CommanderVolt Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 [img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110904222536/yugioh/images/thumb/6/61/RedDragonArchfiendTU06-EN-R-UE.jpg/300px-RedDragonArchfiendTU06-EN-R-UE.jpg[/img] Discuss (and Red Nova to a lesser extent) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 Still one of my favorite Synchros. I'm not really sure why he doesn't see as much play, but maybe he'll start to see more play in this upcoming format, with Geargias and things along those lines being common sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoRWBY65 Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 I tried to play this at my locals, and my opponent used Compulsory Evacuation Device Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name='GalaxyEyes10' timestamp='1346813760' post='6019427'] I tried to play this at my locals, and my opponent used Compulsory Evacuation Device [/quote] I tried to play Zenmaines at my locals, and my opponent used Compulsory Evacuation Device Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 I can't remember the situation that I did this, but my opponent one time attacked with this to destroy Marshmallon, I negated its attack, and he nuked his own field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 Highly outclassed by Starfag and Crimson Blader. Granted, it's 3000 ATK is nothing to sneeze at, but your opponent not being able to Special Summon anything next turn, or being able to negate a Heavy Storm, seems like a better trade-off than 3000 ATK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasemeow Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name='Black Scar' timestamp='1346799849' post='6019314'] [img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110904222536/yugioh/images/thumb/6/61/RedDragonArchfiendTU06-EN-R-UE.jpg/300px-RedDragonArchfiendTU06-EN-R-UE.jpg[/img] Discuss (and Red Nova to a lesser extent) [/quote] I for one like this card. It barely has use nowadays, but it is a great card. On a unrelated note, i love your siggy. Monster girl quest c: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name='Devil's Advocate' timestamp='1346814268' post='6019433'] Highly outclassed by Starfag and Crimson Blader. Granted, it's 3000 ATK is nothing to sneeze at, but your opponent not being able to Special Summon anything next turn, or being able to negate a Heavy Storm, seems like a better trade-off than 3000 ATK. [/quote] Blader <<< Scrap Dragon Dat 3000 gets over pretty much anything now, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 I guess using this is slightly comparable to the people who choose Acid Golem over Revise Dragon. It's based on preference. Though Scrap Dragon only has 200 less ATK and a destruction ability to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1346817920' post='6019455'] I guess using this is slightly comparable to the people who choose Acid Golem over Revise Dragon. It's based on preference. [/quote] ... People use Golem OVER Leviathan? I've only seen Golem in addition to Leviathan, sans, like, Skill Drain and a couple other things, mostly silly stuff like Golem Swap. Leviathan is undeniably the better one in that situation. It's a 2500 beater with no drawback or a no-direct-attack 3000 that gets used once every blue moon. Golem's 3000, but... in most places, it bites you in the ass more than it helps, except in the late game, where Leviathan is good pretty much the whole game. Also Scrap >= Stardust > Blader > Colossal > Thought Ruler >= RDA In the generic sense, of course. Certain decks can switch this order around a bit, as well as have their own specific level 8s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 In most every deck I have, I use Acid Golem over Levi, or both. Acid Golem looks bad on paper with its effect, but it has won me so many games. The opponent can't bounce back usually if you play Golem and have any monsters at all to back it up, and if they have removal then it's going to die and not have any drawback. The only time it's going to be a bad idea to summon it is if they have a monster that can't be destroyed by battle, or they have a lot of set/able monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 Why would you ever play it over Levi? Levi's much more versatile than Acid Golem and doesn't restrict other plays. At that, the instant detach lets you play a lot faster in some decks. Acid Golem is definitely good, but it's a time bomb. Unless you're playing with a deck that can remove 30 itself, it's not that hard for the opponent to play around your Golem, at all. You get 2 turns of beatstick in exchange for what? Hopefully winning during that time? It's a card that's made for a push. If you're summoning it without set up already on the field, you're asking for a game loss, and a 2500 beater does the same job just fine more often than not. Only times it wouldn't do it as well are vs. Grapha, Hyperion, Monarchs, Utopia, Pearl, Tiras, Stardust, or Shining, unless I'm forgetting something. It's 50/50 with Monarchs, Shining laughs at 3000, Grapha is often 3000 and is recurring, Utopia's the same either way, leaving Pearl, Tiras, Stardust, and Hyperion to be bothered by it at all. Against the Chump Blockers, Leviathan is even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 Well, I also usually play slow, stun-like decks, so it's really my play style that dictates its uses over Levi. I honestly have only thought to himself "I'd rather have Levi right now" once or twice. Acid Golem gets over pretty much anything that most of my other cards don't, and that's the point of using it. If you want to play with general use, yeah, use Levi, but that's a choice of versatility over raw power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderVolt Posted September 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name='Hasemeow' timestamp='1346817106' post='6019449'] I for one like this card. It barely has use nowadays, but it is a great card. On a unrelated note, i love your siggy. [b]Monster girl quest c[/b]: [/quote] O_O SOMEONE KNOWS OT: While the 3000 ATK is indeed nothing to scoff at, i do like how it cleanly disposes of Spirit Reaper and the like, while also picking apart Zenmaines (with an extra boost to finish it of course.) It's ashame extra-deck space will be so cramped this may not be ran over the other aforementioned Level 8 Synchros I still love nuking my own critters to this day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasemeow Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name='Black Scar' timestamp='1346820147' post='6019472'] O_O SOMEONE KNOWS OT: While the 3000 ATK is indeed nothing to scoff at, i do like how it cleanly disposes of Spirit Reaper and the like, while also picking apart Zenmaines (with an extra boost to finish it of course.) It's ashame extra-deck space will be so cramped this may not be ran over the other aforementioned Level 8 Synchros I still love nuking my own critters to this day. [/quote] That's pretty much red dragon's fine point in a nut shell. Aside from the obvious 3k beat stick, i appreciate the attack a def, kill all def... no matter how unlikely it is to be used. Also, my thoughts exactly xD I didn't think anyone else here knew MGQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderVolt Posted September 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name='Hasemeow' timestamp='1346821515' post='6019476'] That's pretty much red dragon's fine point in a nut shell. Aside from the obvious 3k beat stick, i appreciate the attack a def, kill all def... no matter how unlikely it is to be used. Also, my thoughts exactly xD I didn't think anyone else here knew MGQ [/quote] Yes indeed, the fine points in a nutshell. Shame, when Xyz were more prominent Crimson Blader was less favorable, but now if their making a comeback that slot will return in his favor... but the TCG doesnt have Blader yet. ...i think. And... i've beat both game 1 and 2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 People are saying that 3k is great and gets over everything which is why this card is good. My question is what cards can RDA get over that Scrap Dragon also can't that are being used this format? I can't actually think of anything. I personally don't find use at all for RDA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name='Saberzauls' timestamp='1346824529' post='6019491'] People are saying that 3k is great and gets over everything which is why this card is good. My question is what cards can RDA get over that Scrap Dragon also can't that are being used this format? I can't actually think of anything. I personally don't find use at all for RDA. [/quote] I quite personally don't see a point to use it unless you have a lot of empty space in your Extra Deck, or can make a lot of level 8's. I was just saying earlier that if you do use it, it's a personal choice of power. Or maybe you just really, really hate stall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 My Rekindling Synchro Deck only really goes for this over other Level 8 Synchros when: A ) My opponent has 2+ Defense Position monsters and/or one or more of those is face-down. (it's rare) B ) I can, and decide, to go for Red Nova. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canopy Star - Eon Sphere Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 I find it strange how in one of my games, the defense nuke effect triggers before the monster is sent to the grave. This does give a benefit in that it stops most searchers, but honestly it gets destroyed before it even launches an attack. Stardust is just a safer option that sticks around longer generally, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoRWBY65 Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 A while ago, I showed my extra deck to a friend who hadn't played in a while, and he said that this card was the most balanced card in my extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 Scrap Dragon does cost you cards to use. After a while you can't just use him willy-nilly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name='Expelsword - 黎明' timestamp='1346850760' post='6019540'] Scrap Dragon does cost you cards to use. After a while you can't just use him willy-nilly. [/quote] Sometimes, the cost is negligible, though. Just set a Spell/Trap that you are never going to use because you already gained massive advantage and blow up their last line of defense. Oh hooray I've wiped out your D-Prison, now I'm free to attack you for game. Scrap Dragon > Blader = Stardust > Red Dragon > All the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 [quote name='Devil's Advocate' timestamp='1346863043' post='6019586'] Scrap Dragon > Blader = Stardust > Red Dragon > All the others. [/quote] wut, no. That's incredibly wrong. Try this: [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1346818281' post='6019458'] Scrap >= Stardust > Blader > Colossal > Thought Ruler >= RDA [/quote] I don't see how the hell you could think Blader is better than Stardust, when Blader is somewhat situational, yet you can sit on a Stardust with only a little support for whole games. Stardust is as amazing as ever. RDA is inferior to Colossal, because recurring if it DOES get killed and likely to hit the same 3000 anyways. EDIT: Not to mention Thought Ruler is at the very least on par with RDA, given how it can laugh at Compulsory, Forbidden Items, and the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 Thought Ruler is definitely better than Red Dragon Archfiend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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