Canadian Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 ? = not sure [b]Banned:[/b] - Black Luster Soldier – Envoy of the Beginning - Sangan - Future Fusion - Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier - Dandylion ? Monster Reborn [b]Limited:[/b] - Master Hyperion - Rescue Rabbit - Inzektor Hornet - Wind-Up Zenmaity - Mystical Space Typhoon - Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World ? Royal Oppression ? Judgement Dragon [b]Semi-Limited:[/b] n/a [b]Unlimited:[/b] - Summoner Monk - Primal Seed - Magical Stone Excavation (seriously, I think Konami forgets this is even here) ? Destiny Draw Disagree? Feel free to post your thoughts on my choices. As well, please post your own Banlist predictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Primal Seed will stay where it is, even if BLS is rebanned. It's still abusable at 3 in Traditional, and it was only untouched until now because Traditional doesn't matter. I don't think they'll bother removing Primal Seed from the list again. It does nothing in Advanced if BLS and CED are banned, but because of Traditional still existing, they'll probably just leave it where it is. I dont think Limiting Hornet is needed. You only need 1 and Inzektors use dump cards anyway, like Foolish and Armageddon Knight (in some builds, anyway). I dont know how Inzektors should be hit, though. MST is fine where it is. Most people only play 2 anyway. Dark Worlds kind of suck. Grapha wont be hit. Oppression should stay banned forever. It's broken and gives too much advantage to one player. LS aren't doing better. JD probably wont move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Hit Inzektors creatively. Hit Centipede to 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 JD should stay at 3 Hitting Hornet doesnt doo much the rest I really like, even mst at 1 tho I wouldnt mind Gale and Kalut at 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoseSymphony Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1326569432' post='5764199'] ? = not sure [b]Banned:[/b] - Black Luster Soldier – Envoy of the Beginning - Sangan - [b]Ugh, this needs to happen. End TGU's stupidity. I doubt Konami would do it though. [/b] - Future Fusion - Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier -[b] As much as I don't personally want to see it go, doing it would make sense. But at least bring back Goyo so we have a half-decent Lv. 6.[/b] - Dandylion - [b]I want it banned so I can see Lonefire not on the Limited list anymore.[/b] ? Monster Reborn [b]- Legendary Six Samurai - Shi En - Card is retardly broke, in my opinion, and I hate Six Sams with a burning passion. Unfortunately I doubt my prayers will be answered. Limited:[/b] - Master Hyperion - Rescue Rabbit - Inzektor Hornet - Wind-Up Zenmaity - Mystical Space Typhoon - Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World - [b]KILL IT WITH FIRE.[/b] ? Royal Oppression - [b]Just stay banned, you. Leave my Plants alone.[/b] ? Judgement Dragon -[b]Agree to everything here except MST, Hornet, and Oppression. MST can stay, and Hornet can still be retardedly abused at one, so I think Dragonfly should be hit. But to rest of this list, GTFO of our metagame. Seriously.[/b] [b]Semi-Limited:[/b] - [b]Lonefire Blossom - this or unlimited. I want Lonefire back. ;A;[/b] [b]- Wind-Up Rat - This, along with Limited Zenmaity, I think would balance Wind-Ups a little. I think.[/b] [b]Unlimited:[/b] - Summoner Monk - [b]Yay Gishkis.[/b] - Primal Seed - Magical Stone Excavation (seriously, I think Konami forgets this is even here) -[b]I didn't even realize it was still there. o-o[/b] ? Destiny Draw Disagree? Feel free to post your thoughts on my choices. As well, please post your own Banlist predictions. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut - Envoy of the End Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 No-one mentioned TGU yet? With serious face on, as long as Brionac burns and suffers in fiery pits of hell then I'm pretty happy. And unchain Chaos Emperor Dragon!!! *shot* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 We have tons of decent level 6 synchros. Orient, Chain, Gaia and Uruquizas are all decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoseSymphony Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 [quote name='Verz Bahamut' timestamp='1326570625' post='5764211'] No-one mentioned TGU yet? With serious face on, as long as Brionac burns and suffers in fiery pits of hell then I'm pretty happy. And unchain Chaos Emperor Dragon!!! *shot* [/quote] TGU can't be hit cuz it's not in the OCG yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeal Ascendant Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 I agree with most stuff, except rabbit will probably be semi'd, not limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Personally, I wouldn't even bother with restricting MST. It's a healthy card and a lot of people are siding it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organized Chaos Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1326569432' post='5764199'] ? = not sure [b]Banned:[/b] - Black Luster Soldier – Envoy of the Beginning - Sangan - Future Fusion [b]I really don't agree. Future Fusion is a key card in Heroes/Gemknights/etc and help set up the graveyard for Miracle Fusion/Dragon Mirror/etc. It takes 2 turns to Summon the monster, 2 turns where it can be Heavy Storm'ed/ MST'ed/Hornet'd/etc. If anything, ban the cards that abuse the graveyard capacity for Fusions/DAD/etc.[/b] - Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier - Dandylion ? Monster Reborn [b]Limited:[/b] - Master Hyperion - Rescue Rabbit [b]This will never be Limited. It deserves to be but it shall never be Limited because Konami are too derp-tarded to realise their mistakes.[/b] - Inzektor Hornet [b]YES.[/b] - Wind-Up Zenmaity - Mystical Space Typhoon [b]This card is only played about twice per turn but I do agree. Or at least Semi'd again.[/b] - Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World ? Royal Oppression ? Judgement Dragon [b]Lightsworn only just get their boss back and then they have to 1 of it ? Even now when this card is at 3, Lightsworn is still outclassed by Wind-Ups/Inzektors/Dino Rabbit/etc. [/b] [b]Semi-Limited:[/b] [b]XX-Saber Faultroll. X-Sabers can get this card out so quickly then they just overload on Synchros. Not Limited though.[/b] [b]Unlimited:[/b] - Summoner Monk - Primal Seed - Magical Stone Excavation (seriously, I think Konami forgets this is even here) ? Destiny Draw [b]I would say Semi'd or else DestinyDAD will make a comeback despite DAD being Limited. But they have ways.[/b] [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted January 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1326570271' post='5764206'] I dont think Limiting Hornet is needed. You only need 1 and Inzektors use dump cards anyway, like Foolish and Armageddon Knight (in some builds, anyway). I dont know how Inzektors should be hit, though. [/quote] Limiting hornet cripples the deck while still allowing to be competative and make big plays. Also, it allows opposing players to effectively play against the deck with a single D.D. Crow. I can add reasons to each of my selections if you all want, but I think they are pretty obvious for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Except D-Fissure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Banned: - Black Luster Soldier – Envoy of the Beginning - Sangan - Future Fusion [Preferable, but doubtful] - Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier - Dandylion - Wind-Up Zenmaighty [Or Limited] - Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier [Not sure] - Gorz the Emissary of Darkness Limited: - Archlord Kristya - Rescue Rabbit - Inzektor Dragonfly - Wind-Up Zenmaighty [Or banned] - Agent of Mystery - Earth - Tsukiyomi [Or next September] Semi-Limited: - Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind - Blackwing - Kalut the Moon Shadow - Gladiator Beast Bestiari - Spirit Reaper [Possible] Unlimited: - Magical Stone Excavation Probably missed something. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 You see, they really should just put Damsel @1. Then they'd be balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 earth shouldnt be limited zenmaighty shouldnt be hit or wind ups would just be bad to make it a competative deck just limit rat so they dont loop that easily or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 People arguing that Zenmaity and Fufu are key cards is stupid, and you should feel bad for saying it =/ They deserve hits, even if they don't get them, though Zenmaity will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 konami wont hit wind ups or inzektors much because they are only a 3 month archetype (wind ups before that didnt even exist tbh) in the tcg, idk about ocg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 If Zenmaighty doesn't then I won't even bother playing post-March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 I still don't think Brionac should be hit OP's list doesn't have enough bans. that being said, it's still pretty realistic and i wouldn't mind if it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Banned Sangan Future Fusion Dandylion Legendary Six Samurai Shi En Limited Tsukiomi Wind Up Zenmaighty Master Hyperion Semi Grapha Dragon Lord of the Dark World Blackwing Gale the Whirlwind At least thats what I'm hoping for. Signs point to BLS staying around for another format, and Konami probably won't touch Rabbit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 [quote name='RAEGING DOGKING' timestamp='1326575547' post='5764336'] konami wont hit wind ups or inzektors much because they are only a 3 month archetype (wind ups before that didnt even exist tbh) in the tcg, idk about ocg [/quote] Just hit Hunter. Problem solved (I wouldn't mind the swarming shenanigans with Shark, but Hand Kill is just annoyingly easy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 [quote name='Koloktos' timestamp='1326577105' post='5764371'] Just hit Hunter. Problem solved (I wouldn't mind the swarming shenanigans with Shark, but Hand Kill is just annoyingly easy). [/quote] Hunter isn't broken. Seriously, people HUNTER IS FINE. RAT IS FINE. SHARK AND ZENMAITY ARE BROKEN AS HELL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 The easiest answer to the Hunter vs Zenmaity is the same as comparing Butterfly Dagger to Gearfried, except both cards are decent, instead of meh. If Hunter is removed from the equation, the various spam potential is still there. You just don't hand-kill your opponent. If Zenmaity is removed from the equation, how much spam is still there, and how much damage can Hunter still do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1326569432' post='5764199'] ? = not sure [b]Banned:[/b] - Black Luster Soldier – Envoy of the Beginning [b]It's fine at 1[/b] - Sangan [b]It's fine at 1[/b] - Future Fusion [b]It's fine at 1[/b] - Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier [b]It's fine at 1[/b] - Dandylion [b]Good.[/b] ? Monster Reborn [b]It's fine at 1[/b] [b]Limited:[/b] - Master Hyperion [b]Good.[/b] - Rescue Rabbit [b]Good.[/b] - Inzektor Hornet [b]It's fine at 3[/b] - Wind-Up Zenmaity [b]Good.[/b] - Mystical Space Typhoon [b]It's fine at 3[/b] - Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World [b]It's fine at 3[/b] ? Royal Oppression [b]Stays at 0[/b] ? Judgement Dragon [b]It's fine at 333[/b] [/quote] BLS is a lucksack, but it's a necesarry evil. Besides, in the OCG it's less of a threat. Sangan isn't the problem, it's Tour Guide which should go to 2 once it hits the OCG. Future Fusion OTKs are inconsistent. Brionac loops are bad for the game, but I've never seen it top tournaments. Reborn is a lucksack, but just it wouldn't lead to instant victory. Hornet isn't the problem, it's Dragonfly. It to 1 will crush all the bugs on its own. MST is fine at 3. DWs suck, so Grapha is okay at 3. Oppression is terrible card design and should never come back. Lightsworns are like, Tier 4, so JD shouldn't be hit. I personally believe the good limiting of Mystical Shine Ball can also be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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