Bob the Rainicorn Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 this question aims more towards members who either play IRL or play a deck consistently. If you are to say that the best decks of the format will be Plants, Agents, and Dark Worlds, then it would be reasonable to say that Dimensional Fissure will be good to use right now. Aside from these 3 core decks, many decks use common cards such as Effect Veiler, Thunder King Rai-Oh, Maxx "C", and other such cards that require to land in the graveyard to work. You could say Dimensional Fissure has a good match-up against everything that is meta right now, though there comes the sad conclusion that Tour Guide does gain advantage while Dimensional Fissure is out on the field, and since Tour Guide should be in all 3 of the best decks, Dimensional Fissure becomes a double edged sword. Though, Tour Guide is not a card for the economical player, and thus D Fissure gets the most playability against the poor. My Questions: 1) How does your deck function while Dimensional Fissure is out on the field? what cards do you play that get advantage/die from D Fissure being out? 2) What outs do you have to Dimensional Fissure, if needed, in your deck? 3) Do you side against D Fissure? 4) If your opponent plays Dimensional Fissure game 1, what would you side in for game 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Side in 3 Dust Tornados for the off chance you don't open with a Space Typhoon/Storm? (Increase the likeliness of you drawing a Spell/Trap-remover card, I guess) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 [quote name='Bob the Rainicorn' timestamp='1318907354' post='5585779'] My Questions: 1) How does your deck function while Dimensional Fissure is out on the field? what cards do you play that get advantage/die from D Fissure being out? [b]F'ing sucks.[/b] 2) What outs do you have to Dimensional Fissure, if needed, in your deck? [b]D-Fissure would suck in my Deck, since it relies on Graveyard balance. GRAVEYARD balance.[/b] 3) Do you side against D Fissure? [b]I would figure 3 MST, 3 Dust Tornado, and 1 Heavy Storm would be enough, along with 3 Ryko and 2 Celestia, Breaker, etc. =\[/b] 4) If your opponent plays Dimensional Fissure game 1, what would you side in for game 2? [b]See above.[/b] [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowferret Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 I run Infernity a lot, so D-Fissure can be a bit of a problem. 1) How does your deck function while Dimensional Fissure is out on the field? what cards do you play that get advantage/die from D Fissure being out? If it's not turn 1, I can usually just wait to draw Heavy or Infernity Break (I main 3). But if D Fissure comes out first turn, it becomes a bit difficult to play around, and I end up depending on Leviair way more than I should. 2) What outs do you have to Dimensional Fissure, if needed, in your deck? Just Heavy and Break, really. And I suppose Leviair could count, as well as that random Black Rose. Oh, and Brionac, if I'm gonna be exploding that turn. Or Mist Wurm. but if I don't have the set up already by the time Fissure comes out, most of these outs are dead. 3) Do you side against D Fissure? I side 3 MST and 3 Dust Tornado for any random Macro decks, or to counter-side when the opponent sides in D-Fissures (or Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror). 4) If your opponent plays Dimensional Fissure game 1, what would you side in for game 2? Like stated, 3 MST, 3 Dust Tornado. Usually take out all the fun stuff (like them extra monsters), and just leave the core combo in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 [quote name='Bob the Rainicorn' timestamp='1318907354' post='5585779'] My Questions: 1) How does your deck function while Dimensional Fissure is out on the field? what cards do you play that get advantage/die from D Fissure being out? [b]Disaster Dragons ultimately loathes both this and Gozen Match with a deep, fiery passion. It just dies against Fissure.[/b] 2) What outs do you have to Dimensional Fissure, if needed, in your deck? [b]Heavy Storm, Black Rose, Mystical Space Typhoons, Scrap Dragon, and Brionac. Not much else.[/b] 3) Do you side against D Fissure? [b]I've been considering siding 2-3 Curse Seal of the Forbidden Spell in case my opponent uses D Fissure, just for games 2 and 3.[/b] 4) If your opponent plays Dimensional Fissure game 1, what would you side in for game 2? [b]Curse Seal. And I'll leave it in the entire game, since there'll probably be Macro Cosmos in there as well, which I can use my MSTs and Heavy on.[/b] [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wave_Sine Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 [quote name='Bob the Rainicorn' timestamp='1318907354' post='5585779'] 1) How does your deck function while Dimensional Fissure is out on the field? what cards do you play that get advantage/die from D Fissure being out? 2) What outs do you have to Dimensional Fissure, if needed, in your deck? 3) Do you side against D Fissure? 4) If your opponent plays Dimensional Fissure game 1, what would you side in for game 2? [/quote] 1) Decently, I guess. I'd rather Macro be on the field, but D Fissure is good enough for the early game, regardless of who controls it. Pretty much the entire deck benefits from D Fissure, but cards like Gren Maju Da Eiza, D.D. Dynamite, and Soul Absorption stand out. 2) 'Outs'? If you mean counters or ways to get around it, then my deck is based on RFG so if my opponent isn't capitalizing on the RFG zone, then I certainly am. 3) Nope. 4) Nothing. The deck is benefited by D Fissure, no matter who's running it. If they're using it, it saves S/T space of my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 [b]1) How does your deck function while Dimensional Fissure is out on the field? what cards do you play that get advantage/die from D Fissure being out?[/b] I always hope to have a D-Fissure on the field at any time, or even better, Banisher or Macro. Stardust Dragon (and last year Goyo Guardian) are just beatsticks (or 1-time emergency savers, in Stardust's case) while Fissure is on the field. Part of my side deck is also dead if I don't take the mass-banishing stuff when I main them, like Sangan, Electric Virus/Puppet Plant or Monster Reborn, but I generally take the banish second game because half of the sidedeck of all of the regular players is to counter my deck... [b]2) What outs do you have to Dimensional Fissure, if needed, in your deck?[/b] I don't really ever need an out, but, if for some weird reason I needed it, I have Heavy Storm, 2 Typhoon, Caius, Raiza (keeps it out for 1 turn), Kuraz (in fun games), and in the side I have another Typhoon and Fairy Wind. [b]3) Do you side against D Fissure?[/b] I do not. [b]4) If your opponent plays Dimensional Fissure game 1, what would you side in for game 2?[/b] I have actually never been in that situation, but I guess I could put in some way to return Necroface to my hand for normal summoning it multiple times, as that would be trolly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Best part are you guys actually answering his questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 [quote name='Konoe A. Mercury' timestamp='1318971929' post='5586759'] Best part are you guys actually answering his questions. [/quote] I know right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 ... This is a really quality topic. I like it. =D On-topic though, I don't play IRL so my opinion's not really worth much here, but D-Fissure's always felt like one of those hit-or-miss cards. Especially since most stuff had really weird synergy with it. Like, if you get it out opening turn, it can really screw with your opponent. It can also feed into a lot of combos, like Scout Plane and Survivor. However, if you don't get it off first turn you're left with crap that might as well be Vanillas in your hand. When it goes off first turn, it can really wreck. When it doesn't go off first turn(about 50/50 chance, something like .56) you're typically screwed. In short, your deck shouldn't be focused on Dimension Fissure, but if it's a deck that doesn't exploit the RFG or a deck that doesn't exploit the grave, then it's probably just a crappy deck like Vanilla beat or something. In regards to the question... 1) I play Karakuri's on DN. Stuff like Kuick (which is one of my favourite combos) dies, as does Pot of Avarice, and I think so does that... level 7... Machina... thing... Gearframe? But the deck is one of those "either it wins or loses" kinds of decks. If I haven't won by turn 5 or 6, I'm probably not going to. And obvious stuff like Monster Reborn, but that goes without saying. 2) 3 MSTs and Heavy Storm. 3) Lol, DN doesn't have sides. D= 4) I don't side, but if I did I'd probably put in Breaker the Magical Warrior or something like that. Breaker is cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 [quote name='PikaPerson01' timestamp='1318974373' post='5586848'] 3) Lol, DN doesn't have sides. D=[/quote] Yea, I always wondered why they have the Side deck section, yet, don't ever really give you the chance to side anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 [quote name='Bob the Rainicorn' timestamp='1318907354' post='5585779'] My Questions: 1) How does your deck function while Dimensional Fissure is out on the field? what cards do you play that get advantage/die from D Fissure being out? 2) What outs do you have to Dimensional Fissure, if needed, in your deck? 3) Do you side against D Fissure? 4) If your opponent plays Dimensional Fissure game 1, what would you side in for game 2? [/quote] [b][u]FlamvellChaosworn[/u][/b] 1) My deck does pretty terribly (as you could guess). The best I can do to capitalize is Leviair. 2) It does have lots of S/T killers in Lyla, Ryko, Scrap Dragon, MST, and Heavy Storm though. 3) Either Fairy Winds or Imperial Iron Wall 4) Aren't questions 3 and 4 the same? I'd probably just remove Envoy for them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob the Rainicorn Posted October 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 [quote name='Konoe%20A%2E%20Mercury' timestamp='1318971929' post='5586759'] Best part are you guys actually answering her questions. [/quote] If that is your attitude then clearly my reputation is so powerful that I can troll without trying to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 [quote name='Konoe A. Mercury' timestamp='1318971929' post='5586759'] Best part are you guys actually answering his questions. [/quote] Until your spammy trolly spam post that is. On-topic though, someone should work on an archetype that gains effects from stuff from the grave and stuff from the RFG (and also isn't generic so stuff can be abused with them). As much as I like a deck that prevents your opponent from winning.... you don't win the duel for preventing your opponent from winning. You win by... winning. *captain obvious* Stalling with Macro Cosmos or D-Fissure is just prolonging the inevitable, until you draw into whatever you plan to win with. Which is why D-Fissure isn't that mainable... IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 [quote name='Bob the Rainicorn' timestamp='1318907354' post='5585779'] My Questions: 1) How does your deck function while Dimensional Fissure is out on the field? what cards do you play that get advantage/die from D Fissure being out?[/quote] If I open with a Tour Guide in hand, a first turn Dimensional Fissure does nothing. Especially since I play a Mystic Piper.dek at the moment. If I do not open with Tour Guide, I am at a little disadvantage. [quote name='Bob the Rainicorn' timestamp='1318907354' post='5585779'] 2) What outs do you have to Dimensional Fissure, if needed, in your deck?[/quote] MST and Heavy are really the only removal cards I need. [quote name='Bob the Rainicorn' timestamp='1318907354' post='5585779'] 3) Do you side against D Fissure?[/quote] I play on DMG and DN. Nobody even thinks about the side deck in those games. [quote name='Bob the Rainicorn' timestamp='1318907354' post='5585779'] 4) If your opponent plays Dimensional Fissure game 1, what would you side in for game 2? [/quote] If I'm forced, then probably 3 Dust Tornado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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