Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 [IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/4j5ag5.jpg[/IMG] Balanced Fusion support or broken OTK enabler? Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Without five headed dragon,chimeratech,and *Other cards that love the grave too much like judgment dragon or hornet* it becomes a balanced foolish burial genex undine with heroes thingamajic that does better for game than FGD,chimeratech and etc do without future fusion. I say switch places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Wait, this supports Fusions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 It's terrible fusion support that remains relevant simply because it's a foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Ban it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Someone actually argued that this should stay at Limited, even with Chaos Dragons becoming the major force they are now. I personally don't care what happens to it; the only Deck I run right now that uses it is Dragunitys, and they just basically tech FuFu + FHD to get Phalanx/Aklys into the Graveyard faster. If it gets banned, QQ for all the Chaos/Disaster users, if not, QQ for everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Now let us see what pojo is currently up to. (because I love looking at their F/L section) [quote]I wasn't talking about the metagame, Sport. I was talking about OP's list of what he thinks is wrong with the metagame. More specifically, I'm talking about how he just bans whole decks and playing styles (stalling, Final Countdown, Dragons (he killed REDMD for ****s sake, it's the only reason Dragons became relevant again)) because he believes that this is not how the game should be played.[/quote] So, Dragons are not good because this exist. Thank you very much for that tip. OT: I really think its hindering Fusion development in general, that's my main reason for wanting it gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarus Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Broken. I use it in Volcanic Heroes, but I'd rather have it gone to stop the Dragons + FF = gg crap going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 I'd prefer seeing REDMD being hit before this. FF helps many non-broken decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 [quote name='Wizarus' timestamp='1338495356' post='5949944'] Volcanic Heroes. [/quote] Tell me more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarus Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1338497912' post='5949974'] Tell me more. [/quote] [url="http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/283988-volcanic-heroes-v5/"]http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/283988-volcanic-heroes-v5/[/url] Basically, you use the Volcanic engine to rack up card advantage(or just destroy stuff), for Super Poly food. It also allows you reliably get Nova Master out. It loses to Inzektors if you can't draw Veiler/stop the Normal summon, and Chaos Dragons are a toss up, but it absolutely slaughters Rabbit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkel Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 The reason it should be banned has nothing to do with it being a broken OTK-enabler; in that case, I see FGD and Chimeratech as the problems. However, it's only used as a big Foolish Burial, giving it the same problems as Painful Choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 Five Headed, Overdragon, and maybe V-HERO Trinity all@0 -> This stays@1 OR This@0 HMMM.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkel Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1338516166' post='5950167'] Five Headed, Overdragon, and maybe V-HERO Trinity all@0 -> This stays@1 OR This@0 HMMM.... [/quote] Without those cards and the omni-heroes, this could probably be fine at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 i'd rather have this @0 than the fusions tbh, because imo i'd rather have the abuser gone than the abused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 [quote name='~Dark Soul~' timestamp='1338538617' post='5950282'] i'd rather have this @0 than the fusions tbh, because imo i'd rather have the abuser gone than the abused [/quote] Agreed plus if this is banned it atleast means we have one space to change for another card and dragons become very water-ed down so that they can be played fairly with none of this REDM, Light Pluse, Dark Flare, Black Luster and Chaos Sorc Spazm's everywhere just in the first turn when a play just draws it. And to be said Hero's could just replace it if banned for something like a second Super Poly or such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 [quote name='kingdom Neos' timestamp='1338539059' post='5950283'] Agreed plus if this is banned it atleast means we have one space to change for another card and dragons become very water-ed down so that they can be played fairly with none of this REDM, Light Pluse, Dark Flare, Black Luster and Chaos Sorc Spazm's everywhere just in the first turn when a play just draws it. And to be said Hero's could just replace it if banned for something like a second Super Poly or such. [/quote] although if previous experience is factored in, i think Konami will keep @1 and either hit REDMD or LPD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 If you have the choice between banning 5 fusions or this ONE card, you should ban the single card. It's not that tough to figure out. Of course, I should also point out Konami's reasoning when making decisions here and note the banning FuFu still does not solve the very important issue of hitting Chaos Dragons. With that in mind, it would not surprise me if FuFu survives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1338567382' post='5950363'] If you have the choice between banning 5 fusions or this ONE card, you should ban the single card. It's not that tough to figure out. Of course, I should also point out Konami's reasoning when making decisions here and note the banning FuFu still does not solve the very important issue of hitting Chaos Dragons. With that in mind, it would not surprise me if FuFu survives. [/quote] All i heard was "Who cares about making the game better,let's just keep the banlist short and sweet regardless of how much better the game is with this one card than it is with these 5". You're really ignoring making the game better for no reason other than keeping the list short? Really? .-. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1338575215' post='5950411'] All i heard was "Who cares about making the game better,let's just keep the banlist short and sweet regardless of how much better the game is with this one card than it is with these 5". You're really ignoring making the game better for no reason other than keeping the list short? Really? .-. [/quote]Yes. Because, as I said, I'm pointing out what will be done FROM KONAMI'S PERSPECTIVE. FuFu should be banned, yes, but we all read Tewart's articles, I'm simply following his logic and making a statement about it. Don't get pissy at me for pointing it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=1054483 [quote name='MikeApollo'] I called him a scrub because he's a moron as is anyone that thinks REDM or FF is the problem with Chaos Dragon [/quote] I'm glad Konami gets their player base input from pojo. Edit: Oh, look, he deleted all of his post. Good thing I saved his reasoning behind his opinion. [quote name='MikeApollo']first and foremost it's a -1 to even summon second it has no way of protecting itself from cards such as Dark Hole or Compulsory Evacuation Device and if its target is in the graveyard you try to summ it there is a good chance that it will get DD Crow'd or someone will drop an Effect Veiler on it the moment that it hits the field So chances are next turn in a heavy XYz format that one single REDM is going to die but Syncro's have outs to REDM as well Brio can bouce it back to hand Scrap Dragon can pop a card on your field and blow up REDM there are tons of other outs but you butt hurt kids refuse to see them or use them ya just JUMP ON DA BANDWAGON! WOOH ITS OP YEAH! LIMMIT IT! train i really enjoy reading these list some of them have intelligence in there limmits and simi's but a limmit on a card that isnt doing anything to the meta is just dumb and so is anyone that thinks that REDM or FF is the problem with Chaos Dragons[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 My favourite is when pojo says BLS is not a broken card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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