any random dark and light monster for Chaos Sorcerer or BLS-Envoy
5 Dragons + Dragon's Mirror
REDRUM + Red Eyes Wyvern
JD + 4 lightsworn monsters
Rekindling + a bunch of 200 defense pyro types (tuners and non-tuners)
D-hero Malicious
Plaguespreader Zombie
Glow Up Bulb
Spore
Dandylion
Pot of Avarice
Jinzo + Jinzo Returner
5 machines + Overload Fusion


All either give you a free +1 or win the game. Not helped by the fact that this card is a free SS of a huge beatstick. Hell, it could have zero attack and it would still be ridiculously overpowered. And being "less then level 4 so it doesn't get abused by Level Eater" doesn't help either because then it's just easy Synchro or Xyz bait, or monarch bait.

A Painful Choice effect like this will never be good for the game. You could try banishing, but then Escape from the Dark Dimension, Return from a Different Dimension, that Xyz guy that SS-es from the RFG, Different Dimension Reincarnation, all those cards become too abusable.

tl;dr - Deck thinning is always a good thing. Deck thinning + Choosing individually what you're thinning is almost inevitably gonna be broken.

[Flame Dragon]

[quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1317975602' post='5565567']
That's stupid logic.

With that, considering Any cars short f Frog The Jam- Owait, Rabbit.

Yeah, pretty much every card has SOME form of abuse. So by your logic, we shouldn't consider any IRL cards.

Rekindling exists, and it isn't banned. Zephyrus, Plague, Glow-Up, Dandy, Malicious, Spore, REDRUM, Sephylon, Metaion, etc. EXIST UNBANNED.

I listed cards that abuse that, and I didn't even begin to scratch the surface, but, by your logic, we should ignore how this would wreck the meta even more, because those cards should be hit in your ideal world.

Rekindling is broken, but, next to this, THIS is insanely broken, not Rekindling. Same logic as REDRUM to FuFu
[/quote]

[quote name='PikaPerson01' timestamp='1318002681' post='5565975']
Should you limit design when it interacts with like... 15 broken and not-so-broken cards?

That's not hyperbole. I can probably think of at least 15 cards and/or combos that would abuse the hell out of this card.

Vayu + Any blackwind (or blackwing. I always forget what they're called)
Mezuki + Any zombie
Lightsworn Wulf
Treeborn Frog
Any random dark and light monster for Chaos Sorcerer or BLS-Envoy
5 Dragons + Dragon's Mirror
REDRUM + Red Eyes Wyvern
JD + 4 lightsworn monsters
Rekindling + a bunch of 200 defense pyro types (tuners and non-tuners)
D-hero Malicious
Plaguespreader Zombie
Glow Up Bulb
Spore
Dandylion
Pot of Avarice
Jinzo + Jinzo Returner
5 machines + Overload Fusion


All either give you a free +1 or win the game. Not helped by the fact that this card is a free SS of a huge beatstick. Hell, it could have zero attack and it would still be ridiculously overpowered. And being "less then level 4 so it doesn't get abused by Level Eater" doesn't help either because then it's just easy Synchro or Xyz bait, or monarch bait.

A Painful Choice effect like this will never be good for the game. You could try banishing, but then Escape from the Dark Dimension, Return from a Different Dimension, that Xyz guy that SS-es from the RFG, Different Dimension Reincarnation, all those cards become too abusable.

tl;dr - Deck thinning is always a good thing. Deck thinning + Choosing individually what you're thinning is almost inevitably gonna be broken.
[/quote]

Again, I know how insane this is as grave set up. That is why my first suggestion had it banish the cards instead, since even fair cards would be broken with that much grave setup. However Pika pointed out their is still a number of ways to abuse it and I agreed, this kind of effect can't be done unless your very careful (ie: banish + a "can't be removed from banish zone" clause) and even then the effect is still really strong.

My point was more in regard to a small number of broken cards. If a few cards, already broken, interact unfairly with a card, I'd much rather pretend those are banned and see what happens from there. Again, going back to my banish suggest, the first card I could think to use with it was Return but since that card is broken in its own I still made the suggestion. And again, when Pika showed that a good number of fair cards would still interact unfairly with the redone effect, I more or less said what Pika says above, that deck thinning via choice is inherently broken.