Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 [img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110701214314/yugioh/images/thumb/1/1d/RoyalOppressionGLD4-EN-GUR-LE.png/300px-RoyalOppressionGLD4-EN-GUR-LE.png[/img] [quote="Miror B."][quote="Occultdude17"][quote="Miror B."][quote="Occultdude17"]Royal Oppression? Meh. All that does is force you to win with Normal Summons, making it the perfect counter-swarm card. What's the problem?[/quote] The problem is that it can be run in decks like Blackwings to go "HURR DURR SWARM FIELD ACTIVATE OPPRESSION YOU CAN'T WIN!!"[/quote] If they've swarmed the field, Special Summons won't do anything. A card that stopped the opponent activating "Dark Hole" would be broken.[/quote] You mean White Hole? Yea, useless. And if they've swarmed the field, the only real way outside of topdecking a limited card to win would be to swarm the field yourself. How are you going to do that with Oppression on the field?[/quote] Waiting for response, so until then discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 LOL DN Forums. Card is deservingly @0 because it dared to be more useful on a different way of what it was meant to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 I always disliked it. If this returns, I'll start playing Frognarchs or something like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Thank god this card is banned. It was so cheap in so many decks, because if you're winning, your opponent's screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Before, when it was@3, it [i]ONLY[/i] existed in anti-meta decks. ..... Then people got smart, and abused the hell out of this in ways the OP listed. And that's pretty much what caused this card to go to 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Royal Prison is an alright replacement, simply because it can't be abused in a stupid way. loldnforums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 I beat an opponent down using this. ROYAL OPPRESSION BEATDOWN!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 I remember trading this for a Brionac the day after it got banned because someone was dumb. <3 Anyways, I wish it could be remade into: "You cannot control a Special Summoned monster." Or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Every time my opp used this, my face was like that guy being oppressed on the pic of this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendary Dragon Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Royal Oppression is like forcing you to use old Yu-Gi-Monz. Thank god its gone, no more teching 1 Caius! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 [quote name='Hydreigoon' timestamp='1323402337' post='5696691'] Royal Oppression is like forcing you to use old Yu-Gi-Monz. [/quote] Old Yu-Gi-Monz was good, though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendary Dragon Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Meh. I was always fun to use Summoned Skull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 [quote name='Rainbow Dash' timestamp='1313738253' post='5454572'] "Die monster, you don't belong in the format!" "Monster! You should be paying Life Points for me!" "Paying Life Points?! You negate Special Summons and make players rage!" "WHAT IS A SPECIAL SUMMON, BUT A BROKEN LITTLE PILE OF GAME-BREAKAGE! But enough talk! Have at you!" [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdom Xathers Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Because nowadays, the current cost of negating Special Summons should be 2000 LP or the payment for Shinigami Eyes. > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted December 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 [quote="Miror B."][quote="Occultdude17"][quote="Garion1991"][quote="Occultdude17"]If they've swarmed the field, Special Summons won't do anything. A card that stopped the opponent activating "Dark Hole" would be broken.[/quote] [b]THIS IS ANOTHER MEMBER COMING INTO THE CONVO.[/b] u can mount a comeback with special summons such as a frog single/double tribute, top deck BLS, Dark Creator + SS, Synchro combos, etc etc Royal Oppression locks out most comebacks that are not spells or traps, even then Royal Oppression can lock out some spell or trap comebacks i dont see how it is not justified to be banned, i view it on par with Imperial Order granted, limiting it to one can be justified, but a ban seems reasonable enough[/quote] I thought people on this website objected to winning through luck? Isn't that why there's a big hoo-ha about Pot of Greed?[/quote] [b]THIS IS ME AGAIN.[/b] No, that's not why there's a big hoo-ha about Pot of Greed. Pot of Greed is a +1 for every single deck in the game with no cost whatsoever. It's broke. That's why there's a big hoo-ha. Royal Oppression is fine if it's used in anti-meta like it was designed to. Then people got smart and used it in their own Special Summon heavy decks to gain advantage then keep your opponent from gaining their own.[/quote] I love this guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 [quote name='Rainbow Dash' timestamp='1323404085' post='5696731'] [/quote] Right, although Special Summons are too common and most Decks are too dependant of them for a card like this that screws it so easily to exist. inb4 Konami starts releasing cards with effects along the lines of: [b]Target 1 monster on either player's Graveyard; Normal Summon it to your side of the field (it does not count towards your Normal Summon or Set of the turn).[/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendary Dragon Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 ..........Dude stop reading my mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 I remember when I only played anti-meta, and was pissed when this went to 1. Thank God it's gone now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 An idea where Special Summons aren't treated as Special Summons? That's...a bit puzzling, but interesting concept. Anyway, I hate this card so much, and always felt dirty about using it. It just shuts down too much, and gains advantage for it. The reason why Oppression is bad, but SS lockdown cards (Fossil Dyna, Vanity's Fiend, etc) aren't. - Oppression can be Flipped to an effect that SSes or an inherent SS and negate the card and destroy it. So if Oppression isnt destroyed in chain, it's a +0 disruptive destruction for 800 LP (calculated to include it eventually being sent to the Graveyard over the course of the Duel). In addition, it can be reused at the price that your opponent knows about it now, letting you get additional plusses as long as it's out. - SS lockdowns just prevent players from doing it. Players don't actively lose resources due to a SS lockdown, although it makes some cards dead until the lockdown is removed. If the lockdown is stopped, they then have all those cards still available to them. So with Oppression, a player has 2 options: Stop Special Summoning entirely, locking down most decks' key mechanic, or severely drain their resources to try to force the opponent to forego Oppression/run out of LP to pay. If the opponent already SSed some good monsters, damaging the opponent by conventional means without SSing is nearly impossible. Also, Oppression's use is optional, so a player using it can ignore the SS of TG Striker and TG Warwolf, and Oppress a Synchro Summon. Since it negates Summons and not simply destroys them, most outs are unavailable and effects can't be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 This returns. I play 3x Trap Eatorz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCG warrior Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 why should this card be banned in this format? We have 3 mst and a heavy storm on top of that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 [quote name='TCG warrior' timestamp='1323461120' post='5697402'] why should this card be banned in this format? We have 3 mst and a heavy storm on top of that! [/quote] Best reasoning ever. You deserve a prize. /sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 [quote name='TCG warrior' timestamp='1323461120' post='5697402'] why should this card be banned in this format? We have 3 mst and a heavy storm on top of that! [/quote] If you, y'know... played when this card was Playable, you KNOW why It's banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 [quote name='TCG warrior' timestamp='1323461120' post='5697402'] why should this card be banned in this format? We have 3 mst and a heavy storm on top of that! [/quote] It shuts down a major game mechanic that the entire meta revolves around, while destroying resources, for a small cost. While both players do have access to the effect, it's most often used in Decks that run cards that work around the effect (Grandmaster of the Six Samurai, Vayu) or can bring out a lot of threats before flipping this, putting a ton of pressure on your opponent and all but killing any chance of a comeback. It's not unstoppable, but it's still abusable, and that's a reason to ban it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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