Number C32: Shark Dragon Vice

[Blake]

Number C32: Shark Drake Vice
Rank 4 WATER Sea Serpent-Type Xyz Monster Card
2800 ATK
2100 DEF
3 level 4 WATER monsters
You can also Xyz Summon this card by using a "Number 32: Shark Drake" you control as the Xyz Material. (Xyz Materials attached to that monster also become Xyz Materials on this card.) This card can attack every monster your opponent controls (one attack on each monster per Battle Phase). When this card destroys an opponent's monster by battle: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; inflict damage to your opponent equal to the destroyed monster's ATK. You must have 1000 Life Points or less to activate and to resolve this effect.

Apparently the effect for AT LEAST the anime.

And if the wording's right, the multi-attack is continuous and has nothing to do with LP.

[Canadian]

Junk.

[-Berserker-]

I would use it. I don't even need Shakr Drake to summon it.

[evilfusion]

Interesting.

3 Level 4 WATER is kind of unsurprising, or using Shark Drake itself.

It can attack all opposing monsters, and if your LP is 1000 or less, you can detach a Material when it kills a monster for the Flame Wingman effect.

I like it. Then again, I recently remembered Number 32 is badass.

The biggest issue is that it's not really the same grade of game clincher that Number C39 is. C39 has several perks. For one, Utopia only uses 2 Level 4s, so it's much easier to play out of nowhere, especially in Rabbit Decks, because you can drop the Materials down with just one card and immediately upgrade to the Chaos Number. Furthermore, Utopia's effect has the downside of self-destructing if it has no Materials, so sometimes you want to upgrade to Number C39 purely to keep your 2500 beatstick out. Number 32 doesn't have the same downside that makes upgrading a strategic venture.

[Lonk]

It's a bigger game finisher than Shark Drake already is, so it has to be difficult, yet reasonable to summon.

[Thomas★Zero]

The fact that its a 2800 Multi attack (one monster per battle) makes it decent enough as it is and the Flame wingman effect for the 1000 LP remainder activation just makes it pure brutaility.

[evilfusion]

[quote name='kingdom Neos' timestamp='1336428407' post='5934546']
The fact that its a 2800 Multi attack (one monster per battle) makes it decent enough as it is and the Flame wingman effect for the 1000 LP remainder activation just makes it pure brutaility.
[/quote]

While true, Number C39 is much easier to Summon (1 less Material than Shark Drake needs, same Rank) and can weaken a big monster (or several monsters) while strengthening itself when you have 1000 LP or less. Utopia Ray is roughly 4000 damage out of nowhere, and much more reliable as a comeback card.

Fortunately, this can evidently multi-attack without using an Overlay or having an LP restriction, so it has uses.

[Agro]

The difference between this and U-Ray is that people actually run Utopia.

[Toffee.]

Just be a Scrub and run a bunch of Cloudians in Attack Mode.

...Detaching for Flame Wing effect seems a little iffy.

[Jord200]

The fact it would require 3 Level 4 WATER monsters was a given. I'm a bit disapointed that it needs 1000 or less. This will probably be the same when/if we see more Chaos Numbers. Its ok. Its just people usually run Shock Ruler, Disigma, or Orboruos before Shark Drake. It MIGHT have a different effect IRL. Lets just see how it all turns out.

[byak]

It's actually really interesting.

[Blake]

I honestly love it, even if it's not gonna be practical. The thing wrong here is how almost all of you are thinking so inside the box about it and acting like it:
A. Be used when you have less than 1000 LP.
B. Even REMOTELY comparable to C39 other than archetype/sub-archetype.
and/or
C. Shark Drake isn't run so this won't be.

This thing is walking OTK fuel. Xyz into Shark Drake, automatically go into this, and congrats,you now have a 2800 monster that rips apart all of their monsters, like Raigeki.

It's not comparable to C39 because that's a last ditch effort/way to dodge Utopia backlash/way to troll with Mind Control. This is an anytime multi-attacking beatstick that turns into Flame Wingman when you're cornered, though this thing generally wouldn't be used like that. Not to mention Utopia Ray is a vanilla until late game and basically takes 2 materials.

Also, think about Big Fish. This gives Big Fish a giant Battle-Raigeki with respectable stats without even running Shark Drake. May not be practical, but it could easily work, and I'm sure something else will rise to abuse this. 2800 with basically infinite attacks that comes from the extra deck is amazing, even if not practical. Think of it as a basically easier (though that's really subjective) Quasar in a sense. Takes up 2 slots and pushes for a ridiculous OTK.

So think about it DIFFERENTLY than Utopia Ray

[Dementuo]

Revealed at last.

Well, it seems interesting enough. Not as easy-to-use as Utopia, nor nearly as practical. Although, it seems like the Multi-Attacking effect can be used regardless of LP, since it looks like it just says you need -1000 LP to use the Overlay effect.

[Jord200]

[quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1336441831' post='5934749']
I honestly love it, even if it's not gonna be practical. The thing wrong here is how almost all of you are thinking so inside the box about it and acting like it:
A. Be used when you have less than 1000 LP.
B. Even REMOTELY comparable to C39 other than archetype/sub-archetype.
and/or
C. Shark Drake isn't run so this won't be.

This thing is walking OTK fuel. Xyz into Shark Drake, automatically go into this, and congrats,you now have a 2800 monster that rips apart all of their monsters, like Raigeki.

It's not comparable to C39 because that's a last ditch effort/way to dodge Utopia backlash/way to troll with Mind Control. This is an anytime multi-attacking beatstick that turns into Flame Wingman when you're cornered, though this thing generally wouldn't be used like that. Not to mention Utopia Ray is a vanilla until late game and basically takes 2 materials.

Also, think about Big Fish. This gives Big Fish a giant Battle-Raigeki with respectable stats without even running Shark Drake. May not be practical, but it could easily work, and I'm sure something else will rise to abuse this. 2800 with basically infinite attacks that comes from the extra deck is amazing, even if not practical. Think of it as a basically easier (though that's really subjective) Quasar in a sense. Takes up 2 slots and pushes for a ridiculous OTK.

So think about it DIFFERENTLY than Utopia Ray
[/quote][quote name='Dementuo Black Sun' timestamp='1336445650' post='5934844']
Revealed at last.

Well, it seems interesting enough. Not as easy-to-use as Utopia, nor nearly as practical. Although, it seems like the Multi-Attacking effect can be used regardless of LP, since it looks like it just says you need -1000 LP to use the Overlay effect.
[/quote]

If only Shark Drake saw play...... Still, Big Fish Chaos 32 sounds hilarious and fun. Its a good thing it can mulltple attack, so thats a plus.

[Blake]

[quote name='Jord200' timestamp='1336446318' post='5934858']
If only Shark Drake saw play...... Still, Big Fish Chaos 32 sounds hilarious and fun. Its a good thing it can mulltple attack, so thats a plus.
[/quote]
... SERIOUSLY? Shark Drake could see play SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THIS.

This was the whole point of C. Acting like "Shark rake isnt run so this is bad" is stupid, because this gives it a reason to be run in the right deck.

[DARKPLANT RISING]

I can't see this in tournament play, but it seems hilarious.

[Dementuo]

[quote name='Darkplant - VENOM' timestamp='1336446936' post='5934866']
I can't see this in tournament play, but it seems hilarious.
[/quote]
That's what everyone said about Utopia Ray.

[DARKPLANT RISING]

[quote name='Dementuo Black Sun' timestamp='1336447295' post='5934875']
That's what everyone said about Utopia Ray.
[/quote]
Getting out 2 monsters is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay easier than getting out 3. Unless they make a 3-monster-SS-version of Rescue Rabbit, which they won't. [color=#FFFFFF]Or will they?[/color]

[Agro]

[quote name='Darkplant - VENOM' timestamp='1336447463' post='5934877']
Getting out 2 monsters is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more easier than getting out 3. Unless they make a 3-monster-SS-version of Rescue Rabbit, which they won't. [color=#FFFFFF]Or will they?[/color]
[/quote]Plus you're playing under the assumption that your Opponent will use it too so you can Mind Control it.

[Blake]

[quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1336447665' post='5934883']
Plus you're playing under the assumption that your Opponent will use it too so you can Mind Control it.
[/quote]
Because this is 100% just like Utopia Ray and isn't a Raigeki, albeit by battle, @2800 for 3 materials ._.

Darkplant's point is solid, yours isn't. I would gladly give up 3 monsters for this depending on the situation .~.

Again, it's similar to Quasar in usage if you think about it. -1200 and Negating, +Infinite attacks for each new monster on the field, so their CotH can QQ.

It's not better than Quasar at all, but you're comparing a Vanilla 2500/2000 that sits on top of Stardust to Quasar and saying Quasar sucks, basically =/

[Agro]

[quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1336448286' post='5934891']
Because this is 100% just like Utopia Ray and isn't a Raigeki, albeit by battle, @2800 for 3 materials ._.

Darkplant's point is solid, yours isn't. I would gladly give up 3 monsters for this depending on the situation .~.

Again, it's similar to Quasar in usage if you think about it. -1200 and Negating, +Infinite attacks for each new monster on the field, so their CotH can QQ.

It's not better than Quasar at all, but you're comparing a Vanilla 2500/2000 that sits on top of Stardust to Quasar and saying Quasar sucks, basically =/
[/quote]If Quasar wasn't a game-ender and other cards did what it does better.

I would honestly rather make a deck around this guy:

[img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100905154826/yugioh/images/thumb/f/f0/TyrantDragonRP02-EN-SR-UE.jpg/300px-TyrantDragonRP02-EN-SR-UE.jpg[/img]

[Blake]

[quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1336448540' post='5934894']
If Quasar wasn't a game-ender and other cards did what it does better.
[/quote]
This is a game ender, it's absolute OTK fuel ._.

And what else kills their whole field while damaging them for it that can be used in any given deck that this can?

No, your whole point, and the point of most people in this thread, is "BAWW I CAN'T MIND CONTROL IT IT SUCKS". Think outside the box, people.

Not everything is meta, and you can't always compare cards because they're similar in a certain aspect.

Comparing this and C39 is like comparing Maestroke to Tsukuyomi. It's completely illogical to do so, yet people insist on doing it anyways.

It's worth the 3 materials because it all depends on the situation. If they have something with more than 2800, why the hell WOULD you summon this? You wouldn't, you'd go Ouroboros or Disigma. They have a giant backrow? Shock Ruler. Hell, this thing laughs in Gorz' face because it'll just nom him before you continue your assault. Same for Tragoedia.

Just because it's not the do-all-end-all doesn't mean it's trash. It's not meta, but it's certainly Rekindling syndrome at the least =/

[Agro]

[quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1336448912' post='5934899']
This is a game ender, it's absolute OTK fuel ._.

And what else kills their whole field while damaging them for it that can be used in any given deck that this can?

No, your whole point, and the point of most people in this thread, is "BAWW I CAN'T MIND CONTROL IT IT SUCKS". Think outside the box, people.

Not everything is meta, and you can't always compare cards because they're similar in a certain aspect.

Comparing this and C39 is like comparing Maestroke to Tsukuyomi. It's completely illogical to do so, yet people insist on doing it anyways.

It's worth the 3 materials because it all depends on the situation. If they have something with more than 2800, why the hell WOULD you summon this? You wouldn't, you'd go Ouroboros or Disigma. They have a giant backrow? Shock Ruler. Hell, this thing laughs in Gorz' face because it'll just nom him before you continue your assault. Same for Tragoedia.

Just because it's not the do-all-end-all doesn't mean it's trash. It's not meta, but it's certainly Rekindling syndrome at the least =/
[/quote]You wouldn't summon it because there's no room in the extra deck to run it and Shark Drake in most if not all decks? You just said it was situational, and most situations can probably be handled by more versatile monsters.

Btw, I never said it was trash. Not sure where you got that from.

[Blake]

[quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1336449241' post='5934904']
You wouldn't summon it because there's no room in the extra deck to run it and Shark Drake in most if not all decks? You just said it was situational, and most situations can probably be handled by more versatile monsters.

Btw, I never said it was trash. Not sure where you got that from.
[/quote]
Out of all the 3 Material Rank 4s, this is the least situational. I listed situations where stuff is better on purpose ._.

I'm sure finding room for Raigeki isn't a problem. It's not like Quasar where it takes dedication to get it out, it just requires an extra Level 4.

You're implying it heavily. You refuse to see anywhere it's better than anything else, which would make it trash.

[Agro]

[quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1336449450' post='5934911']
You're implying it heavily. You refuse to see anywhere it's better than anything else, which would make it trash.
[/quote]You're assuming. You should stop that.