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Number 22: Fran Ken (MANGA)


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[quote]2 [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Level"]Level[/url] 8 [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Monster_Card"]monsters[/url]
This card cannot be [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Destroyed_by_battle"]destroyed by battle[/url] except with another "[url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Number"]Number[/url]" monster. Once per [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Turn"]turn[/url], during either player's turn: You can [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Discard"]discard[/url] 1 card and [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Detach"]detach[/url] 1 [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Xyz_Material"]Xyz Material[/url] from this card; [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Negate"]negate[/url] the effects of all [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Face-up"]face-up[/url] cards your opponent currently [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Control"]controls[/url]. This card must battle the turn you [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Activate"]activate[/url] this effect, if able. This card cannot [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Target"]target[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_female_cards"]female[/url] monsters for [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Attack"]attacks[/url].[/quote]
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[quote name='Johnny Raptor' timestamp='1339154952' post='5953861']
It's a real gentleman, trollololo.

But aside from that, I wouldn't bet on this thing coming out generic (I'm looking at YOU Number 8 ).

Sooooo...

inb42Level8Zombies
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2 level 8 Zombies? HELL NO! there's only 6 of them in the game and hardly any of them are used.

[quote name='Darkplant - VENOM' timestamp='1339151095' post='5953837']
Troll card.

Will probably be a vanilla in OCG, calling it now.
[/quote]
i honestly agree, this thing shouldn't outclass NGEPD

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[quote name='~Dark Soul~' timestamp='1339155503' post='5953864']
2 level 8 Zombies? HELL NO! there's only 6 of them in the game and hardly any of them are used.
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You think Konami cares? They'll just put it like that and then make some kind of FIRE Zombie archetype in a pack to support summoning it in the first place anyway. Or something like that anyway... =p

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[quote name='Johnny Raptor' timestamp='1339155977' post='5953867']
You think Konami cares? They'll just put it like that and then make some kind of FIRE Zombie archetype in a pack to support summoning it in the first place anyway. Or something like that anyway... =p
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I honestly doubt Konami will make it use 2 level 8 Zombies when its far easier for them to nerf its effect. and even [i]by some chance[/i] they did put that type restriction, they might as well release Koron-Chan's monsters and release them as Zombies

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[quote name='Darkplant - VENOM' timestamp='1339160681' post='5953887']
Of course people want to talk about it. The fate of Dark Worlds depends on it.
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[IMG]http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab294/ShamefulDragon/no-meme-rage-face.jpg[/IMG]
OT: Overhyped, overdiscussed. And yes, Konami will nerf this if it ever comes out.
NOW EVERYBODY SHUT UP ABOUT THIS CARD.

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[quote name='DJVD' timestamp='1339161529' post='5953892']
NOW EVERYBODY SHUT UP ABOUT THIS CARD.
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[img]http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab294/ShamefulDragon/no-meme-rage-face.jpg[/img]

It's like NGEPD. Konami will release it with some different effect. Reanimator effect please, Konami. It'll be 2 DARK Level 8 Monsters, maybe 3, or atleast my guess. Attack will be nerfed, 4.5k is way too much, especially when the NGEPD has that much, and it takes 3 Monsters.

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i can defo see this being 2 level 8 DARKs, i think it'll still have 4500 ATK (because i can't remember the last time an IRL card had a different effect to its anime/manga counterpart, i know there were a couple though), and it'll either have a totally nerfed or different effect or no effect at all.
i doubt it'll need more materials than its manga counterpart though, and [u][i]if [/i][/u]they need to, they'll blame the manga writers.

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Oh look, our weekly Fran Ken thread.

And what have we learnt from it this week?

It's Defence is 1000....

...that is new information right?

Can't see a total overhaul on its effect, just a shedload of added restrictions about attacking most likely. Like attack is halved when Xyz material less or something.

Going to be 3-4 months until this is released at all so... do we really need 12-16 threads on it in the meantime? Please?

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[quote name='Јordan' timestamp='1339161827' post='5953895']
[img]http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab294/ShamefulDragon/no-meme-rage-face.jpg[/img]

It's like NGEPD. Konami will release it with some different effect. Reanimator effect please, Konami. It'll be 2 DARK Level 8 Monsters, maybe 3, or atleast my guess. Attack will be nerfed, 4.5k is way too much, especially when the NGEPD has that much, and it takes 3 Monsters.
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[IMG]http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq306/stompzilla/Geek%20stuff/unamused.jpg[/IMG]
WE ALREADY KNOW THAT OVER THE LAST 9000+ THREADS ABOUT THIS.

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[quote name='Majestic Star Bahamut' timestamp='1339165963' post='5953926']
I'm Gagaga Girl,
From duel monsters world.
A life in anime,
make preteen boys gape.
Love my big blonde hair,
overlay me anywhere.
Imagination,
Xyz sensation!

:lol:
[/quote]DMG Did that first [img]http://yugiohnetwork.com/images/emoticons/16.gif[/img]

OT: The card design is just a lulz. And its an easy 4500 beater. Nice

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What I find funny about this card is that it totally throws the Rank-to-ATK/DEF curve for a loop.
As opposed to the Level-to-ATK/DEF curve, which has the average LV1 in between 0-500 ATK, the average LV2 from 500-900, LV3 from 900-1300, and so on and so forth, the Rank-to ATK/DEF curve is at a lesser angle, with the Ranks 4-8 being squished together in the 2000s.
A friend of mine theorized that they did this because Konami didn't want to break the Rule of 3000 unless they absolutely had to, but then #22 came along, and so far, it seems to be defying all conventions of what we have come to expect from an Xyz Monster's stats.
Which is why I think we find it so fascinating.
It screws the rules.

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[quote name='DJVD' timestamp='1339161529' post='5953892']
[IMG]http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab294/ShamefulDragon/no-meme-rage-face.jpg[/IMG]
OT: Overhyped, overdiscussed. And yes, Konami will nerf this if it ever comes out.
NOW EVERYBODY SHUT UP ABOUT THIS CARD.
[/quote]

>Makes some of the dumbest comments, if not the dumbest, in the whole of TCG.
>Tells other people to shut up.

Right...



OT: Dear Konami,

Release this with a restriction of the materials being Dark monsters, and remove the last clause because we all know a true gentleman isn't afraid to whollup a woman with 4.5k force.

Yours sincerely,

A Dark World fanboy

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[quote name='TheFinalFan' timestamp='1339170713' post='5953964']
What I find funny about this card is that it totally throws the Rank-to-ATK/DEF curve for a loop.
As opposed to the Level-to-ATK/DEF curve, which has the average LV1 in between 0-500 ATK, the average LV2 from 500-900, LV3 from 900-1300, and so on and so forth, the Rank-to ATK/DEF curve is at a lesser angle, with the Ranks 4-8 being squished together in the 2000s.
A friend of mine theorized that they did this because Konami didn't want to break the Rule of 3000 unless they absolutely had to, but then #22 came along, and so far, it seems to be defying all conventions of what we have come to expect from an Xyz Monster's stats.
Which is why I think we find it so fascinating.
It screws the rules.
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I actually expected all the Xyz to have stats far higher than the average of monsters with the same level as their rank, with stuff like Utopia and Leviathan Dragon being the norm, and not like the later released Emeral or Dyson Sphere, who probably required 2 monsters of the same ATK as the final result to summon them.

OT: I suppose they will give it a lot of restrictions and negative effects, that will make it only usable in Skill Drain with a couple Barbaros. They shouldn't make numbers non-generic, and they haven't released one that has different ATK from the manga/anime or requires a different number of materials.

Life Stream Dragon being non-generic was very anticlimatic IMO.

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[quote name='Chris' timestamp='1339170884' post='5953966']
>Makes some of the dumbest comments, if not the dumbest, in the whole of TCG.
>Tells other people to shut up.

Right...



OT: Dear Konami,

Release this with a restriction of the materials being Dark monsters, and remove the last clause because we all know a true gentleman isn't afraid to whollup a woman with 4.5k force.

Yours sincerely,

A Dark World fanboy
[/quote]
>thinks everything I say is serious when you should remember what I do by looking at the face in my profile picture.
>Is hypocritical, anyway.

And yes, I'm serious this time.

OT: Fran Ken is a f***ing b****. When it gets released, I'm gonna laugh at all of you for getting, what will most likely then be, only a binder material card.

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[quote name='-Berserker-' timestamp='1339192410' post='5954099']
OT: I suppose they will give it a lot of restrictions and negative effects, that will make it only usable in Skill Drain with a couple Barbaros. They shouldn't make numbers non-generic, and they haven't released one that has different ATK from the manga/anime [b]or requires a different number of materials.[/b]
[/quote]

Manga Number 91 required 5 Level 4s to summon, while the real thing only needs 3.

This thing will probably end up as non-generic, though probably not archetype specific like Number 8.

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[quote name='-Berserker-' timestamp='1339192410' post='5954099']
They shouldn't make numbers non-generic...[/quote]

[url=http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Number_8:_Heraldry_King_Genome_Heriter?image=Number8HeraldryKingGenomeHeriter-ABYR-JP-OP-png][img]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120519142256/yugioh/images/thumb/4/4a/Number8HeraldryKingGenomeHeriter-ABYR-JP-OP.png/244px-Number8HeraldryKingGenomeHeriter-ABYR-JP-OP.png[/img][/url]

Oh yes, they should.

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